Would You Hire a Vocal Atheist?
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eaglewonj
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Originally Posted by watson3
Sounds kind of like you want to sale us something..
Yeah, but he has a point. You can trust god or Allah or whatever you call the higher being....but can you trust the person/persons who physically wrote the book? Not really.... Any fool can write a book. Is the bible the word of god? Maybe....but did God write it? Nope, disciples and followers did....so... it isn't do I believe the word of God, it's do i believe the schmuck who was on scribe duty that day...
Sounds kind of like you want to sale us something..
Yeah, but he has a point. You can trust god or Allah or whatever you call the higher being....but can you trust the person/persons who physically wrote the book? Not really.... Any fool can write a book. Is the bible the word of god? Maybe....but did God write it? Nope, disciples and followers did....so... it isn't do I believe the word of God, it's do i believe the schmuck who was on scribe duty that day...
shogun323
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Originally Posted by eaglewonj
Yeah, but he has a point. You can trust god or Allah or whatever you call the higher being....but can you trust the person/persons who physically wrote the book? Not really.... Any fool can write a book. Is the bible the word of god? Maybe....but did God write it? Nope, disciples and followers did....so... it isn't do I believe the word of God, it's do i believe the schmuck who was on scribe duty that day...
In that case you should never read a biography again.
Yeah, but he has a point. You can trust god or Allah or whatever you call the higher being....but can you trust the person/persons who physically wrote the book? Not really.... Any fool can write a book. Is the bible the word of god? Maybe....but did God write it? Nope, disciples and followers did....so... it isn't do I believe the word of God, it's do i believe the schmuck who was on scribe duty that day...
In that case you should never read a biography again.
eaglewonj
Member
Originally Posted by shogun323
In that case you should never read a biography again.
I usually don't, but yes the principle still holds, what is written in the biography is biased by the author's intent or feelings. This holds true for virtually any book, paper, or website on anything.
In that case you should never read a biography again.
I usually don't, but yes the principle still holds, what is written in the biography is biased by the author's intent or feelings. This holds true for virtually any book, paper, or website on anything.
agent707
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Originally Posted by Yeffre Kix
Most of the people I went to church with were intolerant of other beliefs.
-Like the way a person chooses to worship, or the god they pray to.
-Personal choices that hurt no one. Like homosexuality because you don't feel the same way they do.
-How about organization against gambling, when the have "bingo nights" themselves. The bottom line with that they don't want people using discretionary income to gamble rather than paying their tyth to the church.
Christians believe the bible is the only true religious book and "god" is the only true deity. All other religious beliefs are wrong and going to hell.
Sorry but other religions have been around far longer and have many more beleivers.
Muslims have had their organized religion far longer than Christians.
You can go back even farther to buddhists and other Asian religions.
What makes your story better than theirs? All religions preach love and understanding but their followers pervert the teachings to discriminate against others. Bottom line is the Bible, the Koran, any other Religious beliefs were written by men and their prejudice is reflected in the writings.
Obvoiusly, you are Very uneducated in Christianity... and religion in general.
Either you just didn't pay attention, or you had ver poor teachers at your church. This doesn't give you any excuse though to spout off on things you know little of.
For example:
-Personal choices that hurt no one. Like homosexuality because you don't feel the same way they do.
There is a story in the old testament about a city Sodom and Gomorrah. You should read it. The jist of it goes like this.
It was "mans" will that the city be spared, but it was "Gods" will to destroy it, because the people were so "wicked" in their ways.
The way "we" feel about homosexuality has nothing to do with why we are so strong voiced in the matter. It is how God feels about it. AND we know what is going to happen to people who carry on as such.
Anyway, it would do you a world of good to learn a bit more. You may see things a little differently than you do now. Which is in my opinion "very" distorted.
Have a nice day.
Most of the people I went to church with were intolerant of other beliefs.
-Like the way a person chooses to worship, or the god they pray to.
-Personal choices that hurt no one. Like homosexuality because you don't feel the same way they do.
-How about organization against gambling, when the have "bingo nights" themselves. The bottom line with that they don't want people using discretionary income to gamble rather than paying their tyth to the church.
Christians believe the bible is the only true religious book and "god" is the only true deity. All other religious beliefs are wrong and going to hell.
Sorry but other religions have been around far longer and have many more beleivers.
Muslims have had their organized religion far longer than Christians.
You can go back even farther to buddhists and other Asian religions.
What makes your story better than theirs? All religions preach love and understanding but their followers pervert the teachings to discriminate against others. Bottom line is the Bible, the Koran, any other Religious beliefs were written by men and their prejudice is reflected in the writings.
Obvoiusly, you are Very uneducated in Christianity... and religion in general.
Either you just didn't pay attention, or you had ver poor teachers at your church. This doesn't give you any excuse though to spout off on things you know little of.
For example:
-Personal choices that hurt no one. Like homosexuality because you don't feel the same way they do.
There is a story in the old testament about a city Sodom and Gomorrah. You should read it. The jist of it goes like this.
It was "mans" will that the city be spared, but it was "Gods" will to destroy it, because the people were so "wicked" in their ways.
The way "we" feel about homosexuality has nothing to do with why we are so strong voiced in the matter. It is how God feels about it. AND we know what is going to happen to people who carry on as such.
Anyway, it would do you a world of good to learn a bit more. You may see things a little differently than you do now. Which is in my opinion "very" distorted.
Have a nice day.
windmill
Member
Absolutely not. And I wouldn't limit it to atheists. Any person who can't keep their faith to themselves or, at the least, limit it to church-time, won't be found anywhere near me. I believe in freedom of and freedom FROM religion.
A wise man once said: "Those who are happy to share their religious views with you usually get mad when you share yours with them."
A wise man once said: "Those who are happy to share their religious views with you usually get mad when you share yours with them."
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yeffre kix
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Originally Posted by Agent707
There is a story in the old testament about a city Sodom and Gomorrah. You should read it. The jist of it goes like this.
It was "mans" will that the city be spared, but it was "Gods" will to destroy it, because the people were so "wicked" in their ways.
The way "we" feel about homosexuality has nothing to do with why we are so strong voiced in the matter. It is how God feels about it. AND we know what is going to happen to people who carry on as such.
Anyway, it would do you a world of good to learn a bit more. You may see things a little differently than you do now. Which is in my opinion "very" distorted.
Have a nice day.
Thank you for proving my point. You are quoting a book written by a man
to proove your point about how wrong homosexuality is. It's nothing but a religous pamphlet from you particular religion.
Someones sexual preference should be a personal matter, not the churches, or the government. Why would homosexuality make a person "wicked"? They aren't hurting anyone with their private sexual practice in their own home. I've had good friends that are homosexual and never felt the need to condem them for it. They're just good people to me, not homosexual people.
There is a story in the old testament about a city Sodom and Gomorrah. You should read it. The jist of it goes like this.
It was "mans" will that the city be spared, but it was "Gods" will to destroy it, because the people were so "wicked" in their ways.
The way "we" feel about homosexuality has nothing to do with why we are so strong voiced in the matter. It is how God feels about it. AND we know what is going to happen to people who carry on as such.
Anyway, it would do you a world of good to learn a bit more. You may see things a little differently than you do now. Which is in my opinion "very" distorted.
Have a nice day.
Thank you for proving my point. You are quoting a book written by a man
to proove your point about how wrong homosexuality is. It's nothing but a religous pamphlet from you particular religion.
Someones sexual preference should be a personal matter, not the churches, or the government. Why would homosexuality make a person "wicked"? They aren't hurting anyone with their private sexual practice in their own home. I've had good friends that are homosexual and never felt the need to condem them for it. They're just good people to me, not homosexual people.
garnet13aj
Active Member
Personal choices that hurt no one. Like homosexuality because you don't feel the same way they do.
Can you explain this more. As I understand it you are saying that homosexuality is a choice. This is incorrect it is just somthing that "happens" to people. I don't think straight people (including myself) ever sit down and say, "today is the day when I will decide whether or not I'm going to be straight or gay...okay, I've decided! I'm going to be straight." It's the same w/gay people, it's just the way you are.
Can you explain this more. As I understand it you are saying that homosexuality is a choice. This is incorrect it is just somthing that "happens" to people. I don't think straight people (including myself) ever sit down and say, "today is the day when I will decide whether or not I'm going to be straight or gay...okay, I've decided! I'm going to be straight." It's the same w/gay people, it's just the way you are.
garnet13aj
Active Member
Yes, people that have traumatic childhood experience are sometimes also gay. This may or may not be related (I really don't know so I'm not going to venture a guess). But seriously, can anyone honestly tell me they sat down and made a choice about their sexuality. If you didn't what makes you think other people did?
Also, not everyone, or even most, gay people were molested as children.
Also, not everyone, or even most, gay people were molested as children.
reefreak29
Active Member
Originally Posted by Yeffre Kix
Why do you feel the need to "witness" aka bore them to death with superstitious nonsense.
I was raised in the southern baptist church and found through most of my childhood and young adult life that their teachings didn't make any sense. Seems like and excuse to hate people who have different beliefs than your self.
Everyone has the right to believe whatever they wish and the workplace is not a environment for religious discussion.
wait a sec the original post says would u hire a VOCAL athiest
and i said i would obviously if they were vocal about it i could be to
i would not shove it down therre thruoght i would be very polite about it
I was raised in the southern baptist church and found through most of my childhood and young adult life that their teachings didn't make any sense. Seems like and excuse to hate people who have different beliefs than your self.
Everyone has the right to believe whatever they wish and the workplace is not a environment for religious discussion.
wait a sec the original post says would u hire a VOCAL athiest
and i said i would obviously if they were vocal about it i could be to
i would not shove it down therre thruoght i would be very polite about it
phixer
Active Member
Originally Posted by garnet13aj
Can you explain this more. As I understand it you are saying that homosexuality is a choice. This is incorrect it is just somthing that "happens" to people. I don't think straight people (including myself) ever sit down and say, "today is the day when I will decide whether or not I'm going to be straight or gay...okay, I've decided! I'm going to be straight." It's the same w/gay people, it's just the way you are.
Why does this phenomenon only happen in Humans?
Can you explain this more. As I understand it you are saying that homosexuality is a choice. This is incorrect it is just somthing that "happens" to people. I don't think straight people (including myself) ever sit down and say, "today is the day when I will decide whether or not I'm going to be straight or gay...okay, I've decided! I'm going to be straight." It's the same w/gay people, it's just the way you are.
Why does this phenomenon only happen in Humans?
viper_930
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I've got two male flowerhorns in a 350 gallon tank that always swim side by side. The female swims by herself. :thinking: True story. Or maybe I've mistaken their genders...
I don't think being homosexual is any more of a choice than choosing a certain food to be your favorite. It just so happens the food turns out to be your favorite, and it's not exactly a voluntary choice to have a different favorite food.
I've never heard a homosexual person say they chose to be gay, so I trust their opinion.
I didn't bother to read all 7 pages, so hopefully I didn't overlap on anything.
I don't think being homosexual is any more of a choice than choosing a certain food to be your favorite. It just so happens the food turns out to be your favorite, and it's not exactly a voluntary choice to have a different favorite food.
I've never heard a homosexual person say they chose to be gay, so I trust their opinion.
I didn't bother to read all 7 pages, so hopefully I didn't overlap on anything.