reefreak29
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anyone see this movie . If so what are your thuoghts on it.
Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed
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stdreb27
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Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2584213
anyone see this movie . If so what are your thuoghts on it.
No, but I've seen some utube clips.
I think it is funny, the Hawkins accepts that some superior alien life form could have come down to earth and starting this whole thing. But it couldn't have been a diety?
If you think about it, judeo-christian's God, is just an omnipresent, omnipotent alien life form whom we worship. After all accepting the biblical description of God, he isn't from earth (so he is an alien) and he created the earth (so he is superior) he is a being (moses saw him). So you know got would fit that description but oh no we can't call it like we see it...
http:///forum/post/2584213
anyone see this movie . If so what are your thuoghts on it.
No, but I've seen some utube clips.
I think it is funny, the Hawkins accepts that some superior alien life form could have come down to earth and starting this whole thing. But it couldn't have been a diety?
If you think about it, judeo-christian's God, is just an omnipresent, omnipotent alien life form whom we worship. After all accepting the biblical description of God, he isn't from earth (so he is an alien) and he created the earth (so he is superior) he is a being (moses saw him). So you know got would fit that description but oh no we can't call it like we see it...
geridoc
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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2584385
No, but I've seen some utube clips.
I think it is funny, the Hawkins accepts that some superior alien life form could have come down to earth and starting this whole thing. But it couldn't have been a diety?
If you think about it, judeo-christian's God, is just an omnipresent, omnipotent alien life form whom we worship. After all accepting the biblical description of God, he isn't from earth (so he is an alien) and he created the earth (so he is superior) he is a being (moses saw him). So you know got would fit that description but oh no we can't call it like we see it...
The u-tube clip is out of context. Hawkins says that in response to a question of whether he could think of any way that an outside being could have placed life on earth. His response is tongue-in-cheek - aliens.
http:///forum/post/2584385
No, but I've seen some utube clips.
I think it is funny, the Hawkins accepts that some superior alien life form could have come down to earth and starting this whole thing. But it couldn't have been a diety?
If you think about it, judeo-christian's God, is just an omnipresent, omnipotent alien life form whom we worship. After all accepting the biblical description of God, he isn't from earth (so he is an alien) and he created the earth (so he is superior) he is a being (moses saw him). So you know got would fit that description but oh no we can't call it like we see it...
The u-tube clip is out of context. Hawkins says that in response to a question of whether he could think of any way that an outside being could have placed life on earth. His response is tongue-in-cheek - aliens.
reefreak29
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Im not really interested in debating whats the truth. the whole thing is being able to teach both sides , creation and evolution in a scientific matter in the classroom
socal57che
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We're considering seeing it today so I did some resaerch to see if it was appropriate for our 9yr old.
Anyway, I ran across this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHbdM...eature=related
Watch it 'til the end where he talks about his new book.
Anyway, I ran across this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHbdM...eature=related
Watch it 'til the end where he talks about his new book.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2584455
Im not really interested in debating whats the truth. the whole thing is being able to teach both sides , creation and evolution in a scientific matter in the classroom
I see no reason why one unproven theory should be taught over another.
http:///forum/post/2584455
Im not really interested in debating whats the truth. the whole thing is being able to teach both sides , creation and evolution in a scientific matter in the classroom
I see no reason why one unproven theory should be taught over another.
socal57che
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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2584502
I see no reason why one unproven theory should be taught over another.
Right on, brother!
It's seems OK to push God out of the classroom, but don't try that with Chuck Darwin.
http:///forum/post/2584502
I see no reason why one unproven theory should be taught over another.
Right on, brother!
It's seems OK to push God out of the classroom, but don't try that with Chuck Darwin.
jmick
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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2584502
I see no reason why one unproven theory should be taught over another.
You guys feel free to believe the earth is only 6k years old, women were created from Adam's rib and please continue to peddle lies about fossil records...I'd prefer if my children were not taught this rubbish.
I'd rather my childern be taught that all living creatures must have had a parent (I think most people would agree that living creatures must come from living creatures). There is also a lot of fossil records, seems as though the deeper you go in rock layers the more simple life forms become. Read something recently about elephants over the past 150 years have evolved smaller tusks as a result of poaching and the effects that has had on breeding populations.
http:///forum/post/2584502
I see no reason why one unproven theory should be taught over another.
You guys feel free to believe the earth is only 6k years old, women were created from Adam's rib and please continue to peddle lies about fossil records...I'd prefer if my children were not taught this rubbish.
I'd rather my childern be taught that all living creatures must have had a parent (I think most people would agree that living creatures must come from living creatures). There is also a lot of fossil records, seems as though the deeper you go in rock layers the more simple life forms become. Read something recently about elephants over the past 150 years have evolved smaller tusks as a result of poaching and the effects that has had on breeding populations.
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2584546
You guys feel free to believe the earth is only 6k years old, women were created from Adam's rib and please continue to peddle lies about fossil records...
The Theory of Intelligent Design teaches exactly none of those things.
Originally Posted by Jmick
I'd rather my childern be taught that all living creatures must have had a parent (I think most people would agree that living creatures must come from living creatures).
Then you better come up with a better theory than Evolution to teach them, as the first life forms sprang from nothing according to that particular theory.
Originally Posted by Jmick
There is also a lot of fossil records, seems as though the deeper you go in rock layers the more simple life forms become. Read something recently about elephants over the past 150 years have evolved smaller tusks as a result of poaching and the effects that has had on breeding populations.
Adaptation is not macro evolution. Further, in the case of elephants, the fact that poachers shoot the elephnats with the larger tusks removes the genetic potential for offspring with large tusks. That's not even adaptation, it's simply genetics.
http:///forum/post/2584546
You guys feel free to believe the earth is only 6k years old, women were created from Adam's rib and please continue to peddle lies about fossil records...
The Theory of Intelligent Design teaches exactly none of those things.
Originally Posted by Jmick
I'd rather my childern be taught that all living creatures must have had a parent (I think most people would agree that living creatures must come from living creatures).
Then you better come up with a better theory than Evolution to teach them, as the first life forms sprang from nothing according to that particular theory.
Originally Posted by Jmick
There is also a lot of fossil records, seems as though the deeper you go in rock layers the more simple life forms become. Read something recently about elephants over the past 150 years have evolved smaller tusks as a result of poaching and the effects that has had on breeding populations.
Adaptation is not macro evolution. Further, in the case of elephants, the fact that poachers shoot the elephnats with the larger tusks removes the genetic potential for offspring with large tusks. That's not even adaptation, it's simply genetics.
jmick
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Well Journey, you had better write to the editors and explain to them that the articles are all wrong and the elephants haven't evolved at all. Although, you have to admit it does show natural selection in process and I have always thought natural selection was a component of evolution?
reefraff
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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2584546
You guys feel free to believe the earth is only 6k years old, women were created from Adam's rib and please continue to peddle lies about fossil records...I'd prefer if my children were not taught this rubbish.
I'd rather my childern be taught that all living creatures must have had a parent (I think most people would agree that living creatures must come from living creatures). There is also a lot of fossil records, seems as though the deeper you go in rock layers the more simple life forms become. Read something recently about elephants over the past 150 years have evolved smaller tusks as a result of poaching and the effects that has had on breeding populations.
I'd prefer ,my children were not taught any unproven theory as fact. I don't see whats wrong with saying here's how some people attempt to explain it here's how others do and just move on to more important things.
http:///forum/post/2584546
You guys feel free to believe the earth is only 6k years old, women were created from Adam's rib and please continue to peddle lies about fossil records...I'd prefer if my children were not taught this rubbish.
I'd rather my childern be taught that all living creatures must have had a parent (I think most people would agree that living creatures must come from living creatures). There is also a lot of fossil records, seems as though the deeper you go in rock layers the more simple life forms become. Read something recently about elephants over the past 150 years have evolved smaller tusks as a result of poaching and the effects that has had on breeding populations.
I'd prefer ,my children were not taught any unproven theory as fact. I don't see whats wrong with saying here's how some people attempt to explain it here's how others do and just move on to more important things.
jmick
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2584590
I'd prefer ,my children were not taught any unproven theory as fact. I don't see whats wrong with saying here's how some people attempt to explain it here's how others do and just move on to more important things.
I don't disagree with that. However, Intellient Design is nothing more then means to sneak religion into public schools.
http:///forum/post/2584590
I'd prefer ,my children were not taught any unproven theory as fact. I don't see whats wrong with saying here's how some people attempt to explain it here's how others do and just move on to more important things.
I don't disagree with that. However, Intellient Design is nothing more then means to sneak religion into public schools.
reefreak29
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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2584604
I don't disagree with that. However, Intellient Design is nothing more then means to sneak religion into public schools.
mabie we need more of that in are schools in fact when they used to pray every morning before class there were alot less shootings
http:///forum/post/2584604
I don't disagree with that. However, Intellient Design is nothing more then means to sneak religion into public schools.
mabie we need more of that in are schools in fact when they used to pray every morning before class there were alot less shootings
jmick
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Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2584687
mabie we need more of that in are schools in fact when they used to pray every morning before class there were alot less shootings
How typical of the right to use fear to push an agenda. I'm not sure what kind of public school you went to, but I don't remember praying or prayer time in my school? We used to say the pledge but we didn't pray.
http:///forum/post/2584687
mabie we need more of that in are schools in fact when they used to pray every morning before class there were alot less shootings
How typical of the right to use fear to push an agenda. I'm not sure what kind of public school you went to, but I don't remember praying or prayer time in my school? We used to say the pledge but we didn't pray.
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2584604
...However, Intellient Design is nothing more then means to sneak religion into public schools.
Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2584690
How typical of the right to use fear to push an agenda. ....
Obviously its not just the "Right" that uses fear to push their agenda.
http:///forum/post/2584604
...However, Intellient Design is nothing more then means to sneak religion into public schools.
Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2584690
How typical of the right to use fear to push an agenda. ....
Obviously its not just the "Right" that uses fear to push their agenda.
reefreak29
Active Member
Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2584690
How typical of the right to use fear to push an agenda. I'm not sure what kind of public school you went to, but I don't remember praying or prayer time in my school? We used to say the pledge but we didn't pray.
im pretty positive thats the lefts job. hence global warming, they use scare tactics to push every agenda . that just made me laugh
http:///forum/post/2584690
How typical of the right to use fear to push an agenda. I'm not sure what kind of public school you went to, but I don't remember praying or prayer time in my school? We used to say the pledge but we didn't pray.
im pretty positive thats the lefts job. hence global warming, they use scare tactics to push every agenda . that just made me laugh
oscardeuce
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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2584604
I don't disagree with that. However, Intellient Design is nothing more then means to sneak religion into public schools.
That's bad because....?
My religion teaches:
Not to murder
Not to steal
Not to commit adultery
Do not lie
Honor your father and mother
Ah, I see those are things liberals find offensive
Among other things. I think our schools need MORE of that.
Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2584702
im pretty positive thats the lefts job. hence global warming, they use scare tactics to push every agenda . that just made me laugh
Hey, Algore did something the Medieval Alchemists failed to do. Algore turned carbon in gold!
http:///forum/post/2584604
I don't disagree with that. However, Intellient Design is nothing more then means to sneak religion into public schools.
That's bad because....?
My religion teaches:
Not to murder
Not to steal
Not to commit adultery
Do not lie
Honor your father and mother
Ah, I see those are things liberals find offensive
Among other things. I think our schools need MORE of that.
Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2584702
im pretty positive thats the lefts job. hence global warming, they use scare tactics to push every agenda . that just made me laugh
Hey, Algore did something the Medieval Alchemists failed to do. Algore turned carbon in gold!
socal57che
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2584213
anyone see this movie . If so what are your thuoghts on it.
We decided to wait until it comes out on DVD. Not the stuff a 9yr old wants to watch. We had Baskin Robbins instead. My daughter's sunday scool class awards Baskin Robbins credit coupons.
She had accumulated $10 worth so she treated us to ice cream.
There aren't that many theaters showing it yet.
http:///forum/post/2584213
anyone see this movie . If so what are your thuoghts on it.
We decided to wait until it comes out on DVD. Not the stuff a 9yr old wants to watch. We had Baskin Robbins instead. My daughter's sunday scool class awards Baskin Robbins credit coupons.
There aren't that many theaters showing it yet.
socal57che
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Jmick;2584795 said: