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With all due respect to you my love (Lois) it seems this thread started out as something designed to tell people to QT new fish and or to find out what may have killed your fish. It then morphed into a thread on how to start up a QT. now let me get on my soap box. Starting up a QT is nothing...

Yes you are mistaken Quote: Originally Posted by Kiefers Maybe I'm wrong but I do believe I have read this on this form but if one takes sand out of an established tank and put into another or newer tank, won't you be killing off the bacteris in the newer tank and get an ammonia spike, along...

Quote: Originally Posted by Beth She just set this up today. I'd suggest letting it rest. Get the new test kits tomorrow, and take it from there. I would not add bulky pieces of shrimp that will basically rot away and stink. If something is needed, just a tad of very tiny pieces of fish food...

If you had a lot of organic material in the sand it would have broken down and feed nitrifying bacteria converting it. it would have not just remained as such and started braking down when you added the sand to the QT. I do believe Beth may have something when she referenced the filter pad. Was...

You need to have a definitive answer as to the state of your bio filtration not guesses. IMO add a definite organic (small piece of shrimp) let it rot and test. The goby seems to have out lasted whatever the cause of the death of the other fish so no need to rush the QT

Lois for the third time did you or did you not add any food or raw shrimp to the tank

Quote: Sand and rock are the primary source of bio- dinitrification not necessarily nitrification. That is accomplished were ever the nitrifying bacteria find the most opportunistic place to colonize. But Lois has other issues to address. If she is not getting any organic brake down why is she...

Lois first you need to understand that I may not be the most intelligent hobbyist on the site BUT I will never knowingly tell you to do something to harm your tank inhabitance. Now let’s start from the beginning. You set up a HT added saltwater and sand from your established tank. if that is...

are you adding anything into the tank to degrade Lois this is important

You used the sand from the established tank? Right. And you did not put a piece of shrimp is that correct Quote: Originally Posted by meowzer UPDATE Did a water test.....ammonia is .25 nitrites 0 nitrates 0 wierd...LOL....I guess the little bit of sand I put in cause a little ammonia...

Quote: Meowzer, I feel that you already know the answers to most of these questions, you are a very saavy aquarist with much education and experience, although it is different when it happens to you. I admire you very much because you put yourself on display sort of speak and opened your self...

Quote: Originally Posted by Cranberry We are talking about Ich here, Joe. Take a guess. Sorry I guess I did not understand that the phrase anything meant only ick. BTW are we even sure the culprit in Lois tank is in fact ick

Quote: Originally Posted by Cranberry It doesn't matter.... the hypo will kill anything that comes from the DT. Another blanket statement do you mean hypo will kill the ick parasite or do you mean as you stated anything detrimental to our fish transferred to a HT

Renee first things first please tell me you have fishnets on and a particle mask (sorry Greg I had to ask) now you know Renee I have very few moments of clarity. So perhaps when she said “hypo will kill ich on the fish and/or on the sand, or wherever it is” I should have known that that is NOT...

Obviously if we have killed the entire ick parasite there cannot be cross contamination. It is when we are transferring water from one tank to another and the parasites is still present that using the same pump can be detrimental

BTW Beth dear heart does this not remind you of the good old days Quote: Oh and can you guys please type a little lower over here. You're disturbing the other threads. i am trying but its hard typing while i am sitting on the floor

Quote: Originally Posted by Beth I think what you want to do to set up an emergency QT that doesn't require you to wait until a raw shrimp rots away in your tank before you use the tank. If you add some rubble live rock (not much-a piece or two) and then feed that rock sparingly (1x a day) with...

somthing to feed the nitrogen cycle. (piece of raw shrimp) Quote: Originally Posted by meowzer I have Amquel+ I feel okay leaving the goby where it is and not rushing it....ONLY because I did a good w/c yesterday, and it has eaten voraciously for me last night and this morning. Organic what????

What I would do is introduce some organics for brake down and test for nitrification. Get some PRIME so you can deal with ammonia and or nitrites as you build your bio filtration. Now you have to decide if you rather take the chance with what killed your other fish and leave the goby in the DT...

You Quote” I recommend using the live sand because that sand has biological colonies on it which will help to kick start the bio filter “ How can we be sure without a microscopic evaluation of the sand that there are any colonies of nitrifying bacteria on the sand? So this is an opinion and not...