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Originally Posted by Bang Guy We also receive free lobotomies as part of the training program. I still have the front half of my brain sitting in a glass jar on my desk. Ah, so that's the difference! Mods have it removed while us long time members just have it atrophy until it just doesn't...

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW True, I won't disagree with this. But the discussion was the assault weapon's ban. I have been debating this aspect of the ban. Turning Tim is debating the constitution in general. Thus my debate with him is fruitless is my point as we are debating two...

Honestly I don't know where to go. So I guess I will back out. Darth you are correct I argue the entire document b/c I see no way that you can pick and choose what is to be taken literally and what is up for interpretation. I would hope that we can say that not all of the rights granted to us...

WOW, we live in a different world! Darth, never said there SHOULD be a ban. I stated that the constitutional arguments are weak at best. So we should have just executed this guy! Whoops..... http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/09/26...act/index.html The Supreme court has NEVER UPHELD THE PATRIOT ACT...

One more thing. I was told by one of the Constitutional scholars that is taking part in this thread. "According to those who count the patriot act is constitutional. Doesn't really matter what you or anyone else thinks." FALSE! "Your opinion of what is constitutional doesn't matter squat. The...

Grocery shopping yet again. When someone would enjoy a discussion on "THE CONSTITUTION" that actually follows the laws that are and were put in place let me know. Everyone loves to pick and choose but fails to realize we as a country have and will continue to amend the laws that pertain to this...

A small bit of reading on the subject. http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...w/beararms.htm

Originally Posted by Bang Guy Who was disarmed during WWII other than the French? German weapon control act 1939. Amended previous law that stated Jews where not allowed to carry hand guns to all guns and ammo. This by reason, the less than 200,000 Jews left in Germany where completely...

I never said I was conservative either did I? I never said I was against the 2nd amendment did I? I never said that those things were not factual. I said the assertions made that used these words in context has no factual basis. Your statement is a bit simplistic isn't it? Really all things...

I'm offended simply b/c you make these assertions using terms like "Hitler, Germany and WWII" as catch phrases to intimidate and scare. With no factual basis what so ever. Bang I'm all for valid cohesive follow the dots arguments on any subject. But the unsubstantiated nonsense and comparisons...

Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici 1939 era where my exact words.It would have been different,And at least they would have had a fighting chance instead of none at all. If your offended that isnt because of what i said isnt true.Im not going to try and make crap smell like a rose for you so...

Originally Posted by 1journeyman While we are stating facts; There are well documented accounts of Jews surviving the holocaust by taking up arms and fighting back... More guns obviously would have equaled more survivors. Take that to the next level... Would the German army have been so brazen...

Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici The liberal losing an argument battle cry "WELL WHAT ABOUT BUSH......." Ah followed by the conservative "What about Nazi Germany"..... This coming from someone who actually has the nerve to suggest that "if" the Jews in Germany had the use of firearms that...

Bush supporters arguing over Constitutional Law? Strict adherence to the Constitution Now that's funny. And whom I wonder could have set such a precedence for these unconstitutional actions? Of course all in the interest of "Keeping us safe"

Originally Posted by crimzy This thread sounds like tons o' fun. But where is your obligatory, "If I hear this one more time then I'll stick a tree branch up my a$$..."? I rather enjoy your whiney discussions of self-mutilation My personal favorite is "Wait let me throw myself down the...

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW Everything the supreme has looked at regarding unconstitutionality of the patriot act....only thing the over turned was regarding Gitmo detainees from what I can see. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...ct&btnG=Search Take the time and read it all for...

Originally Posted by reefraff Missed this the other day. Your opinion of what is constitutional doesn't matter squat. The Supreme court had the chance to throw it out and didn't. That is the only opinion that counts. Really? When was this heard? Where is the published opinion? Where is the...

Originally Posted by 1journeyman You do realize Carter didn't take over from Nixon, right? So Ford is to blame? 6 years of Pres Nixon and 2 years of Pres Ford. I think Pres Nixon had a bit more of an impact than did Pres Ford...... Oh I forgot it was all LBJ's fault that's right! Isn't that...

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW Actually there is legislature to legalize certain drugs. To free up money and assetts for other things. The drugs would be taxed as well. This would also free up space in the jails where we have drug felons incarcerated and allow us to imprison truly violent...