415 Gallon Plywood Tank Build

acrylic51

acrylic51

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Corey!!!!!! Sometimes I wonder if you inside my empty head......
For a week or so since I started looking at the foam wall deal, I've been thinking about the corners myself.....I was considering tinkering with something on that line to try to conceal/mask the Tunze 6055's I want to put into each corner of the tank......Damn your dangerous.....
I think the rock/foam wall would actually look and work into the scheme of things on the far end of the tank where the wavebox will be....The rock/foam wall could easily be utilized to make/hide the grate work of the wavebox....I could even epoxy and dust the Tunze grates with sand as well.....

Sorry for the bad pic, but this is the end of the tank where the wavebox will be installed.....The panel will be smoked/black acrylic and the wavebox itself will actually be outside the tank itself. so the only you would theoretically see from the inside of the tank is the grates of the Tunze's and there will be 3 utilized in the wavebox. With what I'm hoping with the help of Gemmy to come up with a rock/foam wall in this area.....???? What do you guys think?
 
acrylic51

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I just shot you a PM Gemmy!!!!!! Thanks!!!!
Hey Corey, quick question, what's the biggest size on the Loc line? Do they have something that has 3-4 separate ports off of 1 main body?
 
al&burke

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Shawn I am curious if you go BB would the bottom be flat or could you incorporate some sand dunes or something like that, or would it really matter with all the live rock on top of it. I just thought it would look cool if it wasn't completely flat. IMHO.
 
2quills

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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///forum/thread/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/580#post_3342258
I just shot you a PM Gemmy!!!!!! Thanks!!!!
Hey Corey, quick question, what's the biggest size on the Loc line? Do they have something that has 3-4 separate ports off of 1 main body?
Pretty sure the only sizes they have are 1/4", 1/2", 3/4" and 2". I'll have to check out the parts catalog when I get home. If they don't they have different addapters and wye's that you could probably make something with 4 ports. Are you asking in regaurds to your return line or for the CL stuff?
 
acrylic51

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Sorry Corey I didn't see the last part of your question on your last post.....Yeah looking at the Loc line for the returns on the bottom of the tank for the 1 CL system.......The returns from the main pump I'm still planning to utilize the jet bulkheads I had told you about earlier.....
 
2quills

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Yep, I'd check out that site that Henry posted. That's where I got mine from. You could maybe look into the modular manifold designs that they have or just check out there selection of different nozzles and adapters. I'd also mention that if you do get loc-line stuff then it's worth it to spend the few extra bucks and get the little essembly pliers for them.
 
acrylic51

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/600#post_3342502
Yep, I'd check out that site that Henry posted. That's where I got mine from. You could maybe look into the modular manifold designs that they have or just check out there selection of different nozzles and adapters. I'd also mention that if you do get loc-line stuff then it's worth it to spend the few extra bucks and get the little essembly pliers for them.
 
gemmy

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What dimensions would you like for the foam rock tunze grate cover up? Do you want just foam like the build from nano reef or do you want rock incorporated? http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f267/my-foam-rock-wall-build-122412.html. That one was made with Great Stuff foam and was just the foam and PVC. Now, I am going to complicate things. I can make fake sand dunes that can add a little something to the bottom of the tank without having a sand bed. I can incorporate tunnels into the dunes as well. Just let me know your thoughts.
 
acrylic51

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Originally Posted by Gemmy http:///forum/thread/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/600#post_3342519
What dimensions would you like for the foam rock tunze grate cover up? Do you want just foam like the build from nano reef or do you want rock incorporated? http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f267/my-foam-rock-wall-build-122412.html. That one was made with Great Stuff foam and was just the foam and PVC. Now, I am going to complicate things. I can make fake sand dunes that can add a little something to the bottom of the tank without having a sand bed. I can incorporate tunnels into the dunes as well. Just let me know your thoughts.
Thanks Gemmy.....Not sure have to look at both builds again....I know the measurements of the proposed area. The area in question is 36"L x 22 1/2"H....Where it gets tricky I have to do a little work on the design for the holes for the wavebox. There is a little design work that I need to contact JarHead over at RC to pick his brain. He had a guy custom build his box and I need to get that info from him to know exactly how far down and how far apart the tunzes are located.....Give me a bit to get in contact with him. I honestly don't want to put you out or put you through tons of work.......
Your gonna have to come up and I'll have to treat you down in Lancaster at ThatPetPlace.........
 
desertdawg

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My thoughts....
I really like the look of the background you added, keep it!!!
If you go painted or covered bottom aren't you going to have to worry about coralline growing on it, if its a rough surface then you will never be able to scrap it off !
How about maybe a fake sand bed where you epoxy the sand like your talking about, then add like 1/2" to 1" of sand on top to move around so that it doesn't grow coralline.
 
gemmy

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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///forum/thread/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/600#post_3342564
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Originally Posted by Gemmy http:///forum/thread/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/600#post_3342519
What dimensions would you like for the foam rock tunze grate cover up? Do you want just foam like the build from nano reef or do you want rock incorporated? http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f267/my-foam-rock-wall-build-122412.html. That one was made with Great Stuff foam and was just the foam and PVC. Now, I am going to complicate things. I can make fake sand dunes that can add a little something to the bottom of the tank without having a sand bed. I can incorporate tunnels into the dunes as well. Just let me know your thoughts.
Thanks Gemmy.....Not sure have to look at both builds again....I know the measurements of the proposed area. The area in question is 36"L x 22 1/2"H....Where it gets tricky I have to do a little work on the design for the holes for the wavebox. There is a little design work that I need to contact JarHead over at RC to pick his brain. He had a guy custom build his box and I need to get that info from him to know exactly how far down and how far apart the tunzes are located.....Give me a bit to get in contact with him. I honestly don't want to put you out or put you through tons of work.......
Your gonna have to come up and I'll have to treat you down in Lancaster at ThatPetPlace.........
Hey, you are not putting me out or through tons of work. I like doing projects like this and I offered to do it. Just let me know the info about the wave box when you get them. I have some scrap egg crate laying around so I may toy around with some different textures and post pics. I get bored very easily and like to do "artsy" things, especially late at night.
 
desertdawg

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemmy http:///forum/thread/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/600#post_3342870
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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///forum/thread/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/600#post_3342564
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Originally Posted by Gemmy http:///forum/thread/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/600#post_3342519
Do you want just foam like the build from nano reef or do you want rock incorporated? http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f267/my-foam-rock-wall-build-122412.html. That one was made with Great Stuff foam and was just the foam and PVC.
Has anyone ever left the Great Stuff wall in for a long time? The link you provided shows a cool project but the person took it out without really telling us if it was working or had any detrimental effects on the tank....
 
2quills

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Seen this over on another site, not sure how reliabe the information is, but here you go...
"thought it was worth mentioning that over in (edit) foam rock thread, somebody contacted the DOW company about the foam.
In the response, DOW said that the regular greatstuff foam should not be used as its not totally waterproof, they specifically said it would break down over time.
They said to use their 'pond foam' version which is basically the same, but they claim that one to be fish safe.
I am only going to use the pond foam myself!"
Edit: It looks like what they are saying essentially is that the pond foam has a carbon black color to it which is supposed to help protect against u.v. damage and break down over time.
 
acrylic51

acrylic51

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Originally Posted by Desertdawg http:///forum/thread/376802/415-gallon-plywood-tank-build/600#post_3342755
My thoughts....
I really like the look of the background you added, keep it!!!
If you go painted or covered bottom aren't you going to have to worry about coralline growing on it, if its a rough surface then you will never be able to scrap it off !
How about maybe a fake sand bed where you epoxy the sand like your talking about, then add like 1/2" to 1" of sand on top to move around so that it doesn't grow coralline.
The bottom will have to be painted or covered somehow.....1 thing about epoxy is that it isn't UV resistant.....That is why you see guys that do plywood builds using Sweetwater paint on the inside of the tank. I don't want to follow the norm, and your limited to the colors available to you. Tinting the epoxy as I did doesn't offer UV resistance, it's more a monitoring system I thought about to monitor the condition of the tank while it's running. If I would happen to see the white epoxy appear from underneath, it will clue me in that something has been compromised......Meaning immediate attention on my part.
My thought on the faux sand bed was that it would add some protection, and I was thinking of doing a SSB. I think my fear/though comes into play is what I'm planning for the flow throughout the tank. I'll have to dig up the original specs on proposed CL holes for the bottom of the tank.
 
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