Abortion...So here's your thread

peef

peef

Active Member
Originally Posted by fishyCPA
As a person with a family member who can't have children, and as a human, I find having an abortion b/c you can't buy it name brand clothes or becuase it is inconvient, is so highly offensive I am almost sick on my stomach.

Well until my wife became pregnant she was diagnosed to never be able to have children due to the fact that she was ---- d, when she was younger so I don't agree with that being an excuse not to.
Its not name brand cothing, its everything I want my child to be able to do he/she couldn't. We are too young and could not provide the things a child would need. And whether you agree with it or not I will not join the millions of lower class americans reproducing over and over again just to be supported by other americans through welfare and section housing. My mistakes and decisions should not be a burdon to the state.
 
peef

peef

Active Member
Originally Posted by saltn00b
a question then - why bring an unwanted child into this over populated world?

As bad as it may sound, I TOTALLY agree.
And again for you (not saltnoob) saying that its irresponsible to abort a child you can care for??!?!? WHAT??? What other reason is there? And like I said before if you have not giving a child up for adoption you can't even BEGIN to imagine what its like. I found my birth parents and have a fantastic relationship with them. But the torment my mother went through was extreme. I agree with adoption totally, but until you have to do it you can't understand it. And just knowing someone who is adopted doesn't count.
 
jessica47421

jessica47421

Active Member
Originally Posted by BabyB
question for you
why should someone go to prison for KILLING a person say the meet on the street
and a mother not go to prison for KILLING her unborn baby
its the same thing, both have a heart beet, both a mind, both ARE HUMAN there is no difference
another question
why do people who abuse and KILL animals go to prison
it has NOTHING to do with the money issue it is something much higher than that
and for you to put someone with a soul, a heart beat, a future lower than money
god help you
couldnt have said it any better........
 
darknes

darknes

Active Member
Abortion is probably the toughest moral decision there is to make. I don't think anyone would say that abortion is good (I don't know many who get pregnant just so they can kill the fetus), but the arguement is over which is the lesser of two evils.
As for my opinion, I'm against it, and I do feel bad that people cannot take responsibility for their actions, and go the easy route; there is always a way. However, I'm not perfect myself and I'd never judge another person's decision; that's not my place.
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

Active Member
Salt, you misread the post I was addressing. Also, your roommate is not "Pro Life". He's a liar.
I appreciate those that have shared their personal experiences. That said, I'll try to speak in generalities rather than address personal situations.
My question goes unanswered; When does life begin? That should be the tip of the

[hr]
in this debate. What is the difference between a fetus and a newborn child? How about a two year old? What if a wealthy family suddenly finds themselves in a financial crunch. Can they choose to kill a newborn? Of course not. Our society recoils at such notions.
Why bring an unwanted child into this world? Simple; Because it is a life... A parent may not want a child, but given the choice i'm guessing most fetuses would say "Who cares what you want, I want to live!".
As for the arguments about welfare and government intervention; More Strawmen. If we need to fund more orphanages here and send a little less cash to the palestinians or Mexico so be it. Our nation's budget could absorb it. Murder is a criminal offense, so of course the government has a right to regulate it. And make no mistake about it; at some point killing a fetus is no less murder than pointing a handgun at a child and pulling the trigger.
My question is; When is a fetus a life? Sadly, that's not debated because as a society we're afraid of the answer. It's too easy and too convenient to ignore what science shows us. Every year younger premature babies survive further greying the line between life and "choice".
Yet we still hear the mantra of "my body my choice". Pretty slogan and all, but horribly inaccurate. I couldn't freakin care less what a woman does with her body. It's the body of the unborn child I care about...
 
clown boy

clown boy

Active Member
Two pages in 12 hours. Now that's some kind of a record.
I know, this will sound silly. But it's a legitimate question. What do you think the baby would say if it could talk? Abortion is a lot like the Terri Schievo case. Just because the person cannot speak for himself, he gets killed. Why?
According to the law in our state, a murder of an individual under six years of age calls for capital punishment. This means that if someone is killed two weeks after birth, the killer must be executed. However, if the killing is done by a doctor two weeks before birth, it is suddenly ok. Why?
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

Active Member
Originally Posted by Clown Boy
Two pages in 12 hours. Now that's some kind of a record.
I know, this will sound silly. But it's a legitimate question. What do you think the baby would say if it could talk? Abortion is a lot like the Terri Schievo case. Just because the person cannot speak for himself, he gets killed. Why?
According to the law in our state, a murder of an individual under six years of age calls for capital punishment. This means that if someone is killed two weeks after birth, the killer must be executed. However, if the killing is done by a doctor two weeks before birth, it is suddenly ok. Why?
First off, I'm a big fan of many of our laws in our state..
Second, we were on the same track; I covered what the fetus would say in my above post.
 
ruaround

ruaround

Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
First off, I'm a big fan of many of our laws in our state..
Second, we were on the same track; I covered what the fetus would say in my above post.
a fetus cant speak... how do you know what it would say???
 
ruaround

ruaround

Active Member
Originally Posted by fishyCPA
It wouldn't say, "kill me"
of course not... you wouldnt know how to...
1journey and Clown Boy do you support capital punishment???
 
jtrzerocool

jtrzerocool

Active Member
i cant answer you when a life begins or what a baby would say...but speaking from personal experiance that it was one of the hardest decisions that i have ever had to make(if not the hardest)...at the time i was young and had, by no means, a stable job(i was working at round table pizza)...my fience and i made a decision at the time that we thought would be best for our future...if i had to go back and do it all over again i would probably do the same thing...but we agreed to never get an abortion again...and seeing how much pain she was in during the process i will never put her through that much pain and hurt again...
 
clown boy

clown boy

Active Member
Originally Posted by ruaround
1journey and Clown Boy do you support capital punishment???
What does that have to do with anything? Start another thread.
 
ruaround

ruaround

Active Member
Originally Posted by Clown Boy
What does that have to do with anything? Start another thread.
just answer the question... do you believe in capital punishment... dont dodge it...
 
clown boy

clown boy

Active Member
Originally Posted by ruaround
just answer the question... do you believe in capital punishment... dont dodge it...
I'm not dodging it, and am totally willing to pour my heart out about it in another thread.
But just to make you happy, yes, I think that if someone has taken one's life, he deserves to have his taken. It's a principle millenniums old.
 
alix2.0

alix2.0

Active Member
having had friends go through this situation, i am 100% pro. the government shouldnt be allowed to get involved. i have a friend who had an abortion, and i know her life would have been ruined if she didnt do it. not getting into all the details of that specific situation, do you think it would be right to force a 13 year old CHILD to have a baby? when she doesnt even have the legal right to sign a paper to get herself a shot, when she cant even buy RX medicine, do you think it is right to force her to hold full responsibility of a helpless baby? even if she were to put it up for adoption is childbirth something you would force a child so young to go through?
its easy to say wait till your married to get it on... but how many of you actually did? just because you make one bad decision... having ---, going to a party, drinking, drugs... should you (and the baby!) be punished for the rest of your lives?
"if you cant trust me with a choice... how could you ever trust me with a baby?"
 
ruaround

ruaround

Active Member
Originally Posted by Clown Boy
I'm not dodging it, and am totally willing to pour my heart out about it in another thread.
But just to make you happy, yes, I think that if someone has taken one's life, he deserves to have his taken. It's a principle millenniums old.
perfect... so youre not 100% pro life...
 
clown boy

clown boy

Active Member
Originally Posted by ruaround
perfect... so youre not 100% pro life...
Weak trap. I am 100% Pro Justice. If an innocent person cannot speak for himself, it is a crime for him to be killed.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top