emilaya101
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I'll give it a shot and keep ya'll posted
Anyone ever heard of an ecoaqualizer?
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bang guy
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Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2573589
But this thread is just like I left it months ago; lots of posts on why it can't work and few by folks who have tried it and know it doesn't. I disd quite a test on this thing, not very scientific, but more than just plugging it in. I'll find my notes & post within the next week. Until then, I'll just repeat what I said earlier:"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."
-- Albert Einstein
That's not really true. A couple groups have tested what they could. One of the "benefits" was increased redox. This is easy to test and after a dozen very controlled tests it has shown that redox levels during the tests were unaffected.
The tests consisted of a single tank with two closed loops. One loop contained an Eco-Aqualizer and the other loop was just PVC tubing. A valve determined whick loop the water flowed through. No matter what loop was used the redox was statistically identical.
http:///forum/post/2573589
But this thread is just like I left it months ago; lots of posts on why it can't work and few by folks who have tried it and know it doesn't. I disd quite a test on this thing, not very scientific, but more than just plugging it in. I'll find my notes & post within the next week. Until then, I'll just repeat what I said earlier:"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."
-- Albert Einstein
That's not really true. A couple groups have tested what they could. One of the "benefits" was increased redox. This is easy to test and after a dozen very controlled tests it has shown that redox levels during the tests were unaffected.
The tests consisted of a single tank with two closed loops. One loop contained an Eco-Aqualizer and the other loop was just PVC tubing. A valve determined whick loop the water flowed through. No matter what loop was used the redox was statistically identical.
bang guy
Moderator
Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2573589
Try it for a couple of months; it can't hurt anything.
I agree, it's probably not going to hurt anything.
http:///forum/post/2573589
Try it for a couple of months; it can't hurt anything.
I agree, it's probably not going to hurt anything.
snakeblitz33
Well-Known Member
pfft, waste of money... that hurts the pocketbook.
acrylic51
Active Member
Why is it that this company has claimed to have invented the "cure all" for aquariums? Obviously they haven't or there wouldn't be any need for all the associated products and test kits out there that are involved in the hobby.....Better yet, I would like to see the owner or creator of this company actually post pics of his personal tank or tanks to show what great wonders this invention has done?????
Proof is in the pudding.......
srfisher17
Active Member
Originally Posted by acrylic51
http:///forum/post/2574850
Why is it that this company has claimed to have invented the "cure all" for aquariums? Obviously they haven't or there wouldn't be any need for all the associated products and test kits out there that are involved in the hobby.....Better yet, I would like to see the owner or creator of this company actually post pics of his personal tank or tanks to show what great wonders this invention has done?????
Proof is in the pudding.......
I don't buy the cure-all either; but know, through actual use, that is does something beneficial..
http:///forum/post/2574850
Why is it that this company has claimed to have invented the "cure all" for aquariums? Obviously they haven't or there wouldn't be any need for all the associated products and test kits out there that are involved in the hobby.....Better yet, I would like to see the owner or creator of this company actually post pics of his personal tank or tanks to show what great wonders this invention has done?????
I don't buy the cure-all either; but know, through actual use, that is does something beneficial..
srfisher17
Active Member
Here's the (condensed) log on my Eco-Aqqalizer, I keep a log on everything fishy and had to dig a bit. I still think don't like the name, so I'll just call it the Gizmo.
3/06 -got the gizmo as a gift.
2/07 finally started using it, after reading and doubting their web site. This model comes with a pump and takes 2 mins to set up. The tank is my 55 "retro". A bit overstocked, no LR, lots of skeletal coral--just like my 1st tanks of about 30 years ago. It has a Aqua-C Remora Pro skimmer. After a few weeks; the skim was MUCH darker and there was more volume. I cut the gizmo on and off for a couple weeks at a time; there is no doubt that the thing was pulling more & darker crud when in use.
10/07 I did my 1st post on this thread, there's quite a history.
12/07 The dark skim gradually turned to a very small amount of almost clear stuff and I thought the skeptics were right. The skimmer I use really is goof-proof, so I again cut off the gizmo. After a few weeks, I contacted the mfg, he pointed me to the web site and the gizmo was doing exactly what the site said it would:first pull a lot of crud, then hardly any..because the gizmo is working; there just wasn't much crud to skim. The gizmo was started again, went through the dark skim and has been in the light skim phase since.
4/08This tank has been in perfect health and, like an earlier post said; skittish fish (fairy wrasse, carberryi anthias, BC basslet) are noticeably more active. I know this is hard to quantify; but I know my fish in all my tanks very well, I think that is the best form of preventative medicine. I am a clear water nut and this is a Wal-Mart type tank. The water is so clear, it almost looks like the starphire glass I have on my bigger tanks.
This gizmo has been de-bunked by folks on this forum who really know their stuff; I don't know what it does or how it does it...but its doing something beneficial.(Last I looked, scientists don't know how aspirin works, and I'll use my bumble bee example from above) I even think I could take off the skimmer with no bad results; because it isn't doing much. I did put the skimmer on another tank, just to be sure it didn't have a problem. It doesn't , it worked like expected. I don't buy all the hype either (please read all my earlier posts and you'll see that); but that's true of many products. I'm not gullible, in fact, I have NEVER bought any product that says "not sold in stores". (Wal-Mart has a return policy, that's why they don't sell the TV stuff.) I'm ready to hook them up to my other two tanks and will be adding one to my last tank when its set up and running. With a 6 month guarantee (I think they even refund shipping) Why wouldn't I?
I'll repeat myself; this thread has 3 kinds of posts. 1.) Many people who explain why it can't work; but have never tried it. 2.) 1 person who did try it and didn't like it. and 3.) Several people who do like it. Criticize all you want, but I'll fire back at the insults that came last time I defended this thing!
3/06 -got the gizmo as a gift.
2/07 finally started using it, after reading and doubting their web site. This model comes with a pump and takes 2 mins to set up. The tank is my 55 "retro". A bit overstocked, no LR, lots of skeletal coral--just like my 1st tanks of about 30 years ago. It has a Aqua-C Remora Pro skimmer. After a few weeks; the skim was MUCH darker and there was more volume. I cut the gizmo on and off for a couple weeks at a time; there is no doubt that the thing was pulling more & darker crud when in use.
10/07 I did my 1st post on this thread, there's quite a history.
12/07 The dark skim gradually turned to a very small amount of almost clear stuff and I thought the skeptics were right. The skimmer I use really is goof-proof, so I again cut off the gizmo. After a few weeks, I contacted the mfg, he pointed me to the web site and the gizmo was doing exactly what the site said it would:first pull a lot of crud, then hardly any..because the gizmo is working; there just wasn't much crud to skim. The gizmo was started again, went through the dark skim and has been in the light skim phase since.
4/08This tank has been in perfect health and, like an earlier post said; skittish fish (fairy wrasse, carberryi anthias, BC basslet) are noticeably more active. I know this is hard to quantify; but I know my fish in all my tanks very well, I think that is the best form of preventative medicine. I am a clear water nut and this is a Wal-Mart type tank. The water is so clear, it almost looks like the starphire glass I have on my bigger tanks.
This gizmo has been de-bunked by folks on this forum who really know their stuff; I don't know what it does or how it does it...but its doing something beneficial.(Last I looked, scientists don't know how aspirin works, and I'll use my bumble bee example from above) I even think I could take off the skimmer with no bad results; because it isn't doing much. I did put the skimmer on another tank, just to be sure it didn't have a problem. It doesn't , it worked like expected. I don't buy all the hype either (please read all my earlier posts and you'll see that); but that's true of many products. I'm not gullible, in fact, I have NEVER bought any product that says "not sold in stores". (Wal-Mart has a return policy, that's why they don't sell the TV stuff.) I'm ready to hook them up to my other two tanks and will be adding one to my last tank when its set up and running. With a 6 month guarantee (I think they even refund shipping) Why wouldn't I?
I'll repeat myself; this thread has 3 kinds of posts. 1.) Many people who explain why it can't work; but have never tried it. 2.) 1 person who did try it and didn't like it. and 3.) Several people who do like it. Criticize all you want, but I'll fire back at the insults that came last time I defended this thing!
darrinsimon
Member
Well from what I have read so far you guys have debunked this gizmo right here on this thread. The EcoAqualizer websites says in plain english quote " ECO-Aqualizer completely ELiMiNATES the need for a Protein Skimmer - We Guarantee it 100%" This can be found a little more than halfway down on their website in a red bannerlike advert.
Quite a few users here say that their skimmers definitely pull darker skimmate when the gizmo is running, how could this be? If the gizmo could ELiMiNATE (and I don't know why they spell eliminate that way) a protein skimmer; wouldn't your skimmer stop producing skimmate? Just an observation here people that I thought I would share.
Quite a few users here say that their skimmers definitely pull darker skimmate when the gizmo is running, how could this be? If the gizmo could ELiMiNATE (and I don't know why they spell eliminate that way) a protein skimmer; wouldn't your skimmer stop producing skimmate? Just an observation here people that I thought I would share.
srfisher17
Active Member
Originally Posted by DarrinSimon
http:///forum/post/2594465
Well from what I have read so far you guys have debunked this gizmo right here on this thread. The EcoAqualizer websites says in plain english quote " ECO-Aqualizer completely ELiMiNATES the need for a Protein Skimmer - We Guarantee it 100%" This can be found a little more than halfway down on their website in a red bannerlike advert.
Quite a few users here say that their skimmers definitely pull darker skimmate when the gizmo is running, how could this be? If the gizmo could ELiMiNATE (and I don't know why they spell eliminate that way) a protein skimmer; wouldn't your skimmer stop producing skimmate? Just an observation here people that I thought I would share.
That's what I thought, then the skim turns light and almost non-existent..see the 12/07 entry in my drivel above. You're right, I've seen a lot of stuff de-bunking this from a scientific standpoint and I agree with the logic. But, the de-bunkers haven't actually used it.(didn't the De-Bunkers live next to the De-Jeffersons) When using it, that's another story. I can give you a dozen reasons why escargot should be disgusting, but I love it. Like I said, NASA computer models a say a bumblebee can't fly. There should be a lot more input from folks who have actually used one of these and find it useless--but there just is not. With a 180 day guarantee, what does anyone have to lose? Just for the fun of it, I called one of their retailers (who I've met & trust) and they have never had one returned--hardly a scientific sampling, but interesting.
http:///forum/post/2594465
Well from what I have read so far you guys have debunked this gizmo right here on this thread. The EcoAqualizer websites says in plain english quote " ECO-Aqualizer completely ELiMiNATES the need for a Protein Skimmer - We Guarantee it 100%" This can be found a little more than halfway down on their website in a red bannerlike advert.
Quite a few users here say that their skimmers definitely pull darker skimmate when the gizmo is running, how could this be? If the gizmo could ELiMiNATE (and I don't know why they spell eliminate that way) a protein skimmer; wouldn't your skimmer stop producing skimmate? Just an observation here people that I thought I would share.
That's what I thought, then the skim turns light and almost non-existent..see the 12/07 entry in my drivel above. You're right, I've seen a lot of stuff de-bunking this from a scientific standpoint and I agree with the logic. But, the de-bunkers haven't actually used it.(didn't the De-Bunkers live next to the De-Jeffersons) When using it, that's another story. I can give you a dozen reasons why escargot should be disgusting, but I love it. Like I said, NASA computer models a say a bumblebee can't fly. There should be a lot more input from folks who have actually used one of these and find it useless--but there just is not. With a 180 day guarantee, what does anyone have to lose? Just for the fun of it, I called one of their retailers (who I've met & trust) and they have never had one returned--hardly a scientific sampling, but interesting.
nordy
Active Member
srfisher17,
I have read the entire thread (oy, does my head hurt!) and after reading your post above, I have to wonder, if indeed the gizmo does actually do something (I am very skeptical, but will reserve judgement for the moment) besides separate folks from their money, I have to wonder, what does then happen to the DOC's in the tank that a properly functioning skimmer removes? The fish are still pooping, and the contents of the water should still be the same. I don't see the gizmo actually changing the biological cycle/processes that produce the wastes that a skimmer will remove, so the big question should be, where does the stuff go? Is it still there but the gizmo maybe just makes it invisible? Do the DOC's maybe precipitate out of the water and fall to the bottom of the tank?
Your post of your results is interesting and if there is indeed any actual effect from using the gizmo, then we should be able to determine just what is happening and just how it does happen. This is where the manufacturer should provide solid reproducible theory to back up their claims, something I haven't seen yet. There are SW fishkeepers that do not use a skimmer, (I do have one on my 55gal reef) so we know that it is possible.
An interesting debate for sure!
I have read the entire thread (oy, does my head hurt!) and after reading your post above, I have to wonder, if indeed the gizmo does actually do something (I am very skeptical, but will reserve judgement for the moment) besides separate folks from their money, I have to wonder, what does then happen to the DOC's in the tank that a properly functioning skimmer removes? The fish are still pooping, and the contents of the water should still be the same. I don't see the gizmo actually changing the biological cycle/processes that produce the wastes that a skimmer will remove, so the big question should be, where does the stuff go? Is it still there but the gizmo maybe just makes it invisible? Do the DOC's maybe precipitate out of the water and fall to the bottom of the tank?
Your post of your results is interesting and if there is indeed any actual effect from using the gizmo, then we should be able to determine just what is happening and just how it does happen. This is where the manufacturer should provide solid reproducible theory to back up their claims, something I haven't seen yet. There are SW fishkeepers that do not use a skimmer, (I do have one on my 55gal reef) so we know that it is possible.
An interesting debate for sure!
srfisher17
Active Member
Yeah it is interesting. I still use my skimmer, but it pulls a fraction of what it pulls when the Eco is disconnected. I have absolutely no idea what happens to stuff; I'm just not technical (or maybe interested ) enough to understand. But; I do know a healthy, beautiful, well functioning tank, and I'm convinced this gizmo helps create one. When there is a 6 mo guarantee (I think they even refund postage) its easy to check out.
nordy
Active Member
"I do know a healthy, beautiful, well functioning tank, and I'm convinced this gizmo helps create one. "
This is what can make it hard to tell if the gizmo really does what they say-someone would have to do some double blind studies with tanks as identical as possible and then figure out what to measure so that the effect, if any, of the gizmo could be quantified. It could be a long term and expensive study but should be easy to set up. I would not trust any studies done by the manufacturer, but if there is indeed a real and significant effect an independent study should be able to determine if that is the case.
My tank is a healthy, beautiful (I think so anyway
), and well functioning tank but that is the result of my SW fish and reef keeping experience (making mistakes here and there, of course), including help and advice from fellow SWF.com forum members. I think many people here on the boards (myself included) are reluctant to change what has been working for them for a long time without some real, hard, reproducible, and explainable evidence that some "gizmo" can be the next best thng since sliced bread.
This is what can make it hard to tell if the gizmo really does what they say-someone would have to do some double blind studies with tanks as identical as possible and then figure out what to measure so that the effect, if any, of the gizmo could be quantified. It could be a long term and expensive study but should be easy to set up. I would not trust any studies done by the manufacturer, but if there is indeed a real and significant effect an independent study should be able to determine if that is the case.
My tank is a healthy, beautiful (I think so anyway
srfisher17
Active Member
I pretty much agree, I don't go for all the hype of any product. I love Boyd's Chemi-Pure; but don't buy their "no water changes, ever" ad campaign. I'm not selling this thing and didn't start the thread. But, one was given to me, I love it, and think I have made an honest representation of what has happened with mine. I plan on putting one in my last tank (yeah, right); a 240 no LR, just substrate & skeletal coral...and if I don't think I'm getting my money's worth, I'll return it 6 months later. I'll be able to tell, by experimentation, weather it works or not...at least to my satisfaction. When we get this issue resolved; we can go into the hype of U.V., hermit crabs, etc.
emtguy
Member
My 0.2 is this. If the website offers a money back policy they either know their product works or are betting on the fact that alot of people will not go through the hassle of sending it back. I do not own one and probally wont b/c i got to much stuff on the back of my tank already but instead of debating it i would try it and then just post what i saw diffrent in my tanks functioning.
P.S. the bumble bee thing is a urban legend, they can fly according to the laws of physics and no one ever doubted that. Not even NASA.
P.S. the bumble bee thing is a urban legend, they can fly according to the laws of physics and no one ever doubted that. Not even NASA.
scsinet
Active Member
Originally Posted by emtguy
http:///forum/post/2595378
My 0.2 is this. If the website offers a money back policy they either know their product works or are betting on the fact that alot of people will not go through the hassle of sending it back.
I agree...
Look at this from the manufacturer's perspective...
Here you have a product that sells for varying prices, but let's take the 40 gallon model. $70. Look at the photos on this thread of one taken apart. What do we suppose it actually costs the manufacturer to build one? Buying parts in quantity, I'd guess no more than $5. That's a $65 profit. If HALF of the people who buy the product return it, they are still making $30 on each and every unit they sell that doesn't come back to them (that is, if the ones that get returned are not refurbished and sold as new).
Now, also take a look at it from the marketing side...
The manufacturer makes a lot of claims using "scientfic" terms we know to be pure fiction. Magnets with only one pole do not exist outside of scientific theory. To claim that your $70 tube breaks the laws of modern physics should raise more than few eyebrows.
Combine this with the psychlogical impact of all this... if you claim you can work a miracle and people want to believe it, they'll see you working miracles. I have a rock in my yard that repels elephants. I bought it from a guy who sold it as such. I wanted to believe it, so I took it home. Since I put that rock in my yard, I haven't see even one elephant around. The rock works!
Nobody can measure the success of this unit by installing it onto a tank and seeing if it makes a difference. Anything that happens to a fish tank can usually be attributed to any number of causes. Unless someone sits down and does a scientific experiment with a control and a test environment, no real conclusions can be reached, and the manufacturer is no doubt counting on nobody doing one that has enough voice to speak out and affect their sales.
In the end, I don't have time to do an experiment myself, and given the dubious "scientific" claims and applying my own knowledge of what to expect based on how this thing is built, I don't feel it's illegitimate to draw a conclusion based on that.
http:///forum/post/2595378
My 0.2 is this. If the website offers a money back policy they either know their product works or are betting on the fact that alot of people will not go through the hassle of sending it back.
I agree...
Look at this from the manufacturer's perspective...
Here you have a product that sells for varying prices, but let's take the 40 gallon model. $70. Look at the photos on this thread of one taken apart. What do we suppose it actually costs the manufacturer to build one? Buying parts in quantity, I'd guess no more than $5. That's a $65 profit. If HALF of the people who buy the product return it, they are still making $30 on each and every unit they sell that doesn't come back to them (that is, if the ones that get returned are not refurbished and sold as new).
Now, also take a look at it from the marketing side...
The manufacturer makes a lot of claims using "scientfic" terms we know to be pure fiction. Magnets with only one pole do not exist outside of scientific theory. To claim that your $70 tube breaks the laws of modern physics should raise more than few eyebrows.
Combine this with the psychlogical impact of all this... if you claim you can work a miracle and people want to believe it, they'll see you working miracles. I have a rock in my yard that repels elephants. I bought it from a guy who sold it as such. I wanted to believe it, so I took it home. Since I put that rock in my yard, I haven't see even one elephant around. The rock works!
Nobody can measure the success of this unit by installing it onto a tank and seeing if it makes a difference. Anything that happens to a fish tank can usually be attributed to any number of causes. Unless someone sits down and does a scientific experiment with a control and a test environment, no real conclusions can be reached, and the manufacturer is no doubt counting on nobody doing one that has enough voice to speak out and affect their sales.
In the end, I don't have time to do an experiment myself, and given the dubious "scientific" claims and applying my own knowledge of what to expect based on how this thing is built, I don't feel it's illegitimate to draw a conclusion based on that.
srfisher17
Active Member
I sure respect, and to some extent, agree with much of the arguments against this thing.(The argument sounds like the placebo effect of the "Head On, apply...." ads.) However; I do know enough about business to suspect that a business model; based on people not returning an expensive, useless product, would be a dismal failure.
I'll admit that my defense of this thing may be a little more vocal because of some of the earlier posts that suggest that anyone who tries one of these must be an idiot. But, as long as this thread has gone on, there sure seems to be a lack of people who have actually used it and didn't like it. BTW; I'm really not comparing the two, but I can remember when the whole Berlin System (especially LR) was considered "hocus pocus".
Again, I don't sell them and am not telling anyone to buy one. I am only relating my experience, which is very positive. If the next one I install seems like it doesn't do what I expect, I'll post a negative comment---and get my $ back.
I'll admit that my defense of this thing may be a little more vocal because of some of the earlier posts that suggest that anyone who tries one of these must be an idiot. But, as long as this thread has gone on, there sure seems to be a lack of people who have actually used it and didn't like it. BTW; I'm really not comparing the two, but I can remember when the whole Berlin System (especially LR) was considered "hocus pocus".
Again, I don't sell them and am not telling anyone to buy one. I am only relating my experience, which is very positive. If the next one I install seems like it doesn't do what I expect, I'll post a negative comment---and get my $ back.
darrinsimon
Member
So srfisher17 have you turned off your skimmer yet and will it stay off, that is my only question? I mean it is a money back guarantee (I know you didn't buy it) that it will replace your protein skimmer 100%.
srfisher17
Active Member
Originally Posted by DarrinSimon
http:///forum/post/2595790
So srfisher17 have you turned off your skimmer yet and will it stay off, that is my only question? I mean it is a money back guarantee (I know you didn't buy it) that it will replace your protein skimmer 100%.
See post #110 above. I think I will remove the skimmer; it isn't doing much. And even if I did buy it; its been used more than 6 months. (Sarcasm noted & ignored... Sorry in advance if I read it wrong.)
http:///forum/post/2595790
So srfisher17 have you turned off your skimmer yet and will it stay off, that is my only question? I mean it is a money back guarantee (I know you didn't buy it) that it will replace your protein skimmer 100%.
See post #110 above. I think I will remove the skimmer; it isn't doing much. And even if I did buy it; its been used more than 6 months. (Sarcasm noted & ignored... Sorry in advance if I read it wrong.)
srfisher17
Active Member
Without replying to any specific post,just a note regarding this thread. Its amazing, how many extremely knowledgeable people , both in the technical and the fish keeping areas, are active on this forum. I consider a forum to be an exchange of experiences (bad and good), knowledge, research, and opinions; and that's exactly what this thread is. Thanks to our spongers and everyone else who goes out of their way to contribute to the ever-expanding knowledge base of this great addiction SRF
bang guy
Moderator
Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2596081
Without replying to any specific post,just a note regarding this thread. Its amazing, how many extremely knowledgeable people , both in the technical and the fish keeping areas, are active on this forum. I consider a forum to be an exchange of experiences (bad and good), knowledge, research, and opinions; and that's exactly what this thread is. Thanks to our spongers and everyone else who goes out of their way to contribute to the ever-expanding knowledge base of this great addiction SRF
Great post. I know I've probably said some stuff tongue in cheek about this product and you're right, I really should have a more objective view when replying to questions. Keep the experiences flowing SRF, it really is appreciated. It may seem as though I dismiss this product blindly but that's only partially true. There has been a few studies by reef clubs, including my own reef club. The easiest claim to test is the O.R.P. claim since these levels are not subjective and can be very accurately measured. Very easy to do yourself with any tank. Just plumb the ECO-AQUALIZER in a loop with your pump so that you have valves before and after the device so you can either direct the flow to go through the device or go around the device. Measure ORP constantly, chart it and see if there's any correlation of ORP levels when the device is on and when it's off. PH is another one but the PH measurements need to be taken with a meter for accuracy. Like I said, these tests have been done and no correletion has been noted.
It may do some of the other things claimed but they're just not very easy to test objectively.
http:///forum/post/2596081
Without replying to any specific post,just a note regarding this thread. Its amazing, how many extremely knowledgeable people , both in the technical and the fish keeping areas, are active on this forum. I consider a forum to be an exchange of experiences (bad and good), knowledge, research, and opinions; and that's exactly what this thread is. Thanks to our spongers and everyone else who goes out of their way to contribute to the ever-expanding knowledge base of this great addiction SRF
Great post. I know I've probably said some stuff tongue in cheek about this product and you're right, I really should have a more objective view when replying to questions. Keep the experiences flowing SRF, it really is appreciated. It may seem as though I dismiss this product blindly but that's only partially true. There has been a few studies by reef clubs, including my own reef club. The easiest claim to test is the O.R.P. claim since these levels are not subjective and can be very accurately measured. Very easy to do yourself with any tank. Just plumb the ECO-AQUALIZER in a loop with your pump so that you have valves before and after the device so you can either direct the flow to go through the device or go around the device. Measure ORP constantly, chart it and see if there's any correlation of ORP levels when the device is on and when it's off. PH is another one but the PH measurements need to be taken with a meter for accuracy. Like I said, these tests have been done and no correletion has been noted.
It may do some of the other things claimed but they're just not very easy to test objectively.