Best New Fish Under $100 Suggestions?

grumpygils

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Originally Posted by lion_crazz
Yep, I agree. I would not put any money toward a new fish. All my free spending money would be going to first, buying more fish foods to provide a better diet to your animals, and second, to upgrading your tank to at least a 180 gallon.
Also, if your fish are not growing that quickly, there are either not getting a proper diet or your water quality is poorer than you think. Flake food and mysis shrimp will not sustain any of those fish. They should be getting prawn, krill, squid, plankton, clam, mussel, scallop, silversides, and other meaty seafoods. The tang should also be getting a variety of greens such as kelp, spinach, marine algae, zooplankton, spirulina, etc.
I feed them primarily mysis and flake but also seaweed (tang), clam, siversides and squid biweekly at a minimum. I trade fish and coral in and out about every week. When they become larger, I will move them or trade them. Right now, there is little you can say to make me think they are being mistreated in any way. A 3 inch grouper is just as happy in a 54 as a 12 inch one in a 200g, even happier. Water quality is very good. 1.025, Amm 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate <5, CA 420, phosphates undetectable, DK 8, PH 8.3. All testing confirmed at my work. Water testing lab. I have fuge, UV and protein skimmer.
 

lion_crazz

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I am not saying they are being mistrated now. A juvenile panther grouper, puffer, etc. are fine in a 54 gallon tank. I am just telling you so that you know. Most people do not trade fish out weekly, so I was not aware you did that. Most people view fish as their pets, and want to keep them for life.
However, it is highly irregular for a panther grouper to only grow an inch in four months, especially with daily feedings. Most people do not feed their groupers for 2 or 3 days at a time and the grouper still grows 4 tp 5 inches in half of a year.
 

grumpygils

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Originally Posted by SK8R_DAVE
What's that for? You started this thred asking for advice about stocking a tank and you are getting it. I also believe your fish will out grow the tank,and wouldn't adding another fish mean a meal for your panther? Remember we're just trying to give you advice.

I know, I know and I don't get ticked off at anything people say. I was asking basically about compatibility. I certainly recognize that the Huma and panther will have to go at some point. I am more into corals than fish, so I do not know all the guidlelines for what can go with what. As much as it will probably pain you all, another set of gills is going in there probably today at lunch when I pick up some acropora that came in. Maybe just a large watchman or large red wrasse?
Mc
 

travis89

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Why is it that some people ask for advice and when they don't hear what they want to hear they refuse to listen?
 

jam1e

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yeah ... this thread is bothering me .. it angers me that people ignore their fishes needs ..
 
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saltfreak4

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Originally Posted by grumpygils
I know and a tang in nothing less than a swimming pool!
OH OH OH this gives me fantastic idea. I am going to put in a pool and turn it into salt water. When I will the lottery
 

grumpygils

Active Member
Originally Posted by Jam1e
yeah ... this thread is bothering me .. it angers me that people ignore their fishes needs ..
Jam1e,
I like you avatar so much I just bought two for the 54!
Mc
 

travis89

Active Member
Originally Posted by grumpygils
Jam1e,
I like you avatar so much I just bought two for the 54!
Mc
A 54 gallon isn't big enough for 1 tang let alone 3.
 

fishgeek01

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grumpygills, personally i think that you have made a joke of yourself on this thread, i think it is people like you that do more harm in this hobby than good, i wish no harm on your tradable fish, but really wish for the hobby that you didnt start at all....
 

fishgeek01

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at least not with that kind of mentallity and attitude towards your fish, not to mention the poeple trying to help on here
 

jam1e

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I hope this is a joke becuase I would never think of putting 2 blue hippos in a 54 gallon .. when fully grown .. I wouldn't put them in anything less than 6' feet long .. or 100 gallons .. how big are yours?
 

travis89

Active Member
Originally Posted by Jam1e
I hope this is a joke
Me too but I don't think it is, because the way that he has been throughout the thread. He doesn't care what happens to the fish, if he did he would take every single one of them back to the LFS.
 

jam1e

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the smallest tank I would ever put a mature tang in would be a yellow or scopas tang in a 75 gallon .. but you have a blue hippo surgeon .. they need a lot of swimming room .. trade them back in as soon as possible if you care anything about your fish
 

grumpygils

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Originally Posted by Fishgeek01
grumpygills, personally i think that you have made a joke of yourself on this thread, i think it is people like you that do more harm in this hobby than good, i wish no harm on your tradable fish, but really wish for the hobby that you didnt start at all....
Your name is quite fitting. Please call Fish World, Aquatica, or Down Under in the Raleigh, NC area and ask them if a sub 3 inch panther grouper, HH,Scopas and puffer can go in a 54. I assume that each of these shops have more knowledge than you have even ever read! As I was just at one of them, they will welcome your call!
Mc
 

travis89

Active Member
Originally Posted by grumpygils
Your name is quite fitting. Please call Fish World, Aquatica, or Down Under in the Raleigh, NC area and ask them if a sub 3 inch panther grouper, HH,Scopas and puffer can go in a 54. I assume that each of these shops have more knowledge than you have even ever read! As I was just at one of them, they will welcome your call!
Mc
They know nothing if they told you those fish are fine.
 

grumpygils

Active Member
Originally Posted by Jam1e
the smallest tank I would ever put a mature tang in would be a yellow or scopas tang in a 75 gallon .. but you have a blue hippo surgeon .. they need a lot of swimming room .. trade them back in as soon as possible if you care anything about your fish
Back to an old arguement that rears itsely on this site. How do you determine that a fish that has had the entire ocean to live in is suddenly happy in a 100g and not in a 50g. Please provide scientific fact to substantiate what seems to be only an opinion?
Mc
 

jam1e

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grumpygills: .. are you so ignorant that you don't realize that the only reason they told you to put those fish in your tank is so that you would buy them?! .. the shops are just trying to make a buck .. and you'd be surprised as to how little some fish store owners and emplyees know
 
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