fitbmxdude989
Member
well i found out that my water is high in trace elements, now up till this week i had bought my water, but now im wondering if boiling the water will work?
Boiling water?
- Thread starter fitbmxdude989
- Start date
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by fitbmxdude989
http:///forum/post/3224681
well i found out that my water is high in trace elements, now up till this week i had bought my water, but now im wondering if boiling the water will work?
Boiling water will help if there is bad bacteria and you want to kill it. However when you boil water you evaporate the liquid and leave the elements of lime, rust and what not.
Unless you use a distilled method which is to use a tube to collect the water that boils out to drip into another holding tank, the now pure water will be in the second tank, and impurities remain in the first..
http:///forum/post/3224681
well i found out that my water is high in trace elements, now up till this week i had bought my water, but now im wondering if boiling the water will work?
Boiling water will help if there is bad bacteria and you want to kill it. However when you boil water you evaporate the liquid and leave the elements of lime, rust and what not.
Unless you use a distilled method which is to use a tube to collect the water that boils out to drip into another holding tank, the now pure water will be in the second tank, and impurities remain in the first..
fitbmxdude989
Member
ok, i dont have problems with lime and rust but we have problems with some other elements and chlorine
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by fitbmxdude989
http:///forum/post/3224699
ok, i dont have problems with lime and rust but we have problems with some other elements and chlorine
For chlorine they make a remover, you just add a few drops. Or you can let the water just sit and the chlorine will release and go away. I don't know what else may be in the water. Like I said, boiling can remove some things but leave other stuff.
If it were me, I would buy my water to be honest with you. That’s what I used to do.
What I do now: I could afford an RO unit but not afford the filters for it (some cost nearly $100.00), my well water was sooo bad, I would go broke changing filters...so I went with Culligan, I rent the unit and for $39.99 a month they keep the filters up for me.
I have a 90g tank and buying water wasn't as bad as hauling the 5g jugs in and out of the house.
http:///forum/post/3224699
ok, i dont have problems with lime and rust but we have problems with some other elements and chlorine
For chlorine they make a remover, you just add a few drops. Or you can let the water just sit and the chlorine will release and go away. I don't know what else may be in the water. Like I said, boiling can remove some things but leave other stuff.
If it were me, I would buy my water to be honest with you. That’s what I used to do.
What I do now: I could afford an RO unit but not afford the filters for it (some cost nearly $100.00), my well water was sooo bad, I would go broke changing filters...so I went with Culligan, I rent the unit and for $39.99 a month they keep the filters up for me.
I have a 90g tank and buying water wasn't as bad as hauling the 5g jugs in and out of the house.
meowzer
Moderator
Originally Posted by fitbmxdude989
http:///forum/post/3224681
well i found out that my water is high in trace elements, now up till this week i had bought my water, but now im wondering if boiling the water will work?
Get a good RO/DI unit......with normal use the filters will last close to a year
My unit was $139.99 and I have had it ONE year, and just replaced the filters for the first time and they cost $39.95
It's a airwaterice unit (Compact 75 GPD Reefkeeper RODI)
I recommend it
http:///forum/post/3224681
well i found out that my water is high in trace elements, now up till this week i had bought my water, but now im wondering if boiling the water will work?
Get a good RO/DI unit......with normal use the filters will last close to a year
My unit was $139.99 and I have had it ONE year, and just replaced the filters for the first time and they cost $39.95
It's a airwaterice unit (Compact 75 GPD Reefkeeper RODI)
I recommend it
fitbmxdude989
Member
ok, are there any other options for the time being?
meowzer
Moderator
Originally Posted by fitbmxdude989
http:///forum/post/3224705
ok, are there any other options for the time being?
Buy the water from Walmart
http:///forum/post/3224705
ok, are there any other options for the time being?
Buy the water from Walmart
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3224704
Get a good RO/DI unit......with normal use the filters will last close to a year
My unit was $139.99 and I have had it ONE year, and just replaced the filters for the first time and they cost $39.95
It's a airwaterice unit (Compact 75 GPD Reefkeeper RODI)
I recommend it
+1 If you have normal water, not the horrible stuff that came out of my pipes.
I have 5 different filters, one of them, the larger first one costs about $96.00, the others range between $20.00 ad $35.00. To change them all at once will cost me almost as much as the unit. I have an industrial unit like what is at Walmart.
http:///forum/post/3224704
Get a good RO/DI unit......with normal use the filters will last close to a year
My unit was $139.99 and I have had it ONE year, and just replaced the filters for the first time and they cost $39.95
It's a airwaterice unit (Compact 75 GPD Reefkeeper RODI)
I recommend it
+1 If you have normal water, not the horrible stuff that came out of my pipes.
I have 5 different filters, one of them, the larger first one costs about $96.00, the others range between $20.00 ad $35.00. To change them all at once will cost me almost as much as the unit. I have an industrial unit like what is at Walmart.
fitbmxdude989
Member
ive been using water from the college, they set up a marine program but right now im snowed in so buying doesnt help
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by fitbmxdude989
http:///forum/post/3224708
ive been using water from the college, they set up a marine program but right now im snowed in so buying doesnt help
Unless your water is as nasty as mine, a small unit will do great. If you must buy your water for now, try Walmart, Ace hardware or a Jewel food store, they all sell RO water. Have some on hand for the future, for now...boil water for top off only and wait on a water change.
http:///forum/post/3224708
ive been using water from the college, they set up a marine program but right now im snowed in so buying doesnt help
Unless your water is as nasty as mine, a small unit will do great. If you must buy your water for now, try Walmart, Ace hardware or a Jewel food store, they all sell RO water. Have some on hand for the future, for now...boil water for top off only and wait on a water change.
fitbmxdude989
Member
ok,
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by fitbmxdude989
http:///forum/post/3224714
ok,
When you ask advice it would help to let us know you are in a jam and not just asking to be asking. Emergency methods are different than everyday advice.
Your own RO unit will help allot in the future, Maybe after the snowy shut in do a water change to make sure you won't have issues with hair algae.
http:///forum/post/3224714
ok,
When you ask advice it would help to let us know you are in a jam and not just asking to be asking. Emergency methods are different than everyday advice.
Your own RO unit will help allot in the future, Maybe after the snowy shut in do a water change to make sure you won't have issues with hair algae.
loopy101
Member
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3224710
Unless your water is as nasty as mine, a small unit will do great. If you must buy your water for now, try Walmart, Ace hardware or a Jewel food store, they all sell RO water. Have some on hand for the future, for now...boil water for top off only and wait on a water change.
Hi not to disagree with you flower but wouldnt boiling the water create a more concentrated sorce of bad water? yes it will kill bacteria but its also getting rid of the good water due to evaporation leaveing the crud in the water that you would be adding to the tank for top offs?
http:///forum/post/3224710
Unless your water is as nasty as mine, a small unit will do great. If you must buy your water for now, try Walmart, Ace hardware or a Jewel food store, they all sell RO water. Have some on hand for the future, for now...boil water for top off only and wait on a water change.
Hi not to disagree with you flower but wouldnt boiling the water create a more concentrated sorce of bad water? yes it will kill bacteria but its also getting rid of the good water due to evaporation leaveing the crud in the water that you would be adding to the tank for top offs?
fitbmxdude989
Member
as far as i know when you boil water alot of the trace elements either chemical disperse or evaporate away, the reason distilled water is made is by running it through a filtered cooling device which alows the water to be in its purest form
chaseter
Member
Boiling water does nothing to the elements in the water. The vapor released from boiling water is pure H2O, everything left in the pot is what extra crap was in the water. When you boil water in a pan and let all the water boil off, only the chemicals will be left in your pan. So, boiling water does nothing but as someone said, kill bacteria...but there is really no bacteria in drinking water due to all the chemicals they put in it (chlorine, fluoride, etc...) The only way to get pure water during boiling is to collect the water evaporated off which is distilling.
So, buy your water premixed at a LFS store, get a RO unit or buy RO water from Walmart, or buy water conditioners to add to your water.
So, buy your water premixed at a LFS store, get a RO unit or buy RO water from Walmart, or buy water conditioners to add to your water.
pezenfuego
Active Member
Originally Posted by chaseter
http:///forum/post/3224867
Boiling water does nothing to the elements in the water. The vapor released from boiling water is pure H2O, everything left in the pot is what extra crap was in the water. When you boil water in a pan and let all the water boil off, only the chemicals will be left in your pan. So, boiling water does nothing but as someone said, kill bacteria...but there is really no bacteria in drinking water due to all the chemicals they put in it (chlorine, fluoride, etc...) The only way to get pure water during boiling is to collect the water evaporated off which is distilling.
So, buy your water premixed at a LFS store, get a RO unit or buy RO water from Walmart, or buy water conditioners to add to your water.
So a water and gasoline mixture would leave you with pure gasoline upon evaporation?
Uh...no. As we all know gas is more volatile than water.
You will not always get pure water upon distillation. It has to do with what is in the source water. Although, in this case you're right. The trace elements will stay behind upon boiling the water.
I just thought I'd make a point.
Boiling is a good purification technique, but it is used to kill life and not to remove chemicals.
http:///forum/post/3224867
Boiling water does nothing to the elements in the water. The vapor released from boiling water is pure H2O, everything left in the pot is what extra crap was in the water. When you boil water in a pan and let all the water boil off, only the chemicals will be left in your pan. So, boiling water does nothing but as someone said, kill bacteria...but there is really no bacteria in drinking water due to all the chemicals they put in it (chlorine, fluoride, etc...) The only way to get pure water during boiling is to collect the water evaporated off which is distilling.
So, buy your water premixed at a LFS store, get a RO unit or buy RO water from Walmart, or buy water conditioners to add to your water.
So a water and gasoline mixture would leave you with pure gasoline upon evaporation?
Uh...no. As we all know gas is more volatile than water.
You will not always get pure water upon distillation. It has to do with what is in the source water. Although, in this case you're right. The trace elements will stay behind upon boiling the water.
I just thought I'd make a point.
Boiling is a good purification technique, but it is used to kill life and not to remove chemicals.
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by loopy101
http:///forum/post/3224718
Hi not to disagree with you flower but wouldnt boiling the water create a more concentrated sorce of bad water? yes it will kill bacteria but its also getting rid of the good water due to evaporation leaveing the crud in the water that you would be adding to the tank for top offs?
Just got home from work this morning...
To get rid of chlorine a light boiling will help, the OP is stuck and snowed in. (I originally thought he just wanted a cheap way to get water) For some top off water I think boiling the water first will help, it is better than letting the SG climb too high, and plain tap from the spigot could be toxic with chlorine....I also told him to do a water change after all is open and he can get to good water, to counteract any elements that was introduced.
Do you think I gave bad advice? What do you suggest? I doubt he has chlorine remover on hand, he is snowed in and must use whatever is already in the house, I did say if he can let the water just sit, the chlorine will go away over a day or two, but he may not have that much time for a top off.
bang guy
Moderator
In an emergency a small amount of chlorine is harmless. Be careful though if your water authority uses chloramine, it's a bit longer lived and the added ammonia can have an effect. Pouring the water through GAC will do a lot more good than boiling it will.
IMO every reefkeeper should have a sealed bag of GAC on hand for emergencies.
IMO every reefkeeper should have a sealed bag of GAC on hand for emergencies.
beaslbob
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by fitbmxdude989
http:///forum/post/3224705
ok, are there any other options for the time being?
Macro algaes will remove heavy metals like copper. Then by harvesting the macros you remove those from the system.
Are you actually having problems or just worried about using tap water?
my .02
http:///forum/post/3224705
ok, are there any other options for the time being?
Macro algaes will remove heavy metals like copper. Then by harvesting the macros you remove those from the system.
Are you actually having problems or just worried about using tap water?
my .02
fitbmxdude989
Member
im just worried about tap water i usually keep some of the water from the college on hand but i did get the chance to resuply