can you feed SW fish canned tuna?

btldreef

btldreef

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Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/381661/can-you-feed-sw-fish-canned-tuna#post_3326222
oh yea there is. Wayner and burrito are on my ignore list and wont come off it. I have no time for the moronicness of those imbiciles. I moved out of tenneessee to get away from that. Atleast here I dont have to move. All I have to do is click ignore.
LOL, I actually just took Wayner off my ignore list. He's been asking some valid questions lately and actually listening to advice, unlike in the past. Burrito on the other hand, well yeah, that's an ignore.
 
aquaknight

aquaknight

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The first thing is that canned tuna is cooked. Basic principle in saltwater fish food, is to only use raw foods (that aren't spoiled obviously). First, any cooking process, removes some of the nutrients from the food. Second, and this has been stated a couple times, there's no way to tell exactly how your tuna cooked, and what additives, preservatives, or enhancers, have been added to it.


The other thing, tuna, like all 'red meat' fish, are excessively high in fats. Some like Omega-3's are good for humans, but too much saturated fat, is not a good thing for saltwater fish (well, our aquarium saltwater fish). This is the exact reason you're not suppose to feed Rosy Reds, and other freshwater feeder fish to marine fish. As they are also excessively high in saturated fats, which can lead to fatty liver disease, and other health problems that plague some of our predator fish.




Fish (3oz)



Saturated Fat (g)




Total Fat (g)








Sea Bass



0.6g




2.2g








Sea Trout



0.9g




3.1g








Snapper



0.2g




1.1g








Swordfish



1.2g




4.4g






Tuna, bluefin



1.1g




4.2g


r>




Tuna, canned in oil



1.4g




6.9g








Tuna, canned in water



0.7g




2.5g








Salmon, pink, canned



1.3g




5.1g




http://www.annecollins.com/dietary-fat/fish-fat.htm
Take a look at the chart above and look at the two things I mentioned. Compare the two typical reef fish (Sea Bass and Snapper) to Tuna. Also notice the loss canned tuna suffers from the cooking process.
BTW, one post saying "it ok," doesn't make it so. I'm sure Bang's post was contrived from the fact the only thing on the label of canned tuna in water, is well, tuna and water. That doesn't mean that tuna is a nutritionally smart food to feed your marine fish, a significant percentage of the time. On that note, I did feed tuna to some of predator fish. Raw tuna steaks from the grocer's, that I slice strips off and feed. This is only done on occasion, a few times every couple of months.
 
king_neptune

king_neptune

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And no, absolutly not. It can be done for a novalty...heck, I seen people put Mcdonalds in the tank becuase the fish like it.
They will eat it, but you will lead to kidney and liver problems if you try to feed canned tuna over a length of time.
 
wayner

wayner

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well thanks for the strait forward repies (to the people that actually provided them), but the question is answered and I will never feed my fish tuna. I actually changed my tank and have 2 different fish but I will probably hold off on that for another thread.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by wayner http:///forum/thread/381661/can-you-feed-sw-fish-canned-tuna/20#post_3326442
well thanks for the strait forward repies (to the people that actually provided them), but the question is answered and I will never feed my fish tuna. I actually changed my tank and have 2 different fish but I will probably hold off on that for another thread.
One of the reasons I stopped replying to you is your sarcasm....SEE THE RED BOLD....was that necessary....why not just say thank you....
 
wayner

wayner

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Alot of people on this forum like to give advise with a side of sarcasm so I like to do the same thing. Stop crying, ignore ALLLL youuuu wanntttt :)


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flower

flower

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Originally Posted by wayner http:///forum/thread/381661/can-you-feed-sw-fish-canned-tuna/20#post_3326442
well thanks for the strait forward repies (to the people that actually provided them), but the question is answered and I will never feed my fish tuna. I actually changed my tank and have 2 different fish but I will probably hold off on that for another thread.

wayner, you have been very obstinate from the very first post. You will ask advice then ignor it and actually try to make everyone feel stupid for the advice given because you come off with the attitude that you knew better all along and was just testing us. Then you go off and do your own thing, and even when you do take advice, you turn it around like we were mean to you.
You remind me of my son Nick who has ADHD I would say HE suffers with it but to be honest WE suffer, he has no idea why he makes people mad at him. He believes it's everyone around him. He is really a very happy person. He has convinced himself that folks just loose it for stupid reasons and he has learned to ignor them. They make medicine but he thinks he is too smart to need anything like that. He grew up to be a telemarketer...the perfect job for him, he makes really good money at it.
I am not being sarcastic, or snooty. I'm telling you... and I know I'm talking to a wall, that's part of the affliction....there is help out there. It is called Ritalin (spelling?) talk to your doctor about it. Nobody on this site is your enemy, we are just frustrated. Nothing would make us happier than to see your fish tank thrive.
 
wayner

wayner

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to be honest, i didnt even read your whole post being I seen it was one of those type of post people write just to make themselve feel better. this is one of them threads you let die down because the question has already been answered. Try not to keep bringing it back with worthless post. Other newcommers do not what to see post that have no relativity to the original question asked.
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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I am leery of the canned tuna, in water or not. Perhaps we can get some stats on the preservatives added? Surely it is NOT just tuna and water or it would go bad in two days...
Also members, please remember to report anything that may be troublesome and let us handle it before it becomes a real issue :)
 
bang guy

bang guy

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I've never seen a can of tuna with preservatives. Some of the flavored pouched tuna have a large list of ingredients so I wouldn't suggest them but if the only ingredients are Tuna and water it's perfectly fine. The Tuna is sterilized during the canning process with heat. It will stay sterile as long as the can is sealed so no preservatives are needed. I don't see any issue with feeding cooked tuna, I don't understand the controversy.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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* 1 (7 ounce) can white tuna, drained and flaked
* 6 tablespoons mayonnaise or salad dressing
* 1 tablespoon Parmesan cheese
* 3 tablespoons sweet pickle relish
* 1/8 teaspoon dried minced onion flakes
* 1/4 teaspoon curry powder
* 1 tablespoon dried parsley
* 1 teaspoon dried dill weed
* 1 pinch garlic powder
Directions
1. In a medium bowl, stir together the tuna, mayonnaise, Parmesan cheese, and onion flakes. Season with curry powder, parsley, dill and garlic powder. Mix well and serve with crackers or on a sandwich.
if your fish dont like it you have a hell of a lunch with a little white wine
feed to your fish at your own risk
 
btldreef

btldreef

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///forum/thread/381661/can-you-feed-sw-fish-canned-tuna/20#post_3328310
I've never seen a can of tuna with preservatives. Some of the flavored pouched tuna have a large list of ingredients so I wouldn't suggest them but if the only ingredients are Tuna and water it's perfectly fine. The Tuna is sterilized during the canning process with heat. It will stay sterile as long as the can is sealed so no preservatives are needed. I don't see any issue with feeding cooked tuna, I don't understand the controversy.
My issue isn't the tuna itself, it's the lining of the can that it is put into.
 
bang guy

bang guy

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Originally Posted by BTLDreef http:///forum/thread/381661/can-you-feed-sw-fish-canned-tuna/20#post_3328573
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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///forum/thread/381661/can-you-feed-sw-fish-canned-tuna/20#post_3328310
I've never seen a can of tuna with preservatives. Some of the flavored pouched tuna have a large list of ingredients so I wouldn't suggest them but if the only ingredients are Tuna and water it's perfectly fine. The Tuna is sterilized during the canning process with heat. It will stay sterile as long as the can is sealed so no preservatives are needed. I don't see any issue with feeding cooked tuna, I don't understand the controversy.
My issue isn't the tuna itself, it's the lining of the can that it is put into.
That is reasonable. I have no doubt that tin coated steel will leak some amount of tin into the food. I have doubts that it's a significant amount but that is plausible.
What are you thoughts on frozen cubed foods from plastic containers and flaked fish food oven dried on metal sheets?
 
btldreef

btldreef

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///forum/thread/381661/can-you-feed-sw-fish-canned-tuna/20#post_3328589
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Originally Posted by BTLDreef http:///forum/thread/381661/can-you-feed-sw-fish-canned-tuna/20#post_3328573
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///forum/thread/381661/can-you-feed-sw-fish-canned-tuna/20#post_3328310
I've never seen a can of tuna with preservatives. Some of the flavored pouched tuna have a large list of ingredients so I wouldn't suggest them but if the only ingredients are Tuna and water it's perfectly fine. The Tuna is sterilized during the canning process with heat. It will stay sterile as long as the can is sealed so no preservatives are needed. I don't see any issue with feeding cooked tuna, I don't understand the controversy.
My issue isn't the tuna itself, it's the lining of the can that it is put into.
That is reasonable. I have no doubt that tin coated steel will leak some amount of tin into the food. I have doubts that it's a significant amount but that is plausible.
What are you thoughts on frozen cubed foods from plastic containers and flaked fish food oven dried on metal sheets?
I do use frozen food, and I try to use companies that do no seal the cubes with metal foil that you have to push through to get the food out with exception of San Francisco Bay Brand products, because well, I just really like them for some reason. I don't use any dried flake food. I've yet to own a fish that will eat flake or pellets and just found them to not be so great.
 
wayner

wayner

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thought this thread died down, but i just tried tonight to give my trigger and tang a small piece of tuna strait from the can just to try it out and both of them did no eat it. It does get me irritated tho how I give them frozen uncooked shrimp or frozen my sis shrimp they eat it and constantly spit it out.
 
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