Did you read how PETA is urging Ben & Jerrys to make their Ice Cream with-

jdl

Member
Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2767884
im 32 and still drink milk along with alot of other ADULT creature? Milk as plenty of value.
a tribe??? i'm sure they are in the best of health to begin with.
name one other species that drinks milk as an adult (sorry i used the word creature instead of species)? I am not defending any peta nuts, but milk isnt good for you past youth. Drink it if you want, was just showing that no other species drinks it, because there is a reason.
 

alyssia

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Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2768246
ok really whats so funny about my avatar? Its just the waether man talking about the sever weather that was heading to the east cost. God i wish i knew

Boy did I miss the news that night.....
 

cowfishrule

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i dont eat ben and jerrys, so i really dont care what they do.
personally, imo, BJ should either blatently ignore them or tell them to shove.
"we have no desire to pursue human milk as an ingredient" is all they need to say.
its because they make the news that these loons continue to do what they
do.
 
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alexmir

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I dont see how anyone that is a member of PETA, vegan, or vegetarian could have a fish tank. they are taking animals out of the ocean and putting them in a glass box, and they are also contributing to a business where ALOT of the livestock shipped from collectors dies on the way to the store. Seems hypocritical.
 

jdl

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I dont see how anyone that is a member of PETA, vegan, or vegetarian could have a fish tank. they are taking animals out of the ocean and putting them in a glass box, and they are also contributing to a business where ALOT of the livestock shipped from collectors dies on the way to the store. Seems hypocritical.

Not all vegatarians are treehugging animal lover PETA followers.
 

hlcroghan

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Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2768241
Your friend who thinks eating meat should be illegal, is suffering from malnourishment and getting a little loopy. Sorry, but people like that give me great joy to watch as I eat a bloody burger in front of them as I sadistically lick the dripping runny blood off my fingers and ever so quietly give a faint moo as I bite into the burger.
Okay, just like you have your opinions, she has hers and that is a little bit insensitive. Animals can definitely feel pain and that is okay if that bothers some people and that they don't want to give money to people who choose to slaughter millions of animals each year. *Disclaimer* I am not saying that eating meat is wrong, that you can't wear leather, or any such thing. I do all of those things.
On the other note, to say that someone who doesn't eat meat has malnutrition is silly. There is tons of research that says that it is not only easier and better for you but better for the environment to get your protein from plant sources. It costs less and produces a lot less waste. It lowers cholesterol and heart disease and is directly related to reducing your chances of getting cancer. I do think that there is nothing wrong in reducing your intake of animal related protein sources or removing them all together.
 

keebler

Member
Originally Posted by JDL
http:///forum/post/2768607
Not all vegatarians are treehugging animal lover PETA followers.

I have a friend who is a vegetarian and he isn't into animal rights. He is only a vegetarian because he chooses to be a healtier individual and doesn't like the taste of meat. Oh, yeah, he hunts and donates the meat occasionally. I am still prochoice for dogfighting. Some dogfighting is bad, but not all. That's like saying that all Muslims are terrible people. Some dogfighting is harmless to animals and is enjoyable for them.
 

sharkbait9

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Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2768638
Okay, just like you have your opinions, she has hers and that is a little bit insensitive.
Ok, I’m going to break it down for you and anyone else.
Yes you are right I have my opinion and your friend has hers. That’s is far as it should go. You don’t like my insensitivity that’s ok its called life. Your not going to always like how someone else feels just as someone is not going to like how you feel. Stick to your guns about it, don’t feel you need to throw up an asterisk or a disclaimer and be politically correct or non confrontational about a subject. Say what you want and be proud about how you feel. But for some nut jobs that feel eating meat should be illegal shows the mentality and extreme thinking. NOW if your friend feels that way cool who am I to say or tell or do anything about her to feel that way, that’s her opinion. I do however have a problem when that opinion becomes a focal point and then manifest itself to becomes an agenda in a group of once everyday citizen to a group of corn nuts and that feel they have a right to asses my way of living and try and change my way of life. If anyone doesn’t want to eat meat by all means don’t eat meat, but don’t get on a soap box and ramble on about it.
Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2768638
Animals can definitely feel pain and that is okay if that bothers some people and that they don't want to give money to people who choose to slaughter millions of animals each year.
Hhmm uum yeah they do. Plants might not have pain receptors like animals but pick a leaf off a plant and it reacts. Is it the same? I don’t know, do I really care? not really. Veggies are a side dish always have been always will be.
Thank god for the people who chose to make money off the blood of that prime rib, chicken fillet or the pork tenderloin. They make my life easier not having to gut and clean the animal before I cook it.
Mr. Perdue and the slaughter houses I salute you, good sirs.

Originally Posted by hlcroghan

http:///forum/post/2768638
*Disclaimer* I am not saying that eating meat is wrong, that you can't wear leather, or any such thing. I do all of those things.
OK. So your not a hypocrite and pass judgment on others.


Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2768638
On the other note, to say that someone who doesn't eat meat has malnutrition is silly.
Yeah, think so? I have had to help plenty of these nuts who feel they want to bare the cross of saving an animal and not eat them. Then crawl into the emergency room and DR offices because they thought that eating sprouts and grass was good for them and that’s all they needed. Skin completion is pale, scaly, clammy, oily, bags under the eyes, loss of muscle definition. Someone wants to bare that cross knock your self out, have at it. Along with all the sprouts, grass, tofu and other vegetation they need to chock down they have to pump them selves full of pil ls to gain the necessary vitamins and minerals. When I can eat a piece of meat/poultry and a side dish of vegetables for a meal and not really have to pump pil ls down my throat to fulfill the lack of vitamins and minerals and proteins that I receive from an animal guess what I’ll go with the animal.
Originally Posted by hlcroghan

http:///forum/post/2768638
There is tons of research that says that it is not only easier and better for you but better for the environment to get your protein from plant sources. It costs less and produces a lot less waste.
First off. When it comes to research, who does the research? Who paid for the research? What is the researcher getting out of it. For every piece of research that shows all the “good” of not eating meat there is a piece that goes against vegetarian.
Its quite simple. Why does anyone feel that evolution is wrong? We have canine teeth to tear apart or food and flat molars to chew our food with then I guess some where down the line flesh became a form of food.
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by hlcroghan http:///forum/post/2768638
On the other note, to say that someone who doesn't eat meat has malnutrition is silly. There is tons of research that says that it is not only easier and better for you but better for the environment to get your protein from plant sources. It costs less and produces a lot less waste. It lowers cholesterol and heart disease and is directly related to reducing your chances of getting cancer. I do think that there is nothing wrong in reducing your intake of animal related protein sources or removing them all together.
And shrinks your brain....
 

hlcroghan

Active Member
Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2768886
Ok, I’m going to break it down for you and anyone else.
Yes you are right I have my opinion and your friend has hers. That’s is far as it should go. You don’t like my insensitivity that’s ok its called life. Your not going to always like how someone else feels just as someone is not going to like how you feel. Stick to your guns about it, don’t feel you need to throw up an asterisk or a disclaimer and be politically correct or non confrontational about a subject. Say what you want and be proud about how you feel. But for some nut jobs that feel eating meat should be illegal shows the mentality and extreme thinking. NOW if your friend feels that way cool who am I to say or tell or do anything about her to feel that way, that’s her opinion. I do however have a problem when that opinion becomes a focal point and then manifest itself to becomes an agenda in a group of once everyday citizen to a group of corn nuts and that feel they have a right to asses my way of living and try and change my way of life. If anyone doesn’t want to eat meat by all means don’t eat meat, but don’t get on a soap box and ramble on about it.
Hhmm uum yeah they do. Plants might not have pain receptors like animals but pick a leaf off a plant and it reacts. Is it the same? I don’t know, do I really care? not really. Veggies are a side dish always have been always will be.
Thank god for the people who chose to make money off the blood of that prime rib, chicken fillet or the pork tenderloin. They make my life easier not having to gut and clean the animal before I cook it.
Mr. Perdue and the slaughter houses I salute you, good sirs.

OK. So your not a hypocrite and pass judgment on others.

Yeah, think so? I have had to help plenty of these nuts who feel they want to bare the cross of saving an animal and not eat them. Then crawl into the emergency room and DR offices because they thought that eating sprouts and grass was good for them and that’s all they needed. Skin completion is pale, scaly, clammy, oily, bags under the eyes, loss of muscle definition. Someone wants to bare that cross knock your self out, have at it. Along with all the sprouts, grass, tofu and other vegetation they need to chock down they have to pump them selves full of pil ls to gain the necessary vitamins and minerals. When I can eat a piece of meat/poultry and a side dish of vegetables for a meal and not really have to pump pil ls down my throat to fulfill the lack of vitamins and minerals and proteins that I receive from an animal guess what I’ll go with the animal.
First off. When it comes to research, who does the research? Who paid for the research? What is the researcher getting out of it. For every piece of research that shows all the “good” of not eating meat there is a piece that goes against vegetarian.
Its quite simple. Why does anyone feel that evolution is wrong? We have canine teeth to tear apart or food and flat molars to chew our food with then I guess some where down the line flesh became a form of food.
It is not called life. You can express your opinions without being caustic and rude to someone else. You saying that you like to whisper moo as you bite into your bloody burger to someone who doesn't like to slaughter animals is rude. You can say the same thing by saying that you like to eat burgers and support the slaughter of animals for food. As for vegetarians, the ones who have malnutrition probably are not taking care of themselves properly. I guarantee there are a whole lot more morbidly obese people who are on the verge of having a heart attack from shoveling gobs of fast food and crap into their mouths for years. Eat to live, don't live to eat.
You have not read what I have written in the pasts posts. I definitely did not pass judgement on anyone on either side, vegetarian or meat eating. I said that the amount of animals that they slaughter is getting out of hand. It is bad for the environment and really expensive. I am not a vegetarian but I have cut down some on my intake of meats just simply because I feel better for it. I wouldn't reduce it all together but that is my personal choice. I respect yours but not in the way you are expressing it here. All I am asking is that you understand and rephrase what you are saying a bit.
 

keebler

Member
About that brain shrinkage link-
Researchers found that the hippocampus-the part of the brain that stores memories - was 10% smaller in beer drinkers than those who stuck to wine.
The hippocampus. Isn't that the genus of seahorses? https://www.saltwaterfish.com/
Anyway, vegetarianism does require research and careful dietary planning. You can't just eat your favorite veggies all of the time.
Another topic to bring up, what is your position on the use of animals for pharmaceutical and medical research?
Discuss
 

hlcroghan

Active Member
Originally Posted by Keebler
http:///forum/post/2768957
https://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=256997
Anyway, vegetarianism does require research and careful dietary planning. You can't just eat your favorite veggies all of the time.
Another topic to bring up, what is your position on the use of animals for pharmaceutical and medical research?
Discuss
Geez, you know I don't know about this one. I don't like the thought of torturing some animal for some mundane reason but most of the medical breakthroughs in the recent years were done on animals first. They have made my and everyone else's life better. I guess I don't want to make some rabbit blind just so I can have a full and lush lashes but I really like the fact that I didn't die from smallpox as a child.
 

keebler

Member
Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2768964
Geez, you know I don't know about this one. I don't like the thought of torturing some animal for some mundane reason but most of the medical breakthroughs in the recent years were done on animals first. They have made my and everyone else's life better. I guess I don't want to make some rabbit blind just so I can have a full and lush lashes but I really like the fact that I didn't die from smallpox as a child.
That's the way I am. Pharmaceutical is out, but medical is in. If it takes a trillion dead rats to find a cure to something such as cancer that will save only about a billion now, then it is obviously worth it, besides, it may eradicate the disease and that would save trillions of people to come. Also, animal research saves animals too!
 

stdreb27

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IMO it is Humans before animals every time.
I think we as a society have it upsidedown. As demonstraited by the michael vick thing. The guy fought some dogs, and you had massive outcry, weeks of wall to wall news coverage. Ect.
The mike tyson sexual assault, not a whole lot. A pro ball player beat his wife, a 2 minute story on ESPN.
I know this is tv, but I watch bones, and the stupid Bones looks at all these mutilated dead bodies, mass graves without even a blink. When she walks into a mass grave of dead dogs, she is visibly upset. Don't get it at all.
 

hlcroghan

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2768973
IMO it is Humans before animals every time.
I think we as a society have it upsidedown. As demonstraited by the michael vick thing. The guy fought some dogs, and you had massive outcry, weeks of wall to wall news coverage. Ect.
The mike tyson sexual assault, not a whole lot. A pro ball player beat his wife, a 2 minute story on ESPN.
I know this is tv, but I watch bones, and the stupid Bones looks at all these mutilated dead bodies, mass graves without even a blink. When she walks into a mass grave of dead dogs, she is visibly upset. Don't get it at all.
I think people get that way more often because animals as a general rule are more helpless and do not have control over what happens to them. Kind of the same reason when a child is hurt, kidnapped, assaulted in any way, people get a lot more upset than when an adult is. At least that would be my theory on it.
 

keebler

Member
Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2768978
I think people get that way more often because animals as a general rule are more helpless and do not have control over what happens to them. Kind of the same reason when a child is hurt, kidnapped, assaulted in any way, people get a lot more upset than when an adult is. At least that would be my theory on it.
It is also because when someone gets killed, they probably did something to deserve it, even just a little. When an animal gets killed, they didn't do anything to deserve it, except taste good!
 

hlcroghan

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Originally Posted by Keebler
http:///forum/post/2768984
It is also because when someone gets killed, they probably did something to deserve it, even just a little. When an animal gets killed, they didn't do anything to deserve it, except taste good!
prime rib, drool. It reminds me that I need to go to Outback tonight. And before anyone says I am a hypocrite, I never said I was a vegetarian (one more time) lol. I really love steak sometimes. I agree on this.
 

bigarn

Active Member
Originally Posted by Keebler
http:///forum/post/2768984
It is also because when someone gets killed, they probably did something to deserve it, even just a little. When an animal gets killed, they didn't do anything to deserve it, except taste good!
nice ....
 

sharkbait9

Active Member
Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2768917
It is not called life. You can express your opinions without being caustic and rude to someone else. You saying that you like to whisper moo as you bite into your bloody burger to someone who doesn't like to slaughter animals is rude.
Yes, right there, that’s my point. IT IS LIFE. PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE CAUSTIC AND RUDE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT, BUT PEOPLE ARE RUDE AND CAUSTIC IN THIS WORLD.
That’s called life. Not this politically correct nonsense and fluffy cloud people want to live on and no ones feelings get hurt and everyone lives happy and our kids never have to know what it feels like to lose a game or come in last place and go home empty handed. God those people alone will give a heart failure not the red meat I eat.
Now as to me and the moo sounds, You god da** right I will make those sounds when some hippy gives me a dirty look when they sit down across from me with their salad works salad while I eat a big fat juicy pile dead animal on a bun. Yet they feel it necessary to turn their nose up to me and everyone else over a burger, go pound salt.
I’m not talk about fast food restaurants either, That’s not even meat. I don’t know what it is they are passing off as meat but its not meat.
I won’t even bother to argue that point about the fat slobs who stuff their gullets with fast food. Or force their kids to stuff their mouths with that garbage instead of cooking a real meal. or the fact that those slobs can’t even be bothered to teach their kids about healthy eating or the four basic food groups and that vegetables are a side dish not a main dish.
As to the environment and slaughter houses being bad and expensive???? I can afford it, so no fuss with that. Being bad for the environment? please enlighten me, cause animals die all the time. They rot and meld into the ground around them.
I said you don’t pass judgment, I never said you did.
I understand your stand point and everyone else and appreciate the fact that people will say how they feel. Like I said have your opinion and stick to your guns and be vocal about it. Just don’t try and thrust your opinions down people throats if they don’t agree or tell them that the tone they use is bothersome, rude or caustic. I don’t care who you are, say what you want and say how you mean it. I was raised to have thick skin, I don’t need to cry when my feeling get hurt or someone does not agree with me.
 

sharkbait9

Active Member
Originally Posted by Keebler
http:///forum/post/2768972
That's the way I am. Pharmaceutical is out, but medical is in. If it takes a trillion dead rats to find a cure to something such as cancer that will save only about a billion now, then it is obviously worth it, besides, it may eradicate the disease and that would save trillions of people to come. Also, animal research saves animals too!

I could not care if was for zit cream.
 
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