Did you read how PETA is urging Ben & Jerrys to make their Ice Cream with-

sharkbait9

sharkbait9

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Originally Posted by Keebler
http:///forum/post/2768984
It is also because when someone gets killed, they probably did something to deserve it, even just a little. When an animal gets killed, they didn't do anything to deserve it, except taste good!
come on bigarn.... you have to agree with this.
 
sharkbait9

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Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2768988
prime rib, drool. It reminds me that I need to go to Outback tonight. And before anyone says I am a hypocrite, I never said I was a vegetarian (one more time) lol. I really love steak sometimes. I agree on this.
outback
good choice you hypocrite
im joking geez im joking just busting your chops relaxe
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by JDL
http:///forum/post/2768282
name one other species that drinks milk as an adult (sorry i used the word creature instead of species)? I am not defending any peta nuts, but milk isnt good for you past youth. Drink it if you want, was just showing that no other species drinks it, because there is a reason.

I love this argument. Based off that thesis, we should all eat our own crap and eat our dead as well (as long as they are not diseased). After all, THIS does occur in other animal species, and since they do it (or don't) we should emulate them. So next time you are feeling hungry, ask your neighbor to leave a huge steaming loaf on a plate for you and you will pick it up later for dinner.
 
keebler

keebler

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2769076
animal testing amuses me. We can't use it on an animal, but it is ok to test on a human.

Some people believe that testing on live creatures isn't necessary period. Of course those people are complete morons in my opinion, but their standpoint isn't to test on humans.
 
sharkbait9

sharkbait9

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2769139
I love this argument. Based off that thesis, we should all eat our own crap and eat our dead as well (as long as they are not diseased). After all, THIS does occur in other animal species, and since they do it (or don't) we should emulate them. So next time you are feeling hungry, ask your neighbor to leave a huge steaming loaf on a plate for you and you will pick it up later for dinner.

damn i was getting into this post and then got to the end spit my gatorade all over the screen . Huge steaming loaf on a plate:laughing
 
keebler

keebler

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2769139
I love this argument. Based off that thesis, we should all eat our own crap and eat our dead as well (as long as they are not diseased). After all, THIS does occur in other animal species, and since they do it (or don't) we should emulate them. So next time you are feeling hungry, ask your neighbor to leave a huge steaming loaf on a plate for you and you will pick it up later for dinner.

I thought it was funny, but that wasn't his point. By all means drink milk if you want to and you like it, but don't drink it because you think it is healthy for you. Animals eat ---- because they are dumb as ---- and they don't deserve the rights of humans.
 
nina&noah

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Originally Posted by JDL
http:///forum/post/2768282
name one other species that drinks milk as an adult (sorry i used the word creature instead of species)? I am not defending any peta nuts, but milk isnt good for you past youth. Drink it if you want, was just showing that no other species drinks it, because there is a reason.
Actually, if you want to use that arguement, we are the only species that drinks another species milk at all. This means that everyone should be feeding their youth human breastmilk. I myself am not that extreme. I breastfed my little one for 14 months and now he is on organic grassfed milk. The cows are free, and are not over pumped. Since I pumped for my little one I can speak for the cow and say that it is not a fun experience. I can only imagine if I were pumped full of hormones and was constantly engorged. Talk about pain!!!
Now here is an interesting story...
Did you know that about a year ago there was a woman who was selling her breastmilk on *bay! She was making a killing for quite some time until someone from the la leche league message board reported her. I actually saw her post. I thought it was pretty funny. Who would buy another woman's milk to feed their child? How do you know that the woman isn't selling milk to pay for drugs?
 
keebler

keebler

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Originally Posted by nina&noah
http:///forum/post/2769196
Actually, if you want to use that arguement, we are the only species that drinks another species milk at all. This means that everyone should be feeding their youth human breastmilk. I myself am not that extreme. I breastfed my little one for 14 months and now he is on organic grassfed milk. The cows are free, and are not over pumped. Since I pumped for my little one I can speak for the cow and say that it is not a fun experience. I can only imagine if I were pumped full of hormones and was constantly engorged. Talk about pain!!!
Now here is an interesting story...
Did you know that about a year ago there was a woman who was selling her breastmilk on *bay! She was making a killing for quite some time until someone from the la leche league message board reported her. I actually saw her post. I thought it was pretty funny. Who would buy another woman's milk to feed their child? How do you know that the woman isn't selling milk to pay for drugs.

That is interesting. Some people believe that the hormones that are pumped into cows are causing our female youth to reach puberty sooner. Thoughts?
Discuss.
 
nina&noah

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I personally think that this could be the case, but even if it isn't...
1. It has been reported that the FDA has raised the amount of puss that is allowed in our milk. This is caused by the cows developing mastisis from the constant engorgement the hormones cause.
2. Why would you want to feed a baby anything that has hormones in it?
I would rather be safe than sorry.
 
keebler

keebler

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Originally Posted by nina&noah
http:///forum/post/2769217
I personally think that this could be the case, but even if it isn't...
1. It has been reported that the FDA has raised the amount of puss that is allowed in our milk. This is caused by the cows developing mastisis from the constant engorgement the hormones cause.
2. Why would you want to feed a baby anything that has hormones in it?
I would rather be safe than sorry.

Anyone else?
 
miaheatlvr

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Originally Posted by Pumper
http:///forum/post/2769275
Peta sucks. For every animal they claim to save, I will eat five.
The only problem with PETA is that they are getting more and more radical violent ala the A.L.F. who are a documented TERRORIST ORGANIZATION!

I love my MEAT, I Love my Veal Parmigiana Sandwich, I respect the Right of PETA to exist and say what they say, but I dont always agree with their actions. BUT I draw the line when they cross over to side of persuasion or telling how to live my life and what I can and cannot eat.
 
jdl

jdl

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2769139
I love this argument. Based off that thesis, we should all eat our own crap and eat our dead as well (as long as they are not diseased). After all, THIS does occur in other animal species, and since they do it (or don't) we should emulate them. So next time you are feeling hungry, ask your neighbor to leave a huge steaming loaf on a plate for you and you will pick it up later for dinner.

do i really need to explain this to you? You are smarter then your post, so i'll figure you were just grumpy about something else.
That's the way I am. Pharmaceutical is out, but medical is in. If it takes a trillion dead rats to find a cure to something such as cancer that will save only about a billion now, then it is obviously worth it, besides, it may eradicate the disease and that would save trillions of people to come. Also, animal research saves animals too!
You realize rats are only a small portion of animal testing. Beagles are sadly used most often when testing things on dogs.
and if my statements seem like i am a treehugger vegetarian, i am not. I eat ice cream, hunt, fish, and eat meat. I just realize milk IS bad for you and eat less meat these days because it is also bad for you compared to alternatives. I also dont eat much, if any processed food (yeah i know ice cream)
 
geridoc

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Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2767913
Lactose intolerance was not a real problem till the hormones and antibiotics were introduce to the cows and then added to the milk. The more we try to prevent problems the more we add them or even create problems for our selves.
Lactose intolerance is a genetic condition that has evolved several times throughout human history, and has nothing to do with antibiotics and milk, which are a very recent combination.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by JDL
http:///forum/post/2769323
do i really need to explain this to you? You are smarter then your post, so i'll figure you were just grumpy about something else.
It was meant more as a joke, but I feel comparing what is done in nature by other animals is a faulty reasoning, thus my comments. However I do agree with your point about milk, just didn't gree with how it was presented..lol
And yes, this bailout has me in a very bad mood.
 
hlcroghan

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Originally Posted by nina&noah
http:///forum/post/2769217
I personally think that this could be the case, but even if it isn't...
1. It has been reported that the FDA has raised the amount of puss that is allowed in our milk. This is caused by the cows developing mastisis from the constant engorgement the hormones cause.
2. Why would you want to feed a baby anything that has hormones in it?
I would rather be safe than sorry.
No thank you. If I had known what I know now, 6 years ago, my kids would have been on soy milk too. Puss and antibiotics?? It is all pretty gross if you ask me. The same with meat in general. You can buy free range antibiotic-less meat and feed that to your family just the same as trotting down to albertsons and getting some cow that was jammed full of drugs to make it grow twice as fast and was tortured and mutilated right before it died instead of being killed in a quick humane matter. I mean, c'mon. To all the hunters out there, if you were hunting deer, would you poke with an electrical prod, make it stand in a cattle cart for days for transport, dump it in scalding hot water or poke it in the neck to make it bleed out BEFORE it died?? No. You kill it in the most humane way possible and clean and get it ready to freeze and eat or sell or whatever.
Do you really think all that pain and fear that the animal has before it dies doesn't get released as chemicals from the brain into the body of the animal? Adrenaline, among many others, gets release anytime a mammal is in danger or fear. You are ingesting that when you eat an animal that was treated in this way. The post that said happy animals= better meat is very very true. The better treated the animals were and the less suffering they experience before they died makes for a better tasting steak. It is more flavorful, less tough, etc. Try switching and see if you don't notice the difference. This is just what I think. Better tasting meat should make all you meatatarians happy........lol.
 
keebler

keebler

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Originally Posted by JDL
http:///forum/post/2769323
You realize rats are only a small portion of animal testing. Beagles are sadly used most often when testing things on dogs.

Yes, I am aware of this I was using rats as an example, they just popped into my head.
 
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