Elegence Coral- Why expert only ?

sharkbait9

Active Member
I have always heard it was collection techniques that did the damage.
If the collector was harsh or hammered it off the reef to hard or just threw them in a collection bag filled with other corals.
Their flesh is very delicate and they stress out easy, that what I’m told
 

sharkbait9

Active Member
Originally Posted by SH2000
I'm so bummed I bought it. I mean it still looks good got it Sat, The guy at the store straight out lied to me ...I guess you cant trust these LFS.Hopefully He's lying and maybe It's not a real elegence coral. You know what's sad I dealt with one of the owners. UNBELIVEABLE!!!

Just because someone owns a LFS don't mean they know the hobby.
Their are two stores in my are that are proof of this, they could not tell you clown from a tang.
That’s the gods honest truth, scary that people believe the crap that spews out of their mouth. Don’t feel bad we are always lead to believe that people in a industry are authority’s in the subject. As we grown in this hobby half the LFS don’t know crap.
 

reef_dart21

Member
i am thankful i foudn this post today because they had a elegance coral for sale at a lsf store me and it was on a super special for 20 bucks..........i thought about it but in the long run i probably would only suceed at killing it on accident so i left it their........thankyou for the fourums ^_^ instead i got a bubble coral lol
 

wfd1008

Member
i had one, and it suddenly started showing signs of decline. can't remember who it was on here that told me to look for a white crab on it. to make a long story short, after it was 99% dead, i found the white crab
. looked more like a white tick, but whatever it was, it was no bueno. be on the look out.
 

wfd1008

Member
he found his digging into his, and i found mine digging into a different coral after it got done with mine.
 

chilwil84

Active Member
coral magazine had an article a couple issues back on a disorder found in elegence coral. dont remember the details but has nothing to do with any visable animal in the tank but if one without it is stored with one with the disorder the one that previously was healthy dies shrotly after. the mouth gets a puffy look and its all down hill from there. the reason aussie seem not to have the problem as much is australia doesnt allow the importation of coral from certain regions so they dont alway come into contact with an infected elegence. the problem is when they get tio a wholesaler they may or may not get mixed
 

ophiura

Active Member
YOu can probably google "Borneman Elegance" because Eric has been doing some research into them...
 

new2salt1

Member
I have read MORE about this coral than 99% of the people out there. Knowing for some time that I own one of the largest, healthiest specimens on these boards, it sparked my interest greatly, and I have been following the research that is being done. With that said, can we put an end to the "mysterious white crab" theory, and any other theory that claims to have the "true" answer? There are people working on this day and night, and it just sounds stupid and ignorant for some fly-by-nighter to throw out BS and mislead people.
As far as "steering clear" of them, I know of healthy specimens being fragged as we speak. Are we supposed to "steer clear" because of the fear of failure, or because it makes no sense to take this species from the wild?
Because I just dont understand how people suggest we steer clear of ANY aquacultured animals. They don't HAVE to be taken from nature. If these were so easy to keep 15 years ago, and now they are not, there has to be a reason. We wont understand that reason unless more people get there hands on healthy specimens. And the only way to do THAT, is if instead of people "steering clear," people need to get involved and find a way to locate a healthy specimen if they are truly passionate about the species.
Increasing the demand, not "steering clear," is the only way enough people will allocate $$$ towards figuring out this mysterious disease.
I have a link. On this link, you can find out all about the research, and where you can send healthy/sick specimens for research. SWF has some funny rules about competitors, so PM me if you want to follow the research or help out.

 

big

Active Member
Eric had a large article in this months "on-line " magazine. Can't say the link but something like Reefkeeping.......
 

coral keeper

Active Member
Originally Posted by New2Salt1
I have read MORE about this coral than 99% of the people out there. Knowing for some time that I own one of the largest, healthiest specimens on these boards, it sparked my interest greatly, and I have been following the research that is being done. With that said, can we put an end to the "mysterious white crab" theory, and any other theory that claims to have the "true" answer? There are people working on this day and night, and it just sounds stupid and ignorant for some fly-by-nighter to throw out BS and mislead people.
As far as "steering clear" of them, I know of healthy specimens being fragged as we speak. Are we supposed to "steer clear" because of the fear of failure, or because it makes no sense to take this species from the wild?
Because I just dont understand how people suggest we steer clear of ANY aquacultured animals. They don't HAVE to be taken from nature. If these were so easy to keep 15 years ago, and now they are not, there has to be a reason. We wont understand that reason unless more people get there hands on healthy specimens. And the only way to do THAT, is if instead of people "steering clear," people need to get involved and find a way to locate a healthy specimen if they are truly passionate about the species.
Increasing the demand, not "steering clear," is the only way enough people will allocate $$$ towards figuring out this mysterious disease.
I have a link. On this link, you can find out all about the research, and where you can send healthy/sick specimens for research. SWF has some funny rules about competitors, so PM me if you want to follow the research or help out.
How big is it and how many gallons is your tank?
 

ophiura

Active Member
The majority of specimens in this hobby at this time are not aquacultured. Aquacultured specimens would be fine. But this is no where near widely available. So I would, personally, suggest people not purchase an elegance from an LFS at this time, as the survival rate of wild caught specimens has declined dramatically in recent years.
An aquacultured frag? go for it.
Borneman has been collecting unhealthy specimens in the past, again, just google him and elegance coral. There is a whole project on it.
 

new2salt1

Member
Originally Posted by Coral Keeper
How big is it and how many gallons is your tank?
The skeleton is about 7" and at full light, it takes up about 30-40% of my BioCube 14.
 

wfd1008

Member
New2Salt1 said:
I have read MORE about this coral than 99% of the people out there. Knowing for some time that I own one of the largest, healthiest specimens on these boards, it sparked my interest greatly, and I have been following the research that is being done. With that said, can we put an end to the "mysterious white crab" theory, and any other theory that claims to have the "true" answer? There are people working on this day and night, and it just sounds stupid and ignorant for some fly-by-nighter to throw out BS and mislead people.
http://www.ronshimek.com/Animal%20Gr...rustaceans.htm
scroll down to the part where it talks about gall crabs. the forth pic is what what the "white crab" looked like. for you to call someone a fly-by-nighter and what they found in their tank is BS is a sign of someone being arrogant. never was their any attempt to mislead, just help.
 
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