I don't believe in "sick days"...

crimzy

crimzy

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Personally I think it's a bunch of crap. Unless you are completely disabled by some condition, you are not going to feel better at home than you are at work.
In my career, I have never taken a day off because I didn't feel good. Days off, IMO, are OK if you will be out of town or have an important engagement, but because you aren't feeling good... that's silly. Sack up and go to work.
Unfortunately, you generally see the same whiners taking sick days over and over again... and often it is the smokers because their immune system is so jacked up as it is that they are walking around everyday on the verge of serious illness. Ever hear the coughing and hacking of an otherwise "healthy" smoker??? When it's not the smokers, it's generally people who are simply hung over. Is it a coincidence that most sick days come on Mondays?
Unless there is a policy of X number of vacation/sick days per year that are a part of the employee's benefit package, I wouldn't pay anyone for sick days.
My rant for the day. If you disagree then please go tell your boss that you have a runny nose and need to go home to watch soap operas.
 
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dragonzim

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Oh yeah, I'd much rather have someone with the flu in my office so that they can get everyone around them sick as well....
 
crimzy

crimzy

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Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/3023116
Oh yeah, I'd much rather have someone with the flu in my office so that they can get everyone around them sick as well....
Germs are a part of life... things happen. But when someone blows off a day because of the sniffles, (at least in my office), everything gets delayed for a day until they catch up. Let's not suggest that these people are doing a public service by being lazy and unmotivated. Grade school ended a long time ago...
 
flower

flower

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Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/3023114
Personally I think it's a bunch of crap. Unless you are completely disabled by some condition, you are not going to feel better at home than you are at work.
In my career, I have never taken a day off because I didn't feel good. Days off, IMO, are OK if you will be out of town or have an important engagement, but because you aren't feeling good... that's silly. Sack up and go to work.
Unfortunately, you generally see the same whiners taking sick days over and over again... and often it is the smokers because their immune system is so jacked up as it is that they are walking around everyday on the verge of serious illness. Ever hear the coughing and hacking of an otherwise "healthy" smoker??? When it's not the smokers, it's generally people who are simply hung over. Is it a coincidence that most sick days come on Mondays?
Unless there is a policy of X number of vacation/sick days per year that are a part of the employee's benefit package, I wouldn't pay anyone for sick days.
My rant for the day. If you disagree then please go tell your boss that you have a runny nose and need to go home to watch soap operas.


You know what...when you tuff guys get a "cold" or whatever and come to work anyway, you make everyone else sick. Not just you’re fellow workers but their entire families and children too. If you’re sick and you have time coming PLEASE STAY HOME!!!
I can overlook a person who is coming to work sick because they need the money or would lose the job if they laid off...But just to be mister macho...stay home.
I don't care why a persons immune system is weak. The fact is what it is, deal with it.
 
mantisman51

mantisman51

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Crimz, I can go half-way with you. As a Supervisor for a credit card call center, I have seen that attitude alot. Problem is that since I reached my mid-thirties (40 now), when I get the flu or a cold, there are days I can't stand up without falling over. I have gone to work and was vomiting into a waste basket and had to have my wife drive in to town to pick me up and take me home. When I was younger, I could push through anything. But now when I get sick, I can't function. The worst thing is the light-headedness and dizziness that makes it feel like all the blood has rushed out of my head and I am going to pass out. I guess I'm getting old a little young. Well, I'm off to work. I'll catch up this afternoon. Hey, how bout some of you lounge lizzards go to the Q&A boards?
 
crimzy

crimzy

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Hey, I'll admit that I may be a bit closed minded and moody on this rainy Monday. This thread is mostly inspired by one of our paralegals taking ANOTHER sick day, while she puffs on cigs and is probably coughing up a lung. Meanwhile, my work will not get out today...
BTW, when I got my first ever migraine, I had been practicing for about 3 years. I spent a couple hours puking up blood... but if I didn't get to court, my client was going to jail. I took care of my business. My point here is that if your responsibility is important enough then you will do it. Taking sick days just means that you don't care much about what you are doing.
If your kid was getting married, graduating from school, or (G-d forbid), you had a family funeral to go to... I'll bet you'd find a way to make it there. Unfortunately, these people's jobs are not high on their priority list, IMO.
 
egill

egill

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I work in the food industry and I think you'd rather me stay home then to get thousands of people sick. Even worse would be spreading my sick germs to the elderly or someone who's pregant.
 
aquaknight

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Hmmm, Crimz, there certainly is one way to be 'sick' and definitely should have the right to a 'sick day'... Though it involves bad mexican food, and being concealed to the thrown all day....
 
uneverno

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I'm not feeling so well today myself.
I wish I had a job I could call in sick to, but alas, I was outsourced. When I got laid off, I received the 160hrs in "sick" pay I'd accumulated though.
 
flower

flower

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I will agree on the priority list issue... I value my home, my family, my fish tank and my personal time far more than the job.
I work to be able to have the home, feed the family, buy my coral or fish and enjoy my personal time anyway I choose to.
I do not live to work, I work to live. Fortunately my job does not make or break another human being. If a person would be going to jail and they were innocent, I would push to be there for them. If my employment was on the plate I would be half dead before staying home and chance losing it.
Most of us however are replaceable for a day or two, or the work can wait until we get back. It is better to stay home than make others sick.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one. I love Spock.
 
crimzy

crimzy

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Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3023133
If a person would be going to jail and they were innocent, I would push to be there for them.
Well my client was DEFINITELY not innocent. However if criminal attorney's could only advocate for innocent people, most would be out of business.
 
egill

egill

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Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/3023147
Well my client was DEFINITELY not innocent. However if criminal attorney's could only advocate for innocent people, most would be out of business.


think you quoted the wrong person there, I'M INNOCENT!!
 
jackri

jackri

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Yeah nothing like vomitting 16 times in 10 hours at work or using the toilet repeatedly.. then laying on the floor at work in the bathroom cuz the floor is cool and then going back to an office full of people sweaty, pale and vomit breath

Does it get abused? yes
Does it serve a valid purpose? yes
 
crimzy

crimzy

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Originally Posted by EGILL
http:///forum/post/3023133
I work in the food industry and I think you'd rather me stay home then to get thousands of people sick. Even worse would be spreading my sick germs to the elderly or someone who's pregant.
Your industry is unique and I can understand a bit more justification about taking off. But why should you get paid for it?
Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/3023134
Hmmm, Crimz, there certainly is one way to be 'sick' and definitely should have the right to a 'sick day'... Though it involves bad mexican food, and being concealed to the thrown all day....


Originally Posted by jackri
http:///forum/post/3023150
Yeah nothing like vomitting 16 times in 10 hours at work or using the toilet repeatedly.. then laying on the floor at work in the bathroom cuz the floor is cool and then going back to an office full of people sweaty, pale and vomit breath

Does it get abused? yes
Does it serve a valid purpose? yes

I'll grant you all that there are definitely exceptions where it is appropriate to stay home. However, while these types of illnesses do occur in life, how many peoples' sick days involve being confined to the bathroom vomiting (or other) continuously. In your hypotheticals, it may be appropriate to take a sick day but in the real world, this is not why people are generally taking days off.
And if I'm the employer, why should I pay you for a day of work that doesn't get done just because you ate some bad mexican food?
 
crimzy

crimzy

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On another note, how can I be the only person with this opinion???

No wonder the American work force has been passed by and the labor unions are so strong that they're killing big businesses. For all our tough talk, somewhere along the way this country has gone soft.

When I interview someone for a position here, and they ask me how many sick days they get, they are immediately removed from consideration. I've made the mistake of NOT taking the same approach with smokers.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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I have never stayed home because I was sick....BUT as a mother...I have HAD to stay home with a sick child....I would go to work half dead if I had to..lol...My priorities were to be with my children when they needed me....thank goodness I never had sickly kids....and I have always had a job where (need be) they came to work with me.
NOW I WILL SAY...I have been sent home because I was sick..LOL...I have worked at this job ..well it will be 11 years in May...NEVER called in sick.....
I TOO HATE the abusers and whiners..
 
crimzy

crimzy

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Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3023154
I have never stayed home because I was sick....BUT as a mother...I have HAD to stay home with a sick child....I would go to work half dead if I had to..lol...My priorities were to be with my children when they needed me....thank goodness I never had sickly kids....and I have always had a job where (need be) they came to work with me.
NOW I WILL SAY...I have been sent home because I was sick..LOL...I have worked at this job ..well it will be 11 years in May...NEVER called in sick.....
I TOO HATE the abusers and whiners..
 
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