I get tired of hearing this! Rant!

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by Aquarium1
You will not listen to anything said through a post anyway, your mind is already made up. I don't have time to play
You have yet to post anything but opinion, yet you continue to attack others for defending theirs'.

 

[darth tang]

Let it go Journeyman.
He won't post his own personal knowledge. He just copied and pasted a link......and he gave Scuba flak for doing that yet it is ok for him. I have read that web page before.
I wonder if Aquarium realizes that some of what was done then openned the door really big for jobs to go overseas?
Still wondering how Clinton's unemployment rate is a valid arguement but Bush's isn't.
Oh, and I never have said Clinton was a horrible President. He did some good, I admit. I just use his presidency to help point out double standards held by Bush haters.

 

[aquarium1]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
You have yet to post anything but opinion, yet you continue to attack others for defending theirs'.
Yes, I do realize that Nafta had effects. It would have happened eventually. People are cheap. They want the best price in labor and goods.
He wanted examples and I gave them to him. Not all policies were a success, but more so than Bush's.
So you are saying that I run the State Department?

That stuff comes STRAIGHT from THEM. Perhaps you should READ the postings.

 

[aquarium1]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
*So saying "Bush is an idiot" is a fact...
*You can say whatever you want as your Constitutional right...
*You tell other people they will never be statesmen...
*When someone quotes you it's a "rant"....
That makes sense.

NO, when someone TWISTS what I said, to their own end, then that is THEIR rant.
My opinion is based in fact. Bush is stupid. He bought his way through school, and you or I BOTH have more knowlege in our little pinkys than he's got in his entire brain.
Surround yourself with knowledge and you will go far. (Even if you are an idiot) must be his motto.

 

[37g joe]

Originally Posted by Aquarium1
NO, when someone TWISTS what I said, to their own end, then that is THEIR rant.
My opinion is based in fact. Bush is stupid. He bought his way through school, and you or I BOTH have more knowlege in our little pinkys than he's got in his entire brain.
Surround yourself with knowledge and you will go far. (Even if you are an idiot) must be his motto.

so how did he buy his way through school im just wondering. he payed off his teachers? Maybe he had other people take his exams in school and payed them hmmm. Or maybe the media know thier are real ignorant people who belive that sort of crap and realise they can spout that off and people well belive them. If you get even a C average in an Ivyleague school your stil pretty frikin smart have you ever heard of the harvard grading scale. if I remember right 94% -100 is an A 87-93% is a B 79-86% is a C and 71-78% is a D any thing lower is an F. and if I rember right he had a B average. Now im not saying he is a genius but he is not stupid by any means. Your ignorance and the medias ignorance is they listen to his acsent and they assume that make him dumb. Liberals have resorted to elementry school tactics by calliing him basicly a big stupid head.
No one needs to twist your words your doing a fine enough job as it is to show your total lack of knowledge on this subject.

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by Aquarium1
My opinion is based in fact. Bush is stupid. He bought his way through school,...
Yeesh..
Anyway, back to the topic at hand.
The way the media is covering the current rioting is interesting. I wonder if the fact that newspapers are being targetted has anything to do with that?

 

[scubadoo]

Based on Bush's SAT scores he has an IQ of 125 or slightly higher. This would place him in the very superior intelligence range based on IQ and in the over 90 percentile group. An idiot has an IQ of 20 or less.

 

[37g joe]

Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
Based on Bush's SAT scores he has an IQ of 125 or slightly higher. This would place him in the very superior intelligence range based on IQ and in the over 90 percentile group. An idiot has an IQ of 20 or less.
and the media knows this but the have aproblem with facts they tend to get in the way of thier agenda's. For the people who dont think media has an agenda take the CNN entrance exam. No jokke as of last I knew the had questions such as do you feel bush is an aright president a jerk or a complete moron if you chose the last you would get a higher score they as questions that afilitate you towards the liberal or conservative side of the isle of your on the conserviative side trust me you wont be hired. during president clintions admistration he had the pentegon insitute a rule where you had to get special permision to promote white men without dissabilities with in the pentagon. he also cricized the U.S forest service about not having enough women fire fighters they poste two seperate job anouncements "only unqualified applicants may apply" "only applicants who do not meet (job qualifications)standards will be considered." because of this crazyness important firefigthing posstions where left vacant because thier where not enough women appling.

 

[scubadoo]

The real folks behind the scenes...from the presidential secret service detail ........
Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's detail. Without exception, they uniformly concede that she is perhaps the most nice kind, and genuinely good person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers.
She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation. There is nothing false about her. This is her genuine nature. Laura Bush really is this kind of a person and her security detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air." They actually love her as a human being. They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North."
Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect and he always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas detail. Every time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Que for his security detail and he helps in serving them their meals. He eats with them, sits with them, and talks with them. He always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers, and he of course, knows each of them by their first name, and calls them by their first name as a show of affection.
They believe that he actually loves his security detail and that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like, love, or respect anyone more ore than President Bush, and most of them did not know they would feel this way until they had an opportunity to work for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent. It has never changed in the time that he has been President. He always treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by 37g Joe
and the media knows this but the have aproblem with facts they tend to get in the way of thier agenda's. For the people who dont think media has an agenda take the CNN entrance exam. No jokke as of last I knew the had questions such as do you feel bush is an aright president a jerk or a complete moron if you chose the last you would get a higher score they as questions that afilitate you towards the liberal or conservative side of the isle of your on the conserviative side trust me you wont be hired. during president clintions admistration he had the pentegon insitute a rule where you had to get special permision to promote white men without dissabilities with in the pentagon. he also cricized the U.S forest service about not having enough women fire fighters they poste two seperate job anouncements "only unqualified applicants may apply" "only applicants who do not meet (job qualifications)standards will be considered." because of this crazyness important firefigthing posstions where left vacant because thier where not enough women appling.
JFK had an IQ of 119. The media all have agenda's...so you have to search for the facts yourself and analyze the situation.

 

[darth tang]

Originally Posted by Aquarium1
Yes, I do realize that Nafta had effects. It would have happened eventually. People are cheap. They want the best price in labor and goods.
He wanted examples and I gave them to him. Not all policies were a success, but more so than Bush's.
So you are saying that I run the State Department?

That stuff comes STRAIGHT from THEM. Perhaps you should READ the postings.

So which policies in your opinion were a success?
And I never said you ran the state department. You blast Scuba for copying and pasting information, information mind you, not an editorial or opinion. Yet here you are copying and pasting information yourself.

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
The real folks behind the scenes...from the presidential secret service detail ........
That's good stuff Scuba.. where did you get it?

 

[aquarium1]

Originally Posted by Darth Tang
So which policies in your opinion were a success?
And I never said you ran the state department. You blast Scuba for copying and pasting information, information mind you, not an editorial or opinion. Yet here you are copying and pasting information yourself.

Show me EXACTLY where I copied and pasted. I pasted an URL, so that people who wanted information could find it. It's not the fact that someone copied and pasted information, it's that the information is not his own, but somone elses opinion, that is preached as one's own. We can all find that information on our own as I already said. I do not have the time to read nor do I care to read all the information that has been copied and pasted. It shows nothing really. No one has the time (unless they are fanatics, with no job/life) to read all that crap. I don't work in the political industry, so I'm not up on all the position papers anymore, nor the individual instances of stupidity. But I see enough in my reading,viewing and interviewing people that I can form an educated opinion about Bush.
My opinion stands.

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
That's good stuff Scuba.. where did you get it?
I am at work now taking a break from the numbers...I'll post a link or cut and paste to aggrevate some later tonight....depends on my mood. More interesting stuff from the secret service regarding Clintons and Gore too.

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by Aquarium1
Show me EXACTLY where I copied and pasted. I pasted an URL, so that people who wanted information could find it. It's not the fact that someone copied and pasted information, it's that the information is not his own, but somone elses opinion, that is preached as one's own. We can all find that information on our own as I already said. I do not have the time to read nor do I care to read all the information that has been copied and pasted. It shows nothing really. No one has the time (unless they are fanatics, with no job/life) to read all that crap. I don't work in the political industry, so I'm not up on all the position papers anymore, nor the individual instances of stupidity. But I see enough in my reading,viewing and interviewing people that I can form an educated opinion about Bush.
My opinion stands.
You have already posted that Bush is an idiot. An idiot as defined using this IQ numbering system is having an IQ of 20 or lower. I have posted the IQ of Bush based on his published SAT scores. You have been proved wrong based on fact......get it?

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
That's good stuff Scuba.. where did you get it?
it's been on the net for some time. Snoops.com is still attempting to verify the info. I'lll refrain from psoting the stuff on Clinton/Gore/Hillary. The info on Bill /Hill is consistent with first hand interviews regarding the former body guards of Clinton in Arkansas. So, it does lend some support to the info on them.
Just thought I would post it and see if it stuck on the wall.. ,.....***)

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by Beth
No one comments on the graph I linked? Isn't that the topic of this thread? LOL
I thought I did? TIme to crawfish back thru the thread.....
Stve McGourty will post an article every now and then on the internet. To my knowledge, he is a liberal. I do not beleive he is an ecoonomist nor has he been published that I am aware of. I am not familair with his background and what his expertise is in...business, political science, etc.
I beleive he has used some numbers to promote a specific view. ....just based on a cursory view and some memory of reading his skewed work from the past. ...but I always hate to rely soley on memory.....especially at my age.
It is quite difficult to analyze the econamy on a micro and/or macro level spanning the timeframe he has covered in his "short article".
I see some major errors regarding his anlysis of the Carter era. Some liberals will claim stagflation started in 65...however..it did reach the peak of misery under Carter but some liberals will tell you we should not blame him.
I will say I have not looked at his ramblings in much detail. I am not certain if his analysis is accurate...and I am not saying it is totally inacurate.
There is a very old joke when working with numbers...ask me what 2 plus 2 is...and my response will be...what do you want it to be?

 

[dogstar]

Scuba, You 'rant' earlier ( though I hate that word ) about Syria and the WMDs so I posted a couple of C and P with some differing arguments and you seemed to ignore them, just go along with the change of subject ?
What gives, I dont expect them to change YOUR mind but why should I bother if you dont at least comment that its not true or more kool-aid or something?

 

[dogstar]

Beth, I posted a simular chart and ofcoures no one commented on it either. Maybe THEY didnt see it.

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by Dogstar
I can cut and paste toooooo.
The U.S. intelligence community has found evidence Syria received Iraqi missiles and WMD in late 2002 and early 2003, U.S. officials said, according to Geostrategy-Direct, the global intelligence news service.
The evidence includes satellite photographs of Iraqi convoys believed to be bringing missiles and WMD into Syria as well as assertions from Iraqi officials that ousted leader Saddam Hussein ordered such a transfer.
Still, the agencies fail to agree that sufficient evidence has been obtained to press the issue with the Syrian regime of President Bashar Assad.
Importantly, CIA Director George Tenet shares this view, officials said.......
......So far, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and Secretary of State Colin Powell have rejected the prospect that Iraqi biological and chemical weapons or missiles were sent to Syria. They echoed U.S. assessments that Saddam would not have trusted Assad with Iraq's missile and WMD assets.
"I have seen no hard evidence to suggest that is the case, that suddenly there were no weapons found in Iraq because they were all in Syria," Powell said. "I don't know why the Syrians would do that, frankly, why it would be in their interest. They didn't have that kind of relationship with Iraq."
Thats like sending them to Iran, Saddom was real freinds with them too.
"" I could be wrong......I beleive I am not but certainly a possibility. "" Im not saying your wrong, I just cant say your right.

Sorry I really missed it....There is some strong evidence that Syria was assistng us shortly after 9/11. This may explain the on the surface dismissal. Review the "axis of evil" is Syria on the list? You also need to consider we would have to invade Syria to find them..and not give them an advance warning. The second point is Bashar is not in total control of this country and many Syrians do not have a high opinion of him. The third point is that I doubt any politician would strat screming this loudly...without the smoking gun this time. Much of this can be found in Middle East Quarterly...regarding the analysis of the Bashar regime and if he is in total control.
If yo do a Google search on UN Weapons inspector Tierney (spell) you might find some
interesting reading if the article is still out there.
As I have stated and as I analyze the early 90's through current...the waepons were there....so where did they go? I'll be the first to admit I was wrong if they are not eventaully found in Syria I could be as there is no smoking gun. ..just numerous reports from several sources plus other countries. There is also some evidence that Russia assisted with the hiding/concealment/movement of the weapons. Some Iraqi defectors, other countries, satellite footage, leaders of other countries, numerous officials etc, etc..all wrong? Could be...but what are the odds? Don't know.