Ich (MICU journal)

kiefers

kiefers

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I have a 5 gallon on my nightstand (freshwater) with a betta. When that is empty I had thought about turning that into a coral QT. Does one really have to QT coral? I've read yes then I read just flush well in DT water and a bucket 2 or 3 times.
 
mproctor4

mproctor4

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My hope was that we wouldn't need to use any chemicals in QT tank (hypo only). I realize that may not be very realistic. Then if we alternated between fish and coral we would only need routine cleanings. If we hypo all (or most) new arrivals then let the tank set fallow for 8 weeks, I would assume there wouldn't be much chance of parasites/disease spreading. I have never had to treat for anything but ick so I am probably dreaming that we won't use it for anything else.
 
mproctor4

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Originally Posted by Kiefers http:///forum/thread/385151/ich-micu-journal/80#post_3381541
I have a 5 gallon on my nightstand (freshwater) with a betta. When that is empty I had thought about turning that into a coral QT. Does one really have to QT coral? I've read yes then I read just flush well in DT water and a bucket 2 or 3 times.
I am not going thru the nightmare of hypo in the 120 tank EVER AGAIN. It is not worth the risk when we currently have 2 QT tanks. We have nothing but time anyway.
 
kiefers

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i don't know what i'm going to do with the biocube yet. the glass is pretty scratched up and it needs a good cleaning...... so I have more than plenty of time to figure something out. I like the idea of sea horses alot but I have alot of reading up to do and have to stock up on the knowledge.
 
yannifish

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*waving back*
I'm good. Haven't gotten any other fish yet. I've been super busy lately. The QT is actually still at hypo levels, but I've been ghost feeding it. I plan to bring the salinity back up to normal this weekend, and continue to ghost feed and monitor ammonia. Then I'll get another fish. Probably not an angel right away, maybe a gramma or blenny.
Glad to hear everything is going well for the other fish in the MICU!
 
kiefers

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today looks good. Continueing to watch the lemonpeel for any changes but she's being a trooper and eating well. turned off one of the power heads to slow circulation so the can just relax. Finding that the two currents increase the evaporation and diffusion of gasses and keeps the fish more active and have to swim in order to stay in there place. (good physical therapy for them and keeps them strong and hungry)
Right now they are ALL in the conch shell hanging out together, such the family. The Lemonpeel, firefish goby, possum wrasse, and clown are all for one and all blah blah blah.....
 
flower

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Originally Posted by mproctor4 http:///forum/thread/385151/ich-micu-journal/80#post_3381545
I am not going thru the nightmare of hypo in the 120 tank EVER AGAIN. It is not worth the risk when we currently have 2 QT tanks. We have nothing but time anyway.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiefers http:///forum/thread/385151/ich-micu-journal/80#post_3381541
I have a 5 gallon on my nightstand (freshwater) with a betta. When that is empty I had thought about turning that into a coral QT. Does one really have to QT coral? I've read yes then I read just flush well in DT water and a bucket 2 or 3 times.
Most coral takes those bright expensive lights, making it near impossible to quarantine them. Not only the lights, but corals need to adapt to the water flow and placement in the DT. Since corals don't carry ich...A QT for corals is not needed, most of us just dip them to make sure no bad guys hitchhiked...A flush with DT water will loosen some critters... maybe.
 
kiefers

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This is why we feel we must QT everything prior to going into our tanks. May seem like a little over kill but an ounce of prevention is worth it's weight in having this happen again. Hense taking out the new coral and 3 gallons of DT water in a 5 gallon bucket and dip it and flush it well then maybe putting it into the DT may seem sufficant. MAYBE. But this WILL NOT happen in my tank again.
This little critter was my FAVORITE little guy. He was very friendly a camera hog and he hosted the most off the wall things in my tank. He had personality. ( A moment of silence please for little Rue)

 
mproctor4

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Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/385151/ich-micu-journal/80#post_3381994
Most coral takes those bright expensive lights, making it near impossible to quarantine them. Not only the lights, but corals need to adapt to the water flow and placement in the DT. Since corals don't carry ich...A QT for corals is not needed, most of us just dip them to make sure no bad guys hitchhiked...A flush with DT water will loosen some critters... maybe.
We have t5s for our QT and the biocube has half way decent lights. We don't have corals that need super strong lights so the lights in the QT should be enough. I do agree it isn't the best to keep moving corals around to different tanks. It may take them longer to adjust but if the tank is stable they should be okay. I realize that corals themselves do not carry ick, but what if there is a drop of water on it that has ick? Especially the soft corals and LPS, they have more cavities to potentially hold the parasite, then your tank is contaminated again. I know the chances are slim, but cases of this have been reported and we have the space and time so why not take advantage of that?
 
kiefers

kiefers

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what does one dip the corals in? Iodine? If so what would the ratio be drops per cup per say? even tho a good idea, and we have done this....... it doesn't rid of ick. i'm not trying to be difficult just very courious.
 
al&burke

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I couldn't agree more with the QT, but man it takes a long time, but not as long as when you have to keep your DT tank fallow for up to 8 weeks, right now I have 8 snails in QT and they will probably be there till the middle of June.
 
mproctor4

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Yes, it does feel like FOREVER. Esp. when we keep adding corals to the DT, we have to keep starting the count down over! I have done the 120g twice now and it felt like it would never end. It is worth it to not have to repeat that mistake. hopefully
 
spanko

spanko

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So ma and pa Keif, you guys actually do 6-8 weeks QT on everything before it goes into your displays??????????????
Coral, snails etc. etc etc.??
 
kiefers

kiefers

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Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/385151/ich-micu-journal/80#post_3382134
So ma and pa Keif, you guys actually do 6-8 weeks QT on everything before it goes into your displays??????????????
Coral, snails etc. etc etc.??
yes son........ i'm affraid so. I am unable to get a direct answer, may have gotten one but over looked it, but for now yes. It's hard for me to grasp however that the parasite can live on the coral itself but we have heard and "read" (research thing) that it does not. But the point being here is that if it's in infected water...... can one take out the DT water and lighty shake the coral in the bucket filled with the DT. would that be okay rather than QT inverts. Unable to find the answer. too many variables I guess.....
 
nikesb

nikesb

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the coral itself - only the parasite living in the water can be transferred.
the rock the coral is on - the cystic stage may be present on the rock or other parts other than the coral.
i've been trying to figure it out myself as to what i should do for my next build. looks like ill have two tanks smh.
 
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