LARGE Plywood Tank Build

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otty

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Originally Posted by wattsupdoc
http:///forum/post/2635847
I have 23 years in the industry. I hold a Master license since 1999. You?

Heck I just flip burger for a living during the day and deliver pizza at night.
 

scsinet

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Originally Posted by wattsupdoc
http:///forum/post/2635847
So then lets see. that's 144 watt/hours per day, so in one week there he'll use 1008 watt/hours less, oh boy a whole kilowatt a week, that's 52 kilowatt hours a year, at say even 25 cents a kilowatt hour which is a VERY high rate, Luke MIGHT save a whole 13 bucks a year. WOOOOHOOOO
The other thing that must be taken into account is the cost of running 230v circuits. It means running wire, outlets, double pole GFI breakers (which are freaky expensive). It would take at least 5+ years to return on the investment.
Doc's right... higher voltages are beneficial towards reducing wire sizes and voltage drop over long runs more than saving energy. Any savings would be marginal, and not feasible over the cost of running the circuits.
 

nwdyr

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Originally Posted by wattsupdoc
http:///forum/post/2635847
<<YEAH, or when they think the know more than they really do!>>
Boy, what a jerk you are
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I have 23 years in the industry. I hold a Master license since 1999. You?
So according to the graingers specs there it's more economical to run this ballast at 277 than it is 480?
277 X 1.7 = 470.9
And, well, any idiot can see that 480 X 1 = 480.
Since 208 is a 3 phase voltage that you don't have in a RESIDENCE! and Indiana itself does not have a set voltage of 221 volts, it can vary from pot to pot at each home you know. You have to use a number more along the standard, like 240. And then HMMM you can clearly see that the power is the same at 480 as it is at 240!!!! WHY is that? If operating it at higher voltages is more economical? Even IF those numbers are correct, you can see that the difference is nominal, you would theoretically use 288, watt/hour less per day. Now that's not kilowatts hours, which cost you somewhere around 10 to 18 cents a KILOWATT HOUR. So every 4 days you would save approximately 1 kilowatt hour. OH, but wait a minute, that's figuring a 24 hour photo period, Luke's not going to run a 24 hour photo period, he might run say a 12 hour period. So then lets see. that's 144 watt/hours per day, so in one week there he'll use 1008 watt/hours less, oh boy a whole kilowatt a week, that's 52 kilowatt hours a year, at say even 25 cents a kilowatt hour which is a VERY high rate, Luke MIGHT save a whole 13 bucks a year. WOOOOHOOOO
lets get all excited about that. The thing is those differences are so minimal, and trivial that it is really no savings to speak of. As well as those numbers can vary from fixture to fixture. I mean we are talking about a difference of .1 amp here. This is IMO, is no difference.
Now the savings on the pump might be a little better percentage wise. But still not much.
wow... you guys lost me a looooong time ago!!!
 

hefner413

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Well. My advice is that if you have the old plugs with only 2 holes, then get the new ones with three. They are better. Yup, and I know that with zero years of experience.
 

bronco300

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jigawatts....where do i find a jigawatt breaker? lol...do i need a flux capacitor as well?
i've taken the tank down and put it on the next side, i need to basically create a mout no so epoxy doesnt run out...i'll have to get plumbers putty most likely because tape never seems to work for me and i end up losing epoxy(costly mistakes).
 

bronco300

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gotta love the movie, makes me feel i should watch one tonight!
and yes, i will be epoxy the bottom of the top, thats what section i'm working on right now and the reason i need a mout so the epoxy doesnt run over the edge and get wasted
 

kogle

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Originally Posted by Brandan
http:///forum/post/2642364
Wow, you guys really need to get over yourselves. . . .

I hope this comment wasn't directed towards me. Of course you had to be "that guy" and quote me so I'll assume you were talking to me. No one rattled your cage so get back under the porch.
I was mearly trying to add some comedy since it seemed things were getting a little heated.
 

bronco300

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alright all, back to the actual thread instead of bickering please
I'll be ordering my glass this week and will probably get it in a month or sostill dont want it sitting around...but i have to order now or the prices are going to jack up very high..
 

kogle

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How are you going to mount the glass Luke? You may have covered it but I don't remember reading it. Brackets? Just silicone???
 
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