Might need to rethink that cruel and unusual punishment thing

bigarn

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Makes me proud to be from Jersey!
Sick ba-stards ... deserve castration with a rusty razor blade!
 
reefraff

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With this kind of motivation I can think of a lot better punishments. I want to see what they are going to do to the 15 year old who "sold" her. That little B shouldn't see the outside of a cell before she's old enough to join AARP as far as I am concerned. She was old enough to know exactly what she was doing.
 
bigarn

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3254513
With this kind of motivation I can think of a lot better punishments. I want to see what they are going to do to the 15 year old who "sold" her. That little B shouldn't see the outside of a cell before she's old enough to join AARP as far as I am concerned. She was old enough to know exactly what she was doing.
I couldn't agree more!
 
scottnlisa

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Nobody know the whole situation. If there is sexual/physical abuse for the rapist and the 15 year old who sold her then that adds special circumstances to the ssituation. These kids are proned for deviant behavior if they are subjected to abuse while growing up and not realize the difference between good and bad.
Also blame has to be put on the parents also. If parents are more involved in the lifes of their children, chances their children will have a less likely hood for commiting crimes. Facts are facts
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by scottnlisa
http:///forum/post/3254595
Nobody know the whole situation. If there is sexual/physical abuse for the rapist and the 15 year old who sold her then that adds special circumstances to the ssituation. These kids are proned for deviant behavior if they are subjected to abuse while growing up and not realize the difference between good and bad.
Also blame has to be put on the parents also. If parents are more involved in the lifes of their children, chances their children will have a less likely hood for commiting crimes. Facts are facts
I can't even respond to this post without violating the UA in extreme fashion.
 
meowzer

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Originally Posted by scottnlisa
http:///forum/post/3254595
Nobody know the whole situation. If there is sexual/physical abuse for the rapist and the 15 year old who sold her then that adds special circumstances to the ssituation. These kids are proned for deviant behavior if they are subjected to abuse while growing up and not realize the difference between good and bad.
Also blame has to be put on the parents also. If parents are more involved in the lifes of their children, chances their children will have a less likely hood for commiting crimes. Facts are facts
I also don't get what you are implying? What whole situation? Did you read and listen to the report?
And as a parent....that whole last paragraph you stated is sooooo soooooo wrong.....
What there is no excuse for is what happened, how it happened, or actually any part of it at all.....
 
ironeagle2006

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For me the Sick Aholes that did what they did to that 7 year old well let me put it to you this way. For them a wood chipper would be about the right thing to feed them thru. If not that then give them cement shoes and throw them out of a Plane with no chute over the Atlantic Ocean. For the 15 year old Put her behind bars for the next 70 years and also let the gaurds have their way with HER anytime and way they want during that time.
 
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Originally Posted by scottnlisa
http:///forum/post/3254595
Nobody know the whole situation. If there is sexual/physical abuse for the rapist and the 15 year old who sold her then that adds special circumstances to the ssituation. These kids are proned for deviant behavior if they are subjected to abuse while growing up and not realize the difference between good and bad.
Also blame has to be put on the parents also. If parents are more involved in the lifes of their children, chances their children will have a less likely hood for commiting crimes. Facts are facts
Hmmm...interesting arguement. I'm sure it is one the lawyers will use, but it's a load of poop.
I was abused/molested. I knew it was wrong (mostly because it had to be kept secret and it just didn't "seem" right) It made me feel as if I was in the wrong, but I was a child and later learned I was a victim of a sick man and I wasn't in the wrong.
Point is, this terrible feeling was NEVER one I felt the need to pass along to others. Even as a child I knew better.
Abusing others because you are abused is a lame excuse(if it is even the case here) and no matter what, we are all responsible for our own actions.
Everyone knows that ----/molestation is wrong. Why else would they need to hide it?
 
scottnlisa

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I look at the medical sides of things when it comes to situations like this. I can understand that most people on here don't fully understand the relationship how the brain, chemical imbalances in the brain, and past experiences can influence the life of a minor or an adult.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by scottnlisa
http:///forum/post/3254712
I look at the medical sides of things when it comes to situations like this. I can understand that most people on here don't fully understand the relationship how the brain, chemical imbalances in the brain, and past experiences can influence the life of a minor or an adult.
Maybe you can use your superior intellect to explain exactly what these animals went through that drove them to this?
 
scottnlisa

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3254737
Maybe you can use your superior intellect to explain exactly what these animals went through that drove them to this?
Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, David Berkowitz, etc all had abnormalities with their brains and chemicals in their brains. I do agree something needs to be done with these kids who did this but killing them would be wrong. We need to study their brain waves, chemicals and lobes to try to figure out and prevent this from not happening in the future.
From a medical stand point this is very fascinating.
 
meowzer

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Originally Posted by scottnlisa
http:///forum/post/3254738
From a medical stand point this is very fascinating.
WOW...I don't think I would use the word fascinating...nor would the 7 year old...nor would the 7 year olds parents.....AND I...AS A PARENT...totally disagree that anytime someone does something wrong we should look at the parents
 
ironeagle2006

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I am speaking as a Parent here. Anyone did something like that to my little girl. They would NEED THE POLICE TO LIVE. I would not care about myself you hurt my only little girl guess what your going to see what PAIN IS. Say start at your feet with a 16 LB Sledgehammer and work my way up.
 
cranberry

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Meowy.... the parents are also to blame here. How can one not know something is going on with their child? I don't care how closed up a child is and how good they are at sneaking around and lying.... a parent will know if their daughter a prostitute, IMO.... if they are at all paying attention.
That 15 year old needs help too.... not a pardon, not an excuse... but help. Do y'all think a "normal" child will sell a sister? This family is messed up beyond belief. Yes, you can have deviant minds born to "normal" families.... but in all the cases I saw, the background was less than desirable.
Being trained to deal with such stuff..... I still don't find it fascinating.
 
meowzer

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Actually I was talking in general.....I just get tired of hearing The Parents are always to blame when children do something wrong....It is not always the case.
AND in this case...I wonder why the 15 year old was even still with the parents with all these "previous" crimes....seems to me she needed help, and was not getting it at home
 
cranberry

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I agree parents aren't to blame for everything. I was a "hard" child to raise. Very strong willed, very stubborn and very brave. I got into "trouble" all the time and my parents were definitely not to blame. They tried SO hard to keep me straight.... and basically I outgrew it in time. I had a wonderful childhood.... but a bored and creative mind.
I can't be sure where the kids are at all times, and it seems lately we've actually been wrong on a couple of accounts O.O But I think I can feel safe in thinking they aren't off in an partially abandoned part of town, in a crime ridden apartment, hanging out with other peeps that they are selling themselves too...... I think one would pick up on that.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by scottnlisa
http:///forum/post/3254738
Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, David Berkowitz, etc all had abnormalities with their brains and chemicals in their brains. I do agree something needs to be done with these kids who did this but killing them would be wrong. We need to study their brain waves, chemicals and lobes to try to figure out and prevent this from not happening in the future.
From a medical stand point this is very fascinating.
The only study that needs to me made is how many blows to the head with a baseball bat it takes to crack their skulls like a walnut. I'd televise said study. I am so over the whole "little Johnny or janey is a screwup because_________" thing as an excuse for unacceptable behavior. This is what it leads to. There is a special place in hell waiting for people like that.
 
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