Mixed Martial Arts... For Children? Unbelievable!

[hlcroghan]

Originally Posted by Nano Reefer
http:///forum/post/2698728
just to make it clear. i think MMA is fun to watch. but i dont think introducing such violence to a kid under age 13 is a good idea. other forms of fighting, like karate, for young kids help them learn to know how to fight. outside of the dojo, so they will think fighting a kid in school isnt a big deal.
I actually disagree with this. I think you should know your child well enough to know if they can handle this kind of training. I don't think that young children should beat each other til they bleed but I don't see anything wrong with them training in MMA if they are exposed to it properly and taught when it is appropriate to use.

 

[nano reefer]

Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2698752
I actually disagree with this. I think you should know your child well enough to know if they can handle this kind of training. I don't think that young children should beat each other til they bleed but I don't see anything wrong with them training in MMA if they are exposed to it properly and taught when it is appropriate to use.
thats the thing, kids arent being taught properly. the clips on ESPN show rule violations and refs not making calls.

 

[nano reefer]

Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/2698750
How is KARATE any different then mixed martial arts ? Kids learning how to strike/target vital areas is the same no matter what you call it .
similarities: fighting, teaching discipline, respect.
differences: MMA is more violent at the pre-teen age level, in my opinion too violent for pre-teens.

 

[hlcroghan]

That is different in this case then. The parents should not be including their child in something like that. However, this is the responsibility of the parent to look after their children not the sport of MMA. That is like saying it is football's fault that the linebacker got a concussion or like it is that car's fault that someone died in an accident. People need to have good judgement about what they are doing.

 

[el guapo]

Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2698752
I actually disagree with this. I think you should know your child well enough to know if they can handle this kind of training. I don't think that young children should beat each other til they bleed but I don't see anything wrong with them training in MMA if they are exposed to it properly and taught when it is appropriate to use.

I agree full heartedly with this . Children that start any martial art or combination of them at a young age are more likely to learn proper respect training and discipline For both the skills they have learned and for their fellow humans . Experience accounts for a lot of the ability for self control .

 

[nano reefer]

Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2698776
That is different in this case then. The parents should not be including their child in something like that. However, this is the responsibility of the parent to look after their children not the sport of MMA. That is like saying it is football's fault that the linebacker got a concussion or like it is that car's fault that someone died in an accident. People need to have good judgement about what they are doing.
okay. but is letting your 7 year old punch someone in the face (under supervision of a ref or trainer or sensei) responsible of the parent? if a parent believes their child is responsible enough than thats okay. i just think that people under age 10 arent resposible enough to handle it.

 

[el guapo]

I know of adults that are not responsible enough to handle it . Age has very little to do with responsability . With anything smaller children are more adapt at learning at a younger age . They are not as stubborn and can be tought proper technique . There is no such thing as too young to learn . You can't regain missed oppertunity to learn .

 

[aquaknight]

Originally Posted by Nano Reefer
http:///forum/post/2698945
okay. but is letting your 7 year old punch someone in the face (under supervision of a ref or trainer or sensei) responsible of the parent? if a parent believes their child is responsible enough than thats okay. i just think that people under age 10 arent resposible enough to handle it.
So you answered your own question then. If the parent sees it as okay, and the child is apparently mature enough to handle it, then it's okay?
Calling it disgusting and barbaric was just up setting to some people who do have the respect for it.

 

[nano reefer]

Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2698975
So you answered your own question then. If the parent sees it as okay, and the child is apparently mature enough to handle it, then it's okay?
Calling it disgusting and barbaric was just up setting to some people who do have the respect for it.
how can you be mature at age 6? i think the parents may be a little "imbalanced", because some parents wanted there 3 years olds to do MMA. yes 3 year olds. luckily the guy that owned the place said no.

 

[fuerte91]

I am going to have take El Guapo's side.I honestly think there isnt any problem in it at all.All i think it is is competition, like everythingelse in life. And honestly, if your whining and crying, you shouldnt be doing this sport Actually, when i opened it i thought it was suppose to be a funny thread. Guess I was wrong. This vid is super funny though

http://youtube.com/watch?v=A7NED9IsGMs

 

[el guapo]

Originally Posted by Nano Reefer
http:///forum/post/2699002
how can you be mature at age 6? i think the parents may be a little "imbalanced", because some parents wanted there 3 years olds to do MMA. yes 3 year olds. luckily the guy that owned the place said no.

So do you want to use the word mature or responsible ? because they don't exactly mean the same thing . Just because one is mature does not make them responsible and vise versa .

 

[nano reefer]

Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/2699088
So do you want to use the word mature or responsible ? because they don't exactly mean the same thing . Just because one is mature does not make them responsible and vise versa .
good point. but they are related. i think.

 

[el guapo]

Mature
Fully developed; grown up in terms of physical appearance, behaviour or thinking; ripe.
She is quite mature for her age.
Profound; careful.
The headmaster decided to expel the boy after a mature consideration.
Responsible
Answerable for an act performed or for its consequences; accountable; amenable, especially legally or politically.
Parents are responsible for their child's behaviour.
Capable of responding to any reasonable claim; able to answer reasonably for one's conduct and obligations; capable of rational conduct.
Involving responsibility; involving a degree of personal accountability on the part of the person concerned.
She has a responsible position in the firm.
Being a primary cause or agent of some event or action; capable of being credited for something, or of being held liable for something.
Who is responsible for this mess?
Able to be trusted; reliable; trustworthy.
He looks like a responsible guide

 

[ric maniac]

The kids enjoy it. 'nuff said, they want to do it. they arent being forced to do it and there are rules. why not? Believe it or not fighting is an art.

 

[nano reefer]

Originally Posted by ric maniac
http:///forum/post/2699119
The kids enjoy it. 'nuff said, they want to do it. they arent being forced to do it and there are rules. why not? Believe it or not fighting is an art.
i like to smoke weed and kill women. i enjoy it. does that make it okay to do it?
BTW i am clean and dont kill women, just proving a point.

 

[el guapo]

Originally Posted by Nano Reefer
http:///forum/post/2699130
i like to smoke weed and kill women. i enjoy it. does that make it okay to do it?
BTW i am clean and dont kill women, just proving a point.

The above statement shows lack of maturity from a physicaly mature person .
Thanks for providing an example of my point .

 

[ric maniac]

Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/2699133
The above statement shows lack of maturity from a physicaly mature person .
Thanks for providing an example of my point .

beat me to it.

 

[hammerhed7]

Being a long time martial artist myself, I don't disagree with teaching children the fighting arts, if it is done in a responsible manner, that lies with the instructor not the child.
Secondly there is a new generation of fighters today, ones that have only trained "mma", however This type of fighter could eventually lead to the demise of the sport. The original lure of mma was watching experts in their various arts compete against an expert from another style. If you look at the newer fighters coming into the sport, such as from the ultimate fighter tv show, they train only in mma, and they don't do anything particularly well. (Jack of all trades, master of none).
I understand the need to crosstrain to be competitive, but it is best to establish a base first whether is is a traditional art, or jiu jitsu, wrestling, whatever (ie Randy Couture). The sport is evolving, but the fighters today just dont measure up to the guys who started the ball rolling.
I think mma training and sport is great, but children are probably better off starting elsewhere and working toward mma training and competition.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/2698726
Wrsetling head gear doesn't protect from strikes and boxing head gear does not allow for the proper amount of movment on the ground .
Then they need to be making gear that will work for this sport. I wouldn't even consider letting a kid do that without some kind of head protection.

 

[reefforbrains]

they are children.
a few bloody lips and bruises abound.
Not enough power to break each others heads, not enough power to go for KO's so brain damage is not a factor as it is in adult fighting.
Leverage and perm damage is different, BUT the refs are close to monitor the situation so I say go get um.
I LOVE boxing and miss it dearly. Even in my prime I cherished ring time and knew it wouldnt last forever. I always defend fighters because it is not about hurting people. It is about locking horns with other young bucks and testing your abilities. Amazing personal growth for most people. Sure some dont know when to quit. Others are just testosterone freaks but by and large most are true athletes and gentlemen.
Honor among fighters is serious. Most of what people know are the idiots from TV with the attitudes and knuckles dragging on the ground.
watching small children fight is downright silly to watch in the first place but if it teaches at early ages how to be a good winner/loser then I say it is fantastic.