more fragging fun

reefkprz

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Originally Posted by kayak385
Could you essentially cut them into certain shapes and designs and they will be fine?

I have never tried that and wouldnt reccomend it. Pie shapes are best IMO or hlafs isf you prefer.
 

renogaw

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what should i do, if anything, with these i jsut got in the mail today? i think they are on their way out, but wouldn't mind trying to save em--they are supposed to be blue mushrooms :) :
 

reefkprz

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put them in a dish with some sand in a low flow area with medium light, they may come back, I've seen worse looking ones recover.
 

reefkprz

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Originally Posted by autofreak44
any more updates? im lookin forward to any fo sho
Not yet I've been really busy, but with my new frag tank up and running it wont be long before I do some different things. I have to look back and see what I've done, and What I havent that I have in stock. If I dont have much different, I'll call my buddy matt and see if he'll let me take shots of him fragging blastos and micros, I also want to do a better run of fragging plating monti.
As always any suggestions or questions will be answered as soon as I can, now that I'm working afternoon or evenings is probably the time I will be able to check the threads. so dont look for answers right away in the mornings.
and of course donations in the form of corals are always welcome.....

just kidding.
 

reefkprz

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Originally Posted by grubsnaek
when you do more fraggin will they go in your new frag tank, i seen your new post of the new frag tank
absolutly, thats what its for. that way when my buyers come buy they know what is for sale or trade and what isnt.
everything in that tank is either for trade on here(soon), sale to my local buyers or already sold. (about half of whats in there is spoken for)
one piece is for who_dey a gift from me after his tank crash, I just need to figure the shipping and get in touch with him.
 

reefkprz

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this link is how to frag lepastrea, BY Maxalmon
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/269625/fragged-my-leptastrea#post_2115512
then maxalmon fragging his pruple rain encrusting montipora
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/266876/i-just-fraged-my-purple-rain-monti
And maxalmon fraggin several things.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/267803/massive-fragging-project-started
Thank you maxalmon for letting me link to these. hope fully more people will be able to find them later on after the threads have run their course.
 

mtennant

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Originally Posted by reefkprZ
one thing that I only touched on in passing is the importance of gloves. I'm only going to list a few of the reasons to wear them, but honestly they should be enough for any body.
1 palytoxins see this thread about palytoxins for an explination
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/245173/the-truth-about-palytoxins
2 super glue see the glove picture way above. (not to mention I have glued my hand to rocks before, this is NOT fun)
3 bacteria, all corals host many types of bacteria, the slime coating on the outside of corals is the IDEAL breeding ground for them. bacteria like Vibrio and pseudomonas (the bacterias that can cause life threatening diarhea, not the way I wanna go out) even when wearing gloves washing your hands and forearms after is important.
4 bristle worms, most of us know how irritating a fingerload of spines can be, to those that are allergic it can be quite painfull. they do hid in and amonst your rocks so at anytime when your handling rock they could be looking for a way off the bumpy ride.
5 soap residue, oils, chemicals, present on your hands, there is a chance anything on your hands could potentially hurt your coral, since we are trying to make more why risk it.
this is just a few reasons, though there are more like, if you slip while cutting with a razor, the rubber glove, as the blade penetrates it, wipes some of whatever is on the leading edge of the blade back (kind of like a squegee). so palytoxins or bacteria have less chance of penetrating as deep into the cut, making it easier to clean out. I know I sound like a paranoid coot but its just basic hygene and awareness.
Yes very true!!!!!
 

reefkprz

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I think this thread has finnaly run dry, thank you to all who participated. and I hope some people get use out of this. Of course if any one has any more questions on fragging, feel free to post them here I will check in and answer them as best I can. Thanks everyone!
 

reefkprz

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I'm moving on to make mini fragging videos, Kayak. I need to get some gloves later on. there is a new thread for the vids, there is only one video right now its me fragging a red ball sponge. but there will be more.
 

kayak385

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Originally Posted by reefkprZ
I'm moving on to make mini fragging videos, Kayak. I need to get some gloves later on. there is a new thread for the vids, there is only one video right now its me fragging a red ball sponge. but there will be more.
I bought gloves and glue to start fraggin a couple weeks ago as you see above, and i'm waiting to use the rest of them.. so far i have done an OK job!
 

pappa d

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wow great thread! this answered alot of my questions, but how do you know when its time to frag? or do you really never have to frag? i know that in some cases you may not have room for everything and it grows out of hand and thats where you should frag but if its not b othering anything then is it necessary to frag or just for the fun of it? oh and one more thing, what kind of gloves are those? -thanks
 

reefkprz

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Originally Posted by Pappa D
wow great thread! this answered alot of my questions, but how do you know when its time to frag? or do you really never have to frag? i know that in some cases you may not have room for everything and it grows out of hand and thats where you should frag but if its not b othering anything then is it necessary to frag or just for the fun of it? oh and one more thing, what kind of gloves are those? -thanks
Thanks for the compliment.

you never really have to frag if you dont want to. as for know when a good time to frag here are the ways I judge if a coral is ready.
1, never frag a new addition, if it hasnt been in the tank for a while and shown signifigant growth, dont frag it.
2, if the colony if encroaching onto the territory of another less agressive, or slower growing coral, it a good time to frag it back to keep it from overtaking the other coral.
3, if you have a large colony and you really dont want it to get larger.
4, On LPS like trumpet (candycane) if it has the full ball shape to the overall colony, frogspawn if its spreadign far enough to sting corals that are close.
5 whenever you think you want to reduce the size or create another colony to increase the rate a given colony spreads. one trick I use is to place several small colonies one one rock to increase how fast the rock will get covered. picture it this way its like burning a piece of paper, if you light one corner the fire has to work its way from that corner but if you light all four corners and the center, the piece of paper gets consumed really quickly.
Gloves: they are powder free <(super important) latex, you can also use powder free vinyl gloves. as long as they are powder free your pretty much ok to use them. I prefer the latex as they fit better but I occasionally use vinyl when the store I'm in doesnt have latex. I also use a rubber band at the wrist to keep the back of the glove close so I can reach into the tank or buckket without filling the glove with water.
 

spanko

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A question about a toadstool leather. In one of the posts you mentioned getting a part of the base with the pc. you are fragging. Is this necessary? The head of this toadstool is quite large and I am wondering if I can just cut off a slice of the outer edge.
 

saltn00b

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would you do ricordia the same way as these other shrooms?
almost everytime i have attempted the sand technique, all i got is the mushy webbing from the disintegrating shroom. i was under the impression that the bowl i used with a bridal netting over it caused a lack of flow, leading to their demise. yet you seem to use a very tall HOB type of container? a few holes in it, and hanging on the rim of the tank? what say you?
 

kilhullen

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Not anywhere near this stage, but I have been reading about it. Since my first attempts when it is time will be tenative and slow, how long can the corals survive outside the water while you are cutting etc.?
 
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