My tank is MAD :(

scott t

scott t

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/382201/my-tank-is-mad/140#post_3336116
Scott,
Theres not a whole lot of point to cycling your tank with no live rock in there. You cycle it after you get all the sand and LR in there and wehre you want it, THEN put in the shrimp.
If you do it now it won't have nearly enough bacteria built up on just the glass to colonize your LR and sand (at least not quickly) You'd have to wait quite a while for that to spread to the rocks and sand so no fish during that time.
BUt if you add all you rock now, dead or alive and then put the shrimp in there, byt the time all your parameters are good you will be ready for a CUC.
Thanks for the Reply Jstdv8, we are talking about my QT tank here. I was just asking if I could put some in there to help get the Bacteria going in it. I have yet to set up my DT yet that should happen in the next couple of weeks. I set up the QT it have it ready before the DT so as the DT is cycling I could have fish QTing.. I would Transfer the rock to the DT if I found that I needed to Medicate the fish for Parasites, or just put it in the DT when I start to cycle that..
 
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jstdv8

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I see what you're up to, trying to skip that dread extra month of no fish, gotcha.
Let me just say this...
in hunting down parasites like ich there are alot of what if's....
WHAT IF The fish does have ich when you bring it into your QT. So during the ich life cycle the fish will have the cysts in them for a while, then they drop out and find there way around to a surface they like on the sand, LR, coral, back of a crabs shell, side of the tank (You get the idea)
and then the fish starts showing signs so you decide to medicate. So in order to medicate you want to take the LR and LS out and put it in your DT like you said. He is where the problems arrive.... you've just taken out half the ich problem and put it directly intot he loaction you didn't ever want it (Your DT). now those little cysts hang around in thier encrusted form for lets say 28 days... (just about the same period of time you keep your fish in copper or hypo). so you think you're all set with the treated fish and you put it into the DT, and whammo, just about the same time as the Cysts are exploding in your tank and letting loose hundreds of free swimming ich that are looking for a fish to feed on to continue thier life cycle. And you just gave it to them.
Then you come back here and tell us how your treatment failed and whats the point of QTing if my fish get ich as soon as I put them in the DT.
Soooooo. IFFF this happens and you need to take the LR and the LS out and put it in the DT ASSUME (always assume) that the infected fish has dropped at least one of these (It only takes 1 to make hundreds) which brings us to leaving your DT fishless for 6 weeks. IFFFF you decide to treat, leave those fish in the QT tank even after you are done medicating (or medicate for 6 weeks) for the same 6 weeks to be sure the ich that MAY be in your DT now has no fish to live off of and has died a terrible terrible hungry starving agonizing death that would be fitting for a parasite that lives off of other creatures.
 
scott t

scott t

Active Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/382201/my-tank-is-mad/160#post_3336324
I see what you're up to, trying to skip that dread extra month of no fish, gotcha.
Let me just say this...
in hunting down parasites like ich there are alot of what if's....
WHAT IF The fish does have ich when you bring it into your QT. So during the ich life cycle the fish will have the cysts in them for a while, then they drop out and find there way around to a surface they like on the sand, LR, coral, back of a crabs shell, side of the tank (You get the idea)
and then the fish starts showing signs so you decide to medicate. So in order to medicate you want to take the LR and LS out and put it in your DT like you said. He is where the problems arrive.... you've just taken out half the ich problem and put it directly intot he loaction you didn't ever want it (Your DT). now those little cysts hang around in thier encrusted form for lets say 28 days... (just about the same period of time you keep your fish in copper or hypo). so you think you're all set with the treated fish and you put it into the DT, and whammo, just about the same time as the Cysts are exploding in your tank and letting loose hundreds of free swimming ich that are looking for a fish to feed on to continue thier life cycle. And you just gave it to them.
Then you come back here and tell us how your treatment failed and whats the point of QTing if my fish get ich as soon as I put them in the DT.
Soooooo. IFFF this happens and you need to take the LR and the LS out and put it in the DT ASSUME (always assume) that the infected fish has dropped at least one of these (It only takes 1 to make hundreds) which brings us to leaving your DT fishless for 6 weeks. IFFFF you decide to treat, leave those fish in the QT tank even after you are done medicating (or medicate for 6 weeks) for the same 6 weeks to be sure the ich that MAY be in your DT now has no fish to live off of and has died a terrible terrible hungry starving agonizing death that would be fitting for a parasite that lives off of other creatures.
Well, I would before I added fish to the QT would put the LR in the DT, or if I decided to not take the LR out of the QT and put fish in there and they showed signs of Parasites I would not put that LR in the DT. I have researched SWF for over a year and have had FW tanks through out my life.. If I did in fact ,which I prob. not, leave the LR in the QT when I introduced fish and the did in fact develop parasite I would never put the rock in the DT because I know the risk factors of that. The LR that was in the QT would go into a bucket with a PH and heater and I would leave it there for 6 weeks so I know that the Parasite is in fact gone..
 
spanko

spanko

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Just to nose in here a bit, put nothing in your QT except a filter dedicated to the QT and a few pcs. of PVC pipe for the fish to hide in. Nothing from the QT, except the verified fish, should ever go back to the display. And everything in the QT should be able to be cleaned and sterile after usage getting ready for the next QT.
JMO
 
meowzer

meowzer

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UPDATE:
I am happy to report that the leathers are back to normal...the gsp is all open as are all the zoas....
THE SPS, is "recovering" birdsnest is coloring back up....slowly, but doing it YAYYY
The orange monti is still very questionable, but still has some color....
YAYYYYYY
 
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jstdv8

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Sweet, meo, but we are talking about Scott's Qt tank now, we;ve totally lost interest in your corals........
J/K (((HUGS)))
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/382201/my-tank-is-mad/160#post_3336550
Sweet, meo, but we are talking about Scott's Qt tank now, we;ve totally lost interest in your corals........
J/K (((HUGS)))

LOL......well Scott and I have already talked about the LR and qt......he was only thinking oif placing a little LR in there to get the cycle & curing started,.......IIRC he said he was not going to put any fish in the qt until that LR was moved into his dt
 
J

jstdv8

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Fine fine, If we must get back on topic about your corals.......
Did the clam ever have any hard feelings throguh this whole ordeal where the other corals were looking bad?
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Not really....the crocea never changed a bit, the Large maxima may have not been open as much as it should be
I only say that cause it is open and out more then it was..LOL....when I was having the issues The clam was new, so I would not have known the difference
 
scott t

scott t

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Quote:
Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/382201/my-tank-is-mad/160#post_3336558
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/382201/my-tank-is-mad/160#post_3336550
Sweet, meo, but we are talking about Scott's Qt tank now, we;ve totally lost interest in your corals........
J/K (((HUGS)))

LOL......well Scott and I have already talked about the LR and qt......he was only thinking oif placing a little LR in there to get the cycle & curing started,.......IIRC he said he was not going to put any fish in the qt until that LR was moved into his dt
Thank you Meowzer, yes that is what I was planning on doing.. I would not leave the LR in the QT, as Meowzer stated I had thought about it but I just want to put the LR in there to help with the CYCLE/Curing and I also have some Dry Rock that I was going to also put in the QT to help get the bacteria growing on it. I would take the rock out of the tank before I put any fish in it. By the time the QT is Cycled I should have my DT set up and running so it would be no problem with transferring the rock to the DT. I do also have PVC to put in the QT, so that is what I would leave in the QT while the fish are in there.
 
bullitr

bullitr

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you deserve it!
my friend Justin ( murph145 ) was a mod here too!
great guy and his nano looks really good!
 
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