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ezee

ezee

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All,
I usually don't say anything about these threads but I thought I might make an observation. There is a difference between helping and moral/social pressure being put on someone. It doesn't take that much pressure for folks to start behaving defensively, and once that happens they are not going to listen to anything you say. Then you are not really accomplishing anything anymore. There seems to be a lot of that.
I for one appreciate every shred of help that has been thrown my way on this site (I have been researching for over a year) but I think sometimes a different approach may be more effective and actually save more fishie lives.
Nok, I really like your creativity! You should at least consider what people are saying but, of course, make the decision that makes the most sense to you.
Just a thought.
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nokturnal1

nokturnal1

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Wait if you go to nano tanks you see that people have foxface and tangs in a 30 gallons or on a 20 gallons thats ok. But for me it is not ok.I wonder if is because I have 2 60 gallons and you dont.look im not hating on nobody.All I wan't is to put my pic in saltwaterfish.com to show people my tank's.If I have question adout my fish I would go to the topic for fish.Please dont hate on me dont.
.And yes my fish and my banded shark and my ray have been in the tank for 2 yrs and 1 month today. The same fish.No replacing fish every month or week or yrs.
[NOKTURNAL CAR CLUB EL MISTER]
Originally Posted by njfish77
well NOKTURNAL1 i think your a little ignorant because just because your not hearing what you want to hear you go straight ahead saying oh my fish are fine and they deffinately arent stressed.well there is know way someone who put a shark a ray 2 triggers a foxface and tangs in a 60 gallon is going to know what a stressed fish is going to look like.its a wonder how you keep the tank so clean????are you sure you had that tank for 1-2 years because i would think from the bioload you would have to be replacing fish every month.well for something positive maybe you should make the other tank a reef with a pair of clowns,blenny or goby of some sort and keep the yellow tang.as for the aggresive tank i guess you could maybe leave one of the triggers but ive seen a clown grow to be over 10 inches.you should put a lionfish in there,rockfish if you could,grouper like the panther grouper.but this is my suggestions.also bring the shark and ray to a friend or local dishstore that will take them because the tank is just way to small like said in many other replys
 
njfish77

njfish77

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listen im deffinately not hating because i can also but 2 60 gallons and just stuff a whole lot of stuff in them but i buy stuff for the tank to make it a healthy system and then move onto another tank.
 
popnfrresh

popnfrresh

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Yes it looks nice. Pleasing to the eye yes. Good for the fish, no. Please do not add more fish to the other tank. Instead take the foxface and tang and put em in the smaller tank and add smaller fishes (ONLY IF YOU MUST). Those 4 are way to big/demanding to be in a small tank. Sharks and rays are very messy and pollute the tank quickly while the foxface and tangs are herbivorus and need constant vegetable matter.
The second thing is the vibrations WILL disrupt the tank life. Also they may weaken the seam on the glass. Which may cause a leak over electical equipment. Which may start a fire. SO if you wont do it for your fish then at least change it for yourself and dont start a fire....
BUT it does look nice.
 
tangey

tangey

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great looking tank. thats amazing that you can keep all those fish in there. Keep up the good work, you must be doing something right.
 
njfish77

njfish77

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you could put a great white in a 60 gallon but does that mean its happy and is going to live a long time ?????no
 
lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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No one is hating because they are jealous. I, for one, can say that I know I am not jealous. I worked long days and hard hours since the beginning of this year so that I could buy a 210 gallon tank for my fish and put it together the proper way, because I knew that that was what my fish needed and that would be responsible fish keeping. So to say people are jealous is simply erroneous.
People on this site are concerned about the life of the fish involved. We all told you that the set-up is appealing to the eye but it is not beneficial to the health of the fish for two reasons. One, because of the size of the tanks, and two, because of the possible problems involing the two speakers being mounted directly under the tanks.
And so what if you got lucky and they are living? No one should be promoting putting those types of fish into that small of a tank. You cannot think that you won't get criticism by posting pictures of animals that are in tanks that they shouldn't be in. We are all here on this website because we are responsible fish keepers and we want the best for our animals. Regardless of whether you love your fish or not, you still should want the best for them, even if that is something that is contradictory to what you want to hear. You won't find publication anywhere that says sharks and rays would live happily in a 60 gallon tank. That is as simple as it is. There are plenty of fish that could live and thrive in a 60 gallon tank. A shark or a ray are not included in that list.
 
popnfrresh

popnfrresh

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I used to work in a ***** and the joke of the month was to put like 3or 4 oscars in a "HUGE" tank. You know like 10 gallons...
Or the one where people had a fresh tank and wanted to mix goldfish with oscars and nemo's....
God i hated that.,.....
 
carshark

carshark

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I cant believe this thread is still around, I stopped posting once it became a "player hater" thread.. what ever that has to do with it(
) i cant believe this is still a debate. well either way, someone needs to grow up and take criticism the correct way, I will say those are beautiful specimen and I have a friend with a 400 gal aggressive tank that Im sure would be more than happy to take those off of your hands to give them a proper environment. Bottom line you need to remove those fish ASAP. It is not healthy for them. as for your attempt. awesome try if you would go down to a small reef or maybe a dwarf angel or something with a ton of live rock, smaller fish etc. you would have a cool set up..
 
jmick

jmick

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Wow, you should be ashamed of yourself. What a terribly over-crowed tank…people like you give the rest of us a bad rep. You have my vote for Tool of the Month!
 
d0ch0liday

d0ch0liday

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wow.......you guys have raped.....pillaged.....mugged......and beaten this man........is it really worth "informing" him.........i meen one or two posts would have been efficent......wow.......i meen we could just stone him and get it over with........he is going to make a choice to keep the fish regardless of what has been repeated 20 different times and this was determined after he read two diffrent peoples opinions..........so please refrain from quoting me and explaining "how its your moral obligation to stop this travesty, and D0c, you need to be on the same page".....because you know what i do not care.......he posted some stupid pics......he was warned move on........
Noc can you sound any whiter "saltwater fish game".........Dude this is not Big and Pac scrapping about what Pac was doin with Faith nor is it "crack slangin on the east side of compton"......this is a hobbie for tools ,like myself, that get off on finding a feather duster in there 2lb $50 piece of live rock.........
.....so for those who forgot what this hobbie is all about.......enjoyment ....... here is a picture for reference.......FIN :happyfish
Take it easy (white)
Im out Dawg (really white)
 
symon

symon

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You tell them Doc! I mean really folks, if the guy wants to put such fish together in a tank that is to small, that is completely up to him! I personaly wouldn't do that, nor would most of you! But remember, part of this whole site is to see what other people have done and had success with. If you don't belive him, do like you would do on the street grin , shake your head and walk away talking to yourself ( silly boy )

I think his setup looks awsome, And i am jealous I want 2 60's!!!!

Ofcourse 1 would be my fuge
So ease up on the man, give him the benifit of the doubt, and as SoOO High says, stop hatin!
 
nokturnal1

nokturnal1

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DONT BE JEALOUS LOOK SYMON GIME YOUR E MAIL I WILL GIVE YOU INFO 4 2 60 GALLONS TANK AND COMPLET WITH
2 WET& DRY SUMP
2 PROTEIN SKIMERS WITH 2 UV STERILIZER
2 POWERHEAD 4 IN 1
2 GULFS TREAM MAGFLOAT
80 LBS LIVE SAND
DESIRED $1.99 LBS FOR LIVE ROCK
2 HEATER 150 WATT
BUT NO LIGHT NO CANAPIT OR STAND
ALL FOR $1.399 OR 1 60 GALLONS TANK COMPLET FOR $699
SAME THING I HAVE.

Originally Posted by Symon
You tell them Doc! I mean really folks, if the guy wants to put such fish together in a tank that is to small, that is completely up to him! I personaly wouldn't do that, nor would most of you! But remember, part of this whole site is to see what other people have done and had success with. If you don't belive him, do like you would do on the street grin , shake your head and walk away talking to yourself ( silly boy )

I think his setup looks awsome, And i am jealous I want 2 60's!!!!

Ofcourse 1 would be my fuge
So ease up on the man, give him the benifit of the doubt, and as SoOO High says, stop hatin!
 
njfish77

njfish77

Member
hahahaha i love the way you think people are jealous its pretty funny.noone is jealous there ashamed(to have peaople like you in this hobby)but like doc said do what ya want its going to be your fish loss.pretty cool eels doc by the way
 
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