Now I am mad

socal57che

socal57che

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Originally Posted by 1knight164
http:///forum/post/2758025
I say let them keep running the ad. It will piss off more old folk and they'll vote McCain.

Um...methinks the "old folk" already dislike Barack Hussein Obama.

Of course the "old folk" have been around long enough to know that they can't trust senor McCain either.
 
el guapo

el guapo

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I can use a blackberry , Email and the internet .I can set the timer on the VCR and microwave . I can google just about anything . I guess I should have run .
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Yep, McCain knows nothing about technology. Here's a couple articles from back in 2000
http://www.slate.com/id/74812/
Six months ago, no one would have pegged McCain as the most cybersavvy of this year's crop of candidates. At 63, he is the oldest of the bunch and because of his war injuries, he is limited in his ability to wield a keyboard. But McCain's job as chairman of the Senate commerce committee forced him to learn about the Internet early on, and young Web entrepreneurs such as Jerry Yang and Jeff Bezos fascinate him. Well before he announced his exploratory committee, McCain had assimilated the notion that the Web could be vital to the kind of insurgent, anti-establishment campaign he wanted to run. In December 1998, he sent his longtime political aide Wes Gullett to Minnesota to study Jesse Ventura's successful gubernatorial campaign, which was the first to use the Web in an effective and innovative way. "Wes went up to Minnesota and talked to Ventura's people," McCain told reporters on the Straight Talk Express yesterday. "That's really where we got the idea."
http://www.forbes.com/asap/2000/0529/053_print.html
"In certain ways, McCain was a natural Web candidate. Chairman of the Senate Telecommunications Subcommittee and regarded as the U.S. Senate's savviest technologist, McCain is an inveterate devotee of email. His nightly ritual is to read his email together with his wife, Cindy. The injuries he incurred as a Vietnam POW make it painful for McCain to type. Instead, he dictates responses that his wife types on a laptop. "She's a whiz on the keyboard, and I'm so laborious," McCain admits."
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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BTW the senior class in the USA is one of ,if not the biggest voting base.
Way to go Obama ,insult the senior citizen voters.I hope they can remember how to use a dangling chad machine
 
beth

beth

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There are many senior citizens that get around a computer quite well. Actually, the computer has opened doors for many seniors giving them entertainment at home, a means of sharing with loved ones that live far way, etc.
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2755165
It is a valid ad. Was aired on national TV.
Here is the news story about it praising Obama as usual
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=5785969
My problem with it is it implies he can't use a computer because he is dumb, he can't use a computer because he was so badly tortured he can't move his arms properly anymore and can't type on a keyboard because of the injuries sustained from being a POW. The rest I don't care about, but the computer comment is a low blow.
Further more if being computer inadequate means you aren't qualified to handle internet security, then never serving in the military, never flying a plane, and never shooting a gun at an enemy means you aren't qualified to handle our national defense from a military aspect. THAT is my problem.
I'm going to have to disagree with you... on 2 fronts...
1. being disabled doesn't prevent you from using a computer, and McCain not being able to lift his arms above his shoulders isn't a logical reason for not being able to type on a keyboard.
2. the basis of the argument is that McCain is out of touch... If he can't use a computer... in a computer age... then there is a problem... and if the leader of the most advanced nation on earth lacks these skills than he shouldn't be the leader...
If I were McCain... I'd invest in some computer lessons/courses... and send a mass email to his supporters detailing that I (McCain) has just sent a million emails and how he is not computer literate...
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2756975
I wont even waste my time on your cut and paste from Wikipedia

If you bothered to read the post I said about half way through 07 is when the economy started down,
Here's the unemployment rates starting in january of 06, a year before the dems took over.
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/UNRATE.txt
2006-01-01 4.7
2006-02-01 4.7
2006-03-01 4.7
2006-04-01 4.7
2006-05-01 4.7
2006-06-01 4.6
2006-07-01 4.7
2006-08-01 4.7
2006-09-01 4.5
2006-10-01 4.4
2006-11-01 4.5
2006-12-01 4.4
2007-01-01 4.6 Democrats take control
2007-02-01 4.5
2007-03-01 4.4
2007-04-01 4.5
2007-05-01 4.5
2007-06-01 4.6
2007-07-01 4.7
2007-08-01 4.7
2007-09-01 4.7
2007-10-01 4.8
2007-11-01 4.7
2007-12-01 5.0
2008-01-01 4.9
2008-02-01 4.8
2008-03-01 5.1
2008-04-01 5.0
2008-05-01 5.5
2008-06-01 5.5
2008-07-01 5.7
2008-08-01 6.1
Jobs data
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/Surv..._view=net_1mth
January to december
Jobs created in thousands
2003 83 -158 -212 -49 -6 -2 25 -42 103 203 18 124
2004 142 27 334 270 282 89 112 83 176 359 63 144
2005 125 209 119 332 177 261 368 213 110 105 361 152
2006 232 273 259 147 22 94 262 191 165 73 182 199
Democrat control
2007 126 25 177 46 162 107 57 74 81 140 60 41
2008 -76 -83 -88 -67 -47 -100 -60(p) -84(p)
Average gas prices
January 2 2006 223.6
January 1 2007 229.6 Democrats take control
January 7 2008 308.8
Yep, Democrats have been great

YOu can't blame democrats for Bush policy and things that had already been set in motion... the mortage situation finally caught up to everyone, as well as the deregulation of the energy markets. There was nothing that changed from the end of 2006 until now that you can contribute to this congress... except for maybe the Stimulus package. You can also look at gas and how it has risen since 2001, with the most dramatic leap I believe in 2005.
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2758324
YOu can't blame democrats for Bush policy and things that had already been set in motion... the mortage situation finally caught up to everyone, as well as the deregulation of the energy markets. There was nothing that changed from the end of 2006 until now that you can contribute to this congress... except for maybe the Stimulus package. You can also look at gas and how it has risen since 2001, with the most dramatic leap I believe in 2005.
What policy exactly do you disagree with?
 
oceansidefish

oceansidefish

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2757647
And all it takes for that contract to be pulled is a politician cutting the budget...
Obama said he would cut funding for "unproven missile defense programs".
They can't cut it it's already paid for....Besides this is a PROVEN missile defense program. You really need to stop saying Obama is going to cut funding to our silo program because it's just not true. I am NOT defending Obama but I don't believe in spreading falsehoods about anything. Our missle defense systems are currently being retrofitted with anti-terrorism measures which include plungers to keep people out of them. They are all already built whether anyone thinks so or not or thinks that their funding can be cut. Besides it's part of our defense budget already and Obama cannot really cut it all by his onsies now can he!
 
1knight164

1knight164

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Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2758084
Um...methinks the "old folk" already dislike Barack Hussein Obama.

Of course the "old folk" have been around long enough to know that they can't trust senor McCain either.

You're right on one part, senior citizens didn't like either. They wanted Hillary. Haven't seen the latest figures but June showed McCain with 44% of senior votes compared to Obama's 37%. Obama could lose a lot of his 37%. Florida has the largest senior population and have gone from toss-up to leaning towards McCain. And seniors are more likely to actually vote, and not just talk, than any other age group. Last election 70%+ seniors voted compared to 32% for the youngest age group. That young age group is Obama's strength.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2758161
BTW the senior class in the USA is one of ,if not the biggest voting base.
Way to go Obama ,insult the senior citizen voters.I hope they can remember how to use a dangling chad machine

This has amazed me too. They should have ignored Palin's experience and McCains age as well. Just demonstrates they know they can't win on the issues. Both are pretty risky moves at this point.
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Oceansidefish
http:///forum/post/2758341
They can't cut it it's already paid for....Besides this is a PROVEN missile defense program. You really need to stop saying Obama is going to cut funding to our silo program because it's just not true. I am NOT defending Obama but I don't believe in spreading falsehoods about anything. Our missle defense systems are currently being retrofitted with anti-terrorism measures which include plungers to keep people out of them. They are all already built whether anyone thinks so or not or thinks that their funding can be cut. Besides it's part of our defense budget already and Obama cannot really cut it all by his onsies now can he!
Sounds like we are talking about two different things...
I'm referring to the Missile Defense System scheduled to be deployed to protect against incoming ICBMs.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2758324
YOu can't blame democrats for Bush policy and things that had already been set in motion... the mortage situation finally caught up to everyone, as well as the deregulation of the energy markets. There was nothing that changed from the end of 2006 until now that you can contribute to this congress... except for maybe the Stimulus package. You can also look at gas and how it has risen since 2001, with the most dramatic leap I believe in 2005.
What has congress done to stop the slide? N O T H I N G, The stimulus package was a Bush proposal. The dramatic leap in gas prices in 2005 was a result of Katrina and it came back down after that. In January 05 it was 180, peaked at 305 in September due to the shutdowns from the hurricanes and pulled back to the low 220's in december.
 
squidward

squidward

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Originally Posted by GrouperGenius
http:///forum/post/2757878
That's why the world hates us.......Who tells you that??? Certainly it can't be the thousands that flock here every day????
(Sorry to sound racist or bigoted, this next statement is not meant to be that way but may be misconstrued by some.)
Every time you walk into a convenient store and see a Foriegn Individual who looks very much Arab, Indian, Pakistani, etc....why don't you ask them why they are in this Country that is so greatly hated by the rest of the world. Ask them why they left the Country of their birth.
Ask them if they are going back......I have. They like it here. And it's the folks like you that are under some belief that we should be hated, that need to go take these good folks old jobs in their wonderful homeland.
I'm talking about what the rest of the world thinks of us TODAY cause of bush. I'm not talking about people who live here.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by Squidward
http:///forum/post/2758656
I'm talking about what the rest of the world thinks of us TODAY cause of bush. I'm not talking about people who live here.

I m tired of the rest of the world argument. Is the rest of the world going to pay for the healthcare, social security, and our national debt? NO....then why does their opinion matter?
 
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