Obama is the president elect Please use this thread to talk about and discuss it

zman1

Active Member
Give the President-Elect a chance to actually take the oath on 1-20-09. You guys are acting like the campaign is still going on, it's over....
I will say, I though McCain's concession speech was excellent.
Had to edit the year - 09 -LOL
 

michaeltx

Moderator
Originally Posted by zman1
http:///forum/post/2827680
Give the President-Elect a chance to actually take the oath on 1-20-08. You guys are acting like the campaign is still going on, it's over....
I will say, I though McCain's concession speech was excellent.
I have to agree he even held off some of the booing when it started. He said he will work with the pres-elect only time will tell if it was just a show or not.
Mike
 

socal57che

Active Member

Originally Posted by MichaelTX
http:///forum/post/2827490
Barracks stances on gay rights
http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm
Gay Rights

Opposes CA Prop. 8, one-man-one-woman marriage. (Jul 2008)
Being gay or lesbian is not a choice. (Nov 2007)
Decisions about marriage should be left to the states. (Oct 2007)
Homosexuality no more immoral than heterosexuality. (Oct 2007)
Ok to expose 6-year-olds to gay couples; they know already. (Sep 2007)
Has any marriage broken up because two gays hold hands? (Aug 2007)
We need strong civil unions, not just weak civil unions. (Aug 2007)
Legal rights for gays are conferred by state, not by church. (Aug 2007)
Disentangle gay rights from the word "marriage". (Aug 2007)
Gay marriage is less important that equal gay rights. (Aug 2007)
Gay rights movement is somewhat like civil rights movement. (Aug 2007)
Let each denominations decide on recognizing gay marriage. (Jul 2007)
Pass ENDA and expand hate crime legislation. (Mar 2007)
Opposed 1996 Illinois DOMA bill. (Mar 2007)
Supports health benefits for gay civil partners. (Oct 2006)
Opposes gay marriage; supports civil union & gay equality. (Oct 2006)
Marriage not a human right; non-discrimination is. (Oct 2004)
Include sexual orientation in anti-discrimination laws. (Jul 1998)
Voting Record

Strengthen the Americans with Disabilities Act. (Aug 2007)
Voted NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on constitutional ban of same---- marriage. (Jun 2006)
Ending racial profiling is part of fight for justice. (Jan 2001)
Sponsored bill for special-needs evacuation plans. (Sep 2005)
Sponsored bill for a Rosa Parks commemorative postage stamp. (Dec 2005)
Rated 89% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance. (Dec 2006)
Rated 100% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006)
Recognize Juneteenth as historical end of slavery. (Jun 2008)
Provide benefits to domestic partners of Federal employees. (Dec 2007)
Re-introduce the Equal Rights Amendment. (Mar 2007)
Reinforce anti-discrimination and equal-pay requirements. (Jan 2008)
 

michaeltx

Moderator
your post went alittle more in detail than what mine did but its from 2 different sources both show that he is for gay rights eitherway.
Mike
 

wfd1008

Member
i'm just spitting this out there, but wouldn't it be cool if Obama ask McCain to be a member of his cabinet? That would definately be crossing party lines. If he did, would John accept the offer?
 

michaeltx

Moderator
Originally Posted by wfd1008
http:///forum/post/2827767
i'm just spitting this out there, but wouldn't it be cool if Obama ask McCain to be a member of his cabinet? That would definately be crossing party lines. If he did, would John accept the offer?
well McCain said that he would do anything to help him out but I think there are to many differences for it be a good thing to do.
 

wfd1008

Member
Originally Posted by MichaelTX
http:///forum/post/2827772
well McCain said that he would do anything to help him out but I think there are to many differences for it be a good thing to do.
you probably are right, i guess it's just a little wishful thinking. even though i didn't vote red, i think there might be some useful wisdom under that old man's hat.
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by wfd1008
http:///forum/post/2827767
i'm just spitting this out there, but wouldn't it be cool if Obama ask McCain to be a member of his cabinet? That would definately be crossing party lines. If he did, would John accept the offer?
You mean like when kerry offered him the veep spot. Now that mccain doesn't have a chance to get nominated again, he may just take it.
 

socal57che

Active Member
Originally Posted by wfd1008
http:///forum/post/2827767
i'm just spitting this out there, but wouldn't it be cool if Obama ask McCain to be a member of his cabinet? That would definately be crossing party lines. If he did, would John accept the offer?

Originally Posted by MichaelTX
http:///forum/post/2827772
well McCain said that he would do anything to help him out but I think there are to many differences for it be a good thing to do.

Originally Posted by wfd1008

http:///forum/post/2827787
you probably are right, i guess it's just a little wishful thinking. even though i didn't vote red, i think there might be some useful wisdom under that old man's hat.
Conservatives already considered him a democrat anyway, so I wouldn't be surprised if McCain asked for a position.
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2827116
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Anyone notice the stark contrast between the crowd at the McCain rally and the Obama rally in the park? I don't think there was a single non white at McCain's rally and I find this to be rather telling.
I bet there aren't any terrorists there either
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2827132
That conservatives are out of touch with an American base that is becoming more progressive. My point was that the McCain crowd is an example of who his base is...white, evangelical, under educated and has zero diversity. Based on the exist polls I saw, Obama had a lot more support from college eductated white Americans and I think this is a great thing!
Just keep thinking that way
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2827800
Conservatives already considered him a democrat anyway, so I wouldn't be surprised if McCain asked for a position.
+1
Of course this won't happen but maybe they'll figure out that being a reach across the isle sellout isn't going to win you any elections or approval points, (see W Bush).
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2827201
Oprah was in the front row. She announced after the rally that her show today was exclusively about the election because she could now "speak freely of her beliefs." Rev. Jackson was right behind her, tears in his eyes. When they interviewed him, his comment was 'My Son did good today. All is right with the world'".
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I about puked when I read that. Jackson is a two faced lying SOB. Just a few months ago he was saying he was going to castrate Obama, what a phony
Okrah is OK. Classy lady even if I do think she is a poor judge of political character
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/2827462
i believe Barack has a chance to not only unite black and white Americans but unite the global population. we'll ALWAYS have our close minded groups and individuals and will never have a utopia, but the fact that he IS PRESIDENT ELECT and the WORLD was celebrating his win are great signs that we as a human race or advancing.

A politician will never be able to do it. If he makes much of a push for programs minorities favor whites will see it as favoritism and if he doesn't he will be branded as a sell out. No win situation
 

michaeltx

Moderator
I think they should do away with party lines and start acting as elevted officials and do what they people want not the party!!
Mike
 

socal57che

Active Member
Originally Posted by MichaelTX
http:///forum/post/2827856
I think they should do away with party lines and start acting as elevted officials and do what they people want not the party!!
Mike
I think that's all any of us want.
Politicians, PAY ATTENTION HERE!!!
 
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