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1journeyman
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Originally Posted by Squidward
http:///forum/post/2828447
Let's see...last time I heard, they only get Armed Forces Radio .....
They only get armed forces radio? When was the last time you heard, during the Korean War?
http:///forum/post/2828447
Let's see...last time I heard, they only get Armed Forces Radio .....
They only get armed forces radio? When was the last time you heard, during the Korean War?
tang master
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el guapo
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Originally Posted by Tang Master
http:///forum/post/2828689
Now that's offensive . Funny but offensive .
http:///forum/post/2828689
Now that's offensive . Funny but offensive .
tang master
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socal57che
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Originally Posted by bigarn
http:///forum/post/2828723
no, just offensive.
Everything is relative. It is only offensive if you let it be.
(if the world hates you, remember that it hated Me first)
http:///forum/post/2828723
no, just offensive.
Everything is relative. It is only offensive if you let it be.
(if the world hates you, remember that it hated Me first)
tang master
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Nice! didn't think of that.
1knight164
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Originally Posted by Squidward
http:///forum/post/2828447
Let's see...last time I heard, they only get Armed Forces Radio which is partisan radio. They don't allow the left/progressive view to be heard. I'm sure there were misinformation being promoted as well so it doesn't surprise me they voted like that.
The world will look up to the US again. I don't call that getting weaker. You fail.
Wrong on the Armed Forces Radio. Internet and satellite TV everywhere. Hard for any military member to vote for a guy whose party wants to cut the military budget 25%.
Also, did you hear that Putin wants to be re-elected? Wonder why. Could it be that he sees a weaker America and a chance to put Russia on top now that Bush is gone and McCain lost? It's just a matter of time before they move their missiles if they aren't already doing so now. It also makes me wonder why guys like Hugo Chavez and Ahmadinejad wanted Obama to win. They wouldn't be able to push McCain around.
The world is happy McCain lost, especially our enemies. They want the US to be weak. They don't want to look up to the US, they want to look down on us. I can't think of any reason why other countries want us to be the greatest nation on earth. Hold on to your hats. Joe Biden may get his wish soon.
http:///forum/post/2828447
Let's see...last time I heard, they only get Armed Forces Radio which is partisan radio. They don't allow the left/progressive view to be heard. I'm sure there were misinformation being promoted as well so it doesn't surprise me they voted like that.
The world will look up to the US again. I don't call that getting weaker. You fail.
Wrong on the Armed Forces Radio. Internet and satellite TV everywhere. Hard for any military member to vote for a guy whose party wants to cut the military budget 25%.
Also, did you hear that Putin wants to be re-elected? Wonder why. Could it be that he sees a weaker America and a chance to put Russia on top now that Bush is gone and McCain lost? It's just a matter of time before they move their missiles if they aren't already doing so now. It also makes me wonder why guys like Hugo Chavez and Ahmadinejad wanted Obama to win. They wouldn't be able to push McCain around.
The world is happy McCain lost, especially our enemies. They want the US to be weak. They don't want to look up to the US, they want to look down on us. I can't think of any reason why other countries want us to be the greatest nation on earth. Hold on to your hats. Joe Biden may get his wish soon.
sickboy
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Originally Posted by 1knight164
http:///forum/post/2828888
Wrong on the Armed Forces Radio. Internet and satellite TV everywhere. Hard for any military member to vote for a guy whose party wants to cut the military budget 25%.
Hey, even McCain said there was a bunch of waste, in fact, wasn't that one of his accomplishments that he kept bringing up was cutting excesses out of Military contracts?
Originally Posted by 1knight164
http:///forum/post/2828888
Also, did you hear that Putin wants to be re-elected? Wonder why. Could it be that he sees a weaker America and a chance to put Russia on top now that Bush is gone and McCain lost? It's just a matter of time before they move their missiles if they aren't already doing so now. It also makes me wonder why guys like Hugo Chavez and Ahmadinejad wanted Obama to win. They wouldn't be able to push McCain around.
You are assuming that Putin ever gave up control. Well he didn't, and now he just wants to make it look like his people want him in control.
Originally Posted by 1knight164
http:///forum/post/2828888
The world is happy McCain lost, especially our enemies. They want the US to be weak. They don't want to look up to the US, they want to look down on us. I can't think of any reason why other countries want us to be the greatest nation on earth. Hold on to your hats. Joe Biden may get his wish soon.
Could it be the world is happy because we aren't going to go around the globe doing as we see fit?? I see your point of view, but why do we have enemies in the first place? OUR foreign policy. They didn't just wake up one day and think to themselves, "I hate America." No, our presence all over the globe, and our bullying policy with the constant threat of military force is what makes people hate us. Don't want to believe it?? How many enemies does Canada have? Nobody picks on Canada because they play by the rules. We take away sovereignty of other countries, its no wonder why they hate us. Just look at Iraq. The UN said not to invade, but Bush went anyway on false intelligence. Really, stop thinking that we don't have anything to do with why so many people hate us.
And that is why they like Obama IMO, the same way they love Clinton. I know a guy that lived in Dubai for 5 years (just moved back to Omaha a couple months ago) and he was telling me about how there were massive crowds when Clinton came to speak b/c everyone loved him, they hate bush.
I am not saying some of our policy isn't needed. I fully support being in Afghanistan, but had we not went to Iraq, we could be done in Afghanistan already. Our protection is paramount, but can't we do it a little more tactfully and with international support? Also, what will make us more safe: Us telling people what to do, or working with people to get things done? I vote the latter.
http:///forum/post/2828888
Wrong on the Armed Forces Radio. Internet and satellite TV everywhere. Hard for any military member to vote for a guy whose party wants to cut the military budget 25%.
Hey, even McCain said there was a bunch of waste, in fact, wasn't that one of his accomplishments that he kept bringing up was cutting excesses out of Military contracts?
Originally Posted by 1knight164
http:///forum/post/2828888
Also, did you hear that Putin wants to be re-elected? Wonder why. Could it be that he sees a weaker America and a chance to put Russia on top now that Bush is gone and McCain lost? It's just a matter of time before they move their missiles if they aren't already doing so now. It also makes me wonder why guys like Hugo Chavez and Ahmadinejad wanted Obama to win. They wouldn't be able to push McCain around.
You are assuming that Putin ever gave up control. Well he didn't, and now he just wants to make it look like his people want him in control.
Originally Posted by 1knight164
http:///forum/post/2828888
The world is happy McCain lost, especially our enemies. They want the US to be weak. They don't want to look up to the US, they want to look down on us. I can't think of any reason why other countries want us to be the greatest nation on earth. Hold on to your hats. Joe Biden may get his wish soon.
Could it be the world is happy because we aren't going to go around the globe doing as we see fit?? I see your point of view, but why do we have enemies in the first place? OUR foreign policy. They didn't just wake up one day and think to themselves, "I hate America." No, our presence all over the globe, and our bullying policy with the constant threat of military force is what makes people hate us. Don't want to believe it?? How many enemies does Canada have? Nobody picks on Canada because they play by the rules. We take away sovereignty of other countries, its no wonder why they hate us. Just look at Iraq. The UN said not to invade, but Bush went anyway on false intelligence. Really, stop thinking that we don't have anything to do with why so many people hate us.
And that is why they like Obama IMO, the same way they love Clinton. I know a guy that lived in Dubai for 5 years (just moved back to Omaha a couple months ago) and he was telling me about how there were massive crowds when Clinton came to speak b/c everyone loved him, they hate bush.
I am not saying some of our policy isn't needed. I fully support being in Afghanistan, but had we not went to Iraq, we could be done in Afghanistan already. Our protection is paramount, but can't we do it a little more tactfully and with international support? Also, what will make us more safe: Us telling people what to do, or working with people to get things done? I vote the latter.
nw2salt08
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Originally Posted by Mimzy
http:///forum/post/2827308
SILENCE!!!
I KEEEEEEEEEEELL YOU!!
This cracks me up....Achmed the Dead Terrorist.
Good one!
http:///forum/post/2827308
SILENCE!!!
I KEEEEEEEEEEELL YOU!!
This cracks me up....Achmed the Dead Terrorist.
nw2salt08
Active Member
Ok, I don't like where this military stuff is heading with a couple of the members so I don't think I'll be reading in here any more. My husband has been over there 5 times and believes that what he is doing is right for not only our country but for the countries he travels to. He is proud of what he's done and we didn't go to Iraq for nothing. I do, however, agree that it is time to pull out of there and move to Afghanistan. There are more troops being focused there now. Most of the units leaving here have been going to Afghanistan. This is coming from an Army wife's mouth with some inside info. They are rotating units to go to Iraq until we pull out completely. I support my husband and our troops. Iraq is a lot quieter now than it was. They're pushing paper over there right now. Not too much excitement.
socal57che
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Originally Posted by Nw2Salt08
http:///forum/post/2829011
Ok, I don't like where this military stuff is heading with a couple of the members so I don't think I'll be reading in here any more. My husband has been over there 5 times and believes that what he is doing is right for not only our country but for the countries he travels to. He is proud of what he's done and we didn't go to Iraq for nothing. I do, however, agree that it is time to pull out of there and move to Afghanistan. There are more troops being focused there now. Most of the units leaving here have been going to Afghanistan. This is coming from an Army wife's mouth with some inside info. They are rotating units to go to Iraq until we pull out completely. I support my husband and our troops. Iraq is a lot quieter now than it was. They're pushing paper over there right now. Not too much excitement.
Please tell your husband I said "thank you" when you see him.
http:///forum/post/2829011
Ok, I don't like where this military stuff is heading with a couple of the members so I don't think I'll be reading in here any more. My husband has been over there 5 times and believes that what he is doing is right for not only our country but for the countries he travels to. He is proud of what he's done and we didn't go to Iraq for nothing. I do, however, agree that it is time to pull out of there and move to Afghanistan. There are more troops being focused there now. Most of the units leaving here have been going to Afghanistan. This is coming from an Army wife's mouth with some inside info. They are rotating units to go to Iraq until we pull out completely. I support my husband and our troops. Iraq is a lot quieter now than it was. They're pushing paper over there right now. Not too much excitement.
Please tell your husband I said "thank you" when you see him.
cowfishrule
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Good Times, Noodle Salad.
nw2salt08
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I will. He loves the support. I'm very proud of him and all of our friends. Please,if everyone wants to give back, send a care package for the holidays. It means the world to the men and women to show that you care. If you need help doing so you can pm me.
These politics are very touchy and when it comes to the military that's where I draw the line. I want progress just like everyone else and do believe that it will happen or Obama can just get impeached for all I care. He's not my husband or my friends. They mean more to me than any president.
These politics are very touchy and when it comes to the military that's where I draw the line. I want progress just like everyone else and do believe that it will happen or Obama can just get impeached for all I care. He's not my husband or my friends. They mean more to me than any president.
socal57che
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Originally Posted by Nw2Salt08
http:///forum/post/2829047
I will. He loves the support. I'm very proud of him and all of our friends. Please,if everyone wants to give back, send a care package for the holidays. It means the world to the men and women to show that you care. If you need help doing so you can pm me.
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I will. He loves the support. I'm very proud of him and all of our friends. Please,if everyone wants to give back, send a care package for the holidays. It means the world to the men and women to show that you care. If you need help doing so you can pm me.
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1knight164
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Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2828914
Hey, even McCain said there was a bunch of waste, in fact, wasn't that one of his accomplishments that he kept bringing up was cutting excesses out of Military contracts?
Cutting excesses and controlling spending, yes. Cutting budget, no. McCain stopped a contract with Boeing because he uncovered a cozy relationship with a top Air Force Officer and a Boeing Exec. They're both in jail. I don't think anyone ever wants to hear stories like "not enough body armor" again, do you? We have to stay ahead.
You are assuming that Putin ever gave up control. Well he didn't, and now he just wants to make it look like his people want him in control.
You're right. He wants to make it official so he can officially mess with the US. He never saw the chance with Bush in office.
Could it be the world is happy because we aren't going to go around the globe doing as we see fit?? I see your point of view, but why do we have enemies in the first place? OUR foreign policy. They didn't just wake up one day and think to themselves, "I hate America."
So let's give Iran and North Korea nukes. That will make them happy and we can all sing kumbayah. And for radical islamist's who want all non-Muslims dead. How do we make them like us? Peace on earth is a great goal. But there's always someone out there that wants to ruin it.
No, our presence all over the globe, and our bullying policy with the constant threat of military force is what makes people hate us.
Our presence all over the globe keeps weaker, friendly countries safe. Do you think countries like Kuwait hate us because we're in the Persian Gulf? How about Georgia?
Don't want to believe it?? How many enemies does Canada have? Nobody picks on Canada because they play by the rules. We take away sovereignty of other countries, its no wonder why they hate us. Just look at Iraq.
Nobody hates Canada because Canada isn't a big military threat. They don't need a large military because they know we have their backs when it comes to their protection. This holds true for Mexico as well.
http:///forum/post/2828914
Hey, even McCain said there was a bunch of waste, in fact, wasn't that one of his accomplishments that he kept bringing up was cutting excesses out of Military contracts?
Cutting excesses and controlling spending, yes. Cutting budget, no. McCain stopped a contract with Boeing because he uncovered a cozy relationship with a top Air Force Officer and a Boeing Exec. They're both in jail. I don't think anyone ever wants to hear stories like "not enough body armor" again, do you? We have to stay ahead.
You are assuming that Putin ever gave up control. Well he didn't, and now he just wants to make it look like his people want him in control.
You're right. He wants to make it official so he can officially mess with the US. He never saw the chance with Bush in office.
Could it be the world is happy because we aren't going to go around the globe doing as we see fit?? I see your point of view, but why do we have enemies in the first place? OUR foreign policy. They didn't just wake up one day and think to themselves, "I hate America."
So let's give Iran and North Korea nukes. That will make them happy and we can all sing kumbayah. And for radical islamist's who want all non-Muslims dead. How do we make them like us? Peace on earth is a great goal. But there's always someone out there that wants to ruin it.
No, our presence all over the globe, and our bullying policy with the constant threat of military force is what makes people hate us.
Our presence all over the globe keeps weaker, friendly countries safe. Do you think countries like Kuwait hate us because we're in the Persian Gulf? How about Georgia?
Don't want to believe it?? How many enemies does Canada have? Nobody picks on Canada because they play by the rules. We take away sovereignty of other countries, its no wonder why they hate us. Just look at Iraq.
Nobody hates Canada because Canada isn't a big military threat. They don't need a large military because they know we have their backs when it comes to their protection. This holds true for Mexico as well.
The UN said not to invade, but Bush went anyway on false intelligence. Really, stop thinking that we don't have anything to do with why so many people hate us.Reasons for going into Iraq have been beaten like a dead horse in other threads as well. Intelligence came from many countries and considered reliable. Hussein violated 17 UN resolutions, etc.
And that is why they like Obama IMO, the same way they love Clinton. I know a guy that lived in Dubai for 5 years (just moved back to Omaha a couple months ago) and he was telling me about how there were massive crowds when Clinton came to speak b/c everyone loved him, they hate bush.
To be honest with you, I could care less what the rest of the world thinks of us. What I care about is what the enemy thinks of us. All those years of "velvet glove" approach led to nothing but attacks on US citizens around the world and eventually 9-11 because they considered us weak. If 9-11 happened to some other country, do you think those countries would be thinking the same way they do now? I'd bet they'd be asking for our help to go attack terrorists wherever they are. I thank Bush for not allowing another terrorist attack here in the states since.
Do you honestly believe that our enemies will play nice just because Obama becomes President??? They're going to test him like Biden said. I'm hoping Obama comes out strong and sends a message that he won't be pushed around. And as Commander-In-Chief, I hope he doesn't weaken our military. For the sake of our country, I WANT Obama to succeed. And if he can get others to stop hating us, that will work also. But that's a tall order.
I am not saying some of our policy isn't needed. I fully support being in Afghanistan, but had we not went to Iraq, we could be done in Afghanistan already.
I'm not going to go into the Afghanistan thing since I already covered my whole idea on another thread. In short, not as easy as you think. It was better drawing them into Iraq instead of fighting in those mountains. However, looks like that's where we're headed.
Our protection is paramount, but can't we do it a little more tactfully and with international support? Also, what will make us more safe: Us telling people what to do, or working with people to get things done? I vote the latter.
Forty-five countries either fought in or supported the war in Iraq while other countries remained anonymous. How many more do we need?
Look, i'm no politician nor have do I have any semblance of a political mind. I'm handicapped with a military mindset.
el guapo
Active Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2829015
Please tell your husband I said "thank you" when you see him.
Not only thank you to your husband .
But a big thank you to you too .
http:///forum/post/2829015
Please tell your husband I said "thank you" when you see him.
Not only thank you to your husband .
But a big thank you to you too .
socal57che
Active Member
Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/2829139
Not only thank you to your husband .
But a big thank you to you too .
Living near Pendleton, we see a lot of the families left here whilst the soldier is away. Some days it's obvious that they are worried.
We were in Taco Bell once and my youngest daughter sees a couple marines in line. She whispers "dad, are those guys heroes?" I tell her that they are indeed. She asks me if she can walk over and tell them thank you. As we leave, she walks up to these men and lays on the sweetest "thank you" you've ever heard. Their faces lit up with appreciation. I have great respect and admiration for the men and women who fight and sometimes die so I don't have to. Thank you both, and thank you to any US military or allied personnel that may be reading this. You guys ROCK!
http:///forum/post/2829139
Not only thank you to your husband .
But a big thank you to you too .
Living near Pendleton, we see a lot of the families left here whilst the soldier is away. Some days it's obvious that they are worried.
We were in Taco Bell once and my youngest daughter sees a couple marines in line. She whispers "dad, are those guys heroes?" I tell her that they are indeed. She asks me if she can walk over and tell them thank you. As we leave, she walks up to these men and lays on the sweetest "thank you" you've ever heard. Their faces lit up with appreciation. I have great respect and admiration for the men and women who fight and sometimes die so I don't have to. Thank you both, and thank you to any US military or allied personnel that may be reading this. You guys ROCK!