Obama now is considering cutting benefits for vets.

ironeagle2006

Active Member
Hydro I have a friend here in town that is ACTIVE duty and was wounded in Iraq recently right after Obama took over. He was given a medical discharge because of his wounds recieved and now the VA wants him to pay for his recovery now that he is no longer in the miltary.
 
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usirchchris

Guest
Originally Posted by Hydrodamoper
http:///forum/post/2986877
Please show me what legislation passed since Obama has been POTUS that has effected veteran's health care. I am not being rude, but I need to know, as I have a few appointments coming up next month at the VA, and I would hate to be stuck with a bill that I wasn't expecting to pay.
Call the VA. In order to file/mail the billings they would have to know what changes if any have been made.
 

wattsupdoc

Active Member
Originally Posted by usirchchris
http:///forum/post/2985887
I hate him. I hate him. I hate him...MORON...I hate him. I have disliked and disagreed with presidents before, but I just detest this one and path he is leading. Probably for me...because there is nothing to respect...nothing he has done should allow for him to make such decisions. Blood pressure out of control...going to try that recycling bin thingy now. Cannot wait to start voting these thugs out.
Ditto....
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2986057
Some, at least, were writing letters to the White House. Just as I do for local and state issues. A letter goes out to my assemblypeople, representatives and senators when I get wind of something like this. I live in a highly military populated area. Things like this hit close to home. Just because we voice disgust now does not mean we didn't in the past.
Until I am president, no president will make every choice that I would. I didn't blindly follow GW, but in comparison, I would vote for him over Obama.
I was never aware W. was trying to actually cut Vets benefits.... I am not real fond of W. myself, but IMO he was tremendously better than this new gal.....
Originally Posted by usirchchris

http:///forum/post/2986067
I was not active on this board at that time....sorry. There were alot of things about Bush I did not like...but it is irrelevant when considering my feelings of the current admin.
Ditto....
Look I'm not a religious guy at all, but if someone where to draw horns on his head he would definitely have an erie similarity to , well...that evil red dude with horns...
BTW...Does anybody else see that Michelle looks even more evil than he does? I mean even when shes all dolled up and standing next to Oprah, she still looks like she wants to attack at the throat and squeeze the life out of something...It's like her mouth is holding back this huge arsenal of vicious canine teeth...that big butt shes got must be a ballast to down her prey and pin it....Just some observations I have made...
 

darthtang aw

Active Member
Here is an article back from late 2008 that Obama was considering cutting some things and raising costs to troops.
http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,182097,00.html
The basic summary:
TRICARE for Working-Age Retirees – Fees, co-payments and deductibles
would be raised for retirees under 62 to restore the relative costs
paid when TRICARE began in 1995. TRICARE Prime enrollment would be
raised to $550 a year for individuals from $230. Retiree families
would pay $1100 versus $460 today. Co-pays for doctor visits would
climb to $28 from $12 and users of TRICARE Standard and TRICARE Extra
would pay an annual deductible of $350 for an individual and $700 for
families. Congress has declined to support such increases for the past
three years.
Fees for Active Duty Families – Dependents of active duty members
enrolled in TRICARE Prime, the managed care network, would pay new
fees equal to 10 percent of the cost of health services obtained
either in military treatment facilities or through civilian network
providers. Total out of pocket costs would be capped, however.
To help offset these costs, dependents would receive a $500 non-
taxable allowance annually. Those who elect to use alternative health
insurance, rather than TRICARE, could apply the $500 toward their
health insurance premiums, co-payments or deductibles.
CBO estimates these fees would save $7 billion over 10 years and
encourage Prime enrollees to “use medical services prudently.” It also
would entice more spouses to enroll in employer-provided health plans
instead of TRICARE. The downside, CBO said, would be financial
difficulties for some Prime enrollees despite the cap on out-of-pocket
costs. Also, CBO said, spouses induced to rely on employer health
plans could see health coverage interrupted during military assignment
relocations.
TRICARE-For-Life Fees – The military’s health insurance supplement to
Medicare could see higher user costs. Under this option, beneficiaries
would pay the first $525 of yearly medical costs plus one half of the
next $4725 of costs charged to Medicare. So the extra out-of-pocket
cost for TFL users would be up to $2887.50 a year. This amount would
be indexed to rise with Medicare costs. The change would save $40
billion over 10 years. But CBO said it also could discourage some
patients from seeking preventive care or proper management of chronic
conditions. So it could negatively affect some patients’ health.
Tighten VA Enrollment – The VA healthcare system would be directed to
disenroll 2.3 million Priority Groups 7 and 8 — individuals who are
not poor and have no service-related medical needs. Estimated savings
would be $53 billion over 10 years but Medicare spending would rise by
$26 billion in the same period as elderly among these vets shifted to
Medicare.
CBO said 90 percent of these vets have other health care coverage. But
this change could leave up to 10 percent unable to find affordable
care.
I do not know if any of this has occurred yet, but he has considered cutting troop benefits now on two occasions....
But based off these reports, 100 billion would be saved over the course of 10 years. I can save you that much in 1 year...no extra funding to acorn and similar groups would be a good starter, also, the congressional delegation should pay a 5% deductable on each bill for their health insurance....but cutting congressional benefits would be wrong.
 

darthtang aw

Active Member
Originally Posted by wattsupdoc
http:///forum/post/2987015
Ditto....
I was never aware W. was trying to actually cut Vets benefits.... I am not real fond of W. myself, but IMO he was tremendously better than this new gal.....
Ditto....
Look I'm not a religious guy at all, but if someone where to draw horns on his head he would definitely have an erie similarity to , well...that evil red dude with horns...
BTW...Does anybody else see that Michelle looks even more evil than he does? I mean even when shes all dolled up and standing next to Oprah, she still looks like she wants to attack at the throat and squeeze the life out of something...It's like her mouth is holding back this huge arsenal of vicious canine teeth...that big butt shes got must be a ballast to down her prey and pin it....Just some observations I have made...

seriously, has it come to comments regarding their appearance on why they are bad? With that said, Cheney looked evil as well then.....give me a break. Grow up and use policy as a basis and please stop from kindergarten playground reasons for disliking someone........
You have no business engaging in a political debate/discussion with grown ups.
 

rslinger

Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2987030
seriously, has it come to comments regarding their appearance on why they are bad? With that said, Cheney looked evil as well then.....give me a break. Grow up and use policy as a basis and please stop from kindergarten playground reasons for disliking someone........
You have no business engaging in a political debate/discussion with grown ups.
WOW i can't believe I am saying this i argee with darth well said.
 

robn70

Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2986095
Old enough to see a very bad trend of the nationalization of the banks, the automotive industry, healthcare, insurance, the American workforce, etc., etc., etc.
I'll get busy looking through my old posts and word documents. Good thing I have the day off, eh Crimz?
This leads right to socialism..These are the same tactics that Hitler used in the 30's. Too bad majority of americans have blinders on.
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by Hydrodamoper
http:///forum/post/2986877
Please show me what legislation passed since Obama has been POTUS that has effected veteran's health care. I am not being rude, but I need to know, as I have a few appointments coming up next month at the VA, and I would hate to be stuck with a bill that I wasn't expecting to pay.
In the case of your friend it sound like he wanted to have his surgery done by his own surgeon. Does your local VA not have a surgeon that works for the hospital that can perform the surgery?
I couldn't find anything showing this was proposed. Of course had this been a Republican president the story would be the lead on NBC and on the front page of the times true or not.
 

wattsupdoc

Active Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2987030
seriously, has it come to comments regarding their appearance on why they are bad? With that said, Cheney looked evil as well then.....give me a break. Grow up and use policy as a basis and please stop from kindergarten playground reasons for disliking someone........
You have no business engaging in a political debate/discussion with grown ups.

I was not trying to debate anything. I said it was just an observation.
Why is it that every time someone says something that someone else doesn't want to see in a thread they start with the "grow up" thing? Now If you ask me that's pretty pathetic.
I never said they were bad because of their appearance. I never tried to insinuate that, I just made an observation.
I guess though if your wanting to make some left wing brownie points, my post would have been a good opportunity.
 

flpriest

Member
Originally Posted by Hydrodamoper
http:///forum/post/2986865
You do realize the difference between the two is that in the Bush visit the Marines were "at ease" (able to talk and move their body), while in the Obama's visit the Marines were at the position of "attention" (head and eye straight too the front, no talking, stand still...) correct?
I noticed this as well... I guess the President could have given them an at ease command...
 

darthtang aw

Active Member
Originally Posted by wattsupdoc
http:///forum/post/2987287
I was not trying to debate anything. I said it was just an observation.
Why is it that every time someone says something that someone else doesn't want to see in a thread they start with the "grow up" thing? Now If you ask me that's pretty pathetic.
I never said they were bad because of their appearance. I never tried to insinuate that, I just made an observation.
I guess though if your wanting to make some left wing brownie points, my post would have been a good opportunity.

Brownie points? Seriously? You obviously have not seen most of my points or you would know otherwise.
You said the "looked evil" Implying they were evil.....but what ever doesn't matter....
Reagan looked like a raisin, Kerry looks like Frankenstien, Bush looked like a Chimp, and clinton looked like a whino...........but what does the appearance have to do with a discussion regarding their policies...........absolutely nothing. You were just being incendiary and crass.....and I called you on it. THAT is the reason you responded as you did. Otherwise you would have just stated why you posted it and moved on instead of calling my response pathertic because I told you to grow up.
I fully expect the typical butt hurt rebuttal.....
 

briand7878

Member
Its to bad that this communist has never served or sacrificed anything in his life. It just re affirms my belief that this guys is not even an American.
 

gypsana

Active Member
Originally Posted by BRIAND7878
http:///forum/post/2989022
Its to bad that this communist has never served or sacrificed anything in his life. It just re affirms my belief that this guys is not even an American.

I agree! He hates this country and all those that support him should feel like traitors. I am going to get reamed for that statement but it is the absolute truth. How we can have a president that won't even solute our flag is an out and out scandal. I am getting more and more discouraged with the BS that goes on right in front of our faces and some people try to find excuses to say that these actions are warranted or ok.
one more time for good measure
 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
Originally Posted by jp30338
http:///forum/post/2989249
Well 2 out 3 americans belive he is doing a GREAT job

Monday, March 16, 2009
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 36% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-two percent (32%) now Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of +4, his lowest rating to date.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll
 

briand7878

Member
This country will wake up one day with a big socialist slap in the face. Take away our guns, makes peoples wages the same, overhaul medicine, take vets rights etc.... Maybe he should move to Germany. I will buy him a first class ticket.
 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2989531
heck with cutting their benefits. How about not even paying for their hospital visit. Yeah you fought and lost your limbs for the country. But we aren't going to pay to replace your prosthesis.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/2009031..._for_treatment
This is really pathetic,Its not so much that politicians are trying to save money in all the wrong places to boot but the fact that our soldiers have to wait for treatment and services that they should receive immediately without question or hassle.
 
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