obama the begger

darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Here's a nice comparative.  When it comes to who gets higher amounts of private donations, Obama only gets 14% of contributions over $2,500, while Romney gets 48% of the same type if donations.  Appears Obama gets the majority of his funding from his various SuperPAC's, those anonymous businesses whose employees contribute to a candidate that they normally wouldn't provide a donations to if they had to give them their personal funds.  What's the most depressing is both candidates have amassed over $1.3 BILLION since this article was reported.  Here people are complaining about wasteful government spending, and this year's Presidential election has thrown away probably more than $3 billion if you add all the money the other 7 or 8 Republican candidates spent this last year on their futile and failed attempts to win the Republican nomination. 
http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance
3 billion, donated for the purpose of running for office. This isn't government spending. This is money donated to campaigns to get people elected. Government has nothing to do with it. It isn't tax revenue, it is money voluntarily given.
I have no issue with this. If some schmuck wants to donate 2 million to a campaign it is their money. It is no different than a schmuck donating 2 million to have a mosque or temple built. It is their money given of thier own free will. And it is directed back into the economy.
 
deejeff442

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plus the fact that obama is flying around on our dime.romney dont have that luxury.yet obama is pan handling for every cent.$2 donation for a chance at dinner,$10 on his ad.every story on yahoo there is an ad for obama for donations. obviously he is done .stick a fork in him.thank god
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/393048/obama-the-begger/20#post_3494003
3 billion, donated for the purpose of running for office. This isn't government spending. This is money donated to campaigns to get people elected. Government has nothing to do with it. It isn't tax revenue, it is money voluntarily given.
I have no issue with this. If some schmuck wants to donate 2 million to a campaign it is their money. It is no different than a schmuck donating 2 million to have a mosque or temple built. It is their money given of thier own free will. And it is directed back into the economy.
I didn't say it was government spending. I equate it to wasteful government spending. This election reminds me of the Solyndra debacle. I don't care of its purpose. It's inconceivable that money like this is tossed away by individuals that never had a chance to win in the first place. These outrageous amounts only show why the average citizen can no longer run for a higher office. You need at least $100K just to run for a local City Council position these days. Mayorial candidates and state candidates are 7 figures at a minimum in any major metropolis. Our election process was never designed to be one that an elected position could be bought. Money and power are the name of the game.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393048/obama-the-begger/20#post_3494011
I didn't say it was government spending. I equate it to wasteful government spending. This election reminds me of the Solyndra debacle. I don't care of its purpose. It's inconceivable that money like this is tossed away by individuals that never had a chance to win in the first place. These outrageous amounts only show why the average citizen can no longer run for a higher office. You need at least $100K just to run for a local City Council position these days. Mayorial candidates and state candidates are 7 figures at a minimum in any major metropolis. Our election process was never designed to be one that an elected position could be bought. Money and power are the name of the game.
Trouble is if you take the candidate and PAC money out of politics who has the power to influence the elections?
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by deejeff442 http:///t/393048/obama-the-begger/20#post_3494010
plus the fact that obama is flying around on our dime.romney dont have that luxury.yet obama is pan handling for every cent.$2 donation for a chance at dinner,$10 on his ad.every story on yahoo there is an ad for obama for donations. obviously he is done .stick a fork in him.thank god
You are crazy. If the media had done it's job 4 years ago this buttflea wouldn't even had been the Democrat nominee. They are still covering for him with a few exceptions. We have a coverup over the Libyan attack and the media is taking a pass. Same deal with fast and furious. Remember the near nightly reports of the war death tolls when Bush was president? Did you know that better than 70% of the deaths in the Afghanistan war have occurred since 0bama's strategy was put in place? A couple weeks ago terrorists there blew up several Billion worth of jet fighters at one of our "secure" bases. You wont see that on the front page of the times or the lead in for the nightly news from New York. The same media that was so focused on us using harsh interrogation tactics on captured terrorists don't bat an eyelash at 0bama using a drone to blow suspected terrorist to hell as well as any innocents who are within 30 yards or so of them. They take the 0bama campaign's lead on such things as Romney doesn't pay his taxes or outsources jobs and never does bother to check to see if it's true, they just repeat it.
No, 0bama isn't done by a long shot. There are too many intellectually lazy people in this country willing to let themselves be fooled again.
 
deejeff442

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i heard dick morris yesterday.he sure thinks it wont be close but he also seems like a chatter box lune .but i would like to agree with him
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by deejeff442 http:///t/393048/obama-the-begger/20#post_3494089
i heard dick morris yesterday.he sure thinks it wont be close but he also seems like a chatter box lune .but i would like to agree with him
Yeah. A month ago I would have bet the house Romney would have a comfortable win. I am beginning to wonder. People are falling for 0bama's misdirection campaign. Given the last 4 years I didn't think there were enough complete fools voting to give 0bama another run at this given how bad he's done so far but people seem to be more interested in paying for college girl's birth control and phantom tax misdeeds by Romney than things like 10% unemployment for 3 years and the complete meltdown in the middle east. God help us.
 
theclemsonkid

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393048/obama-the-begger/20#post_3494118
Yeah. A month ago I would have bet the house Romney would have a comfortable win. I am beginning to wonder. People are falling for 0bama's misdirection campaign. Given the last 4 years I didn't think there were enough complete fools voting to give 0bama another run at this given how bad he's done so far but people seem to be more interested in paying for college girl's birth control and phantom tax misdeeds by Romney than things like 10% unemployment for 3 years and the complete meltdown in the middle east. God help us.
I wonder if Rush ever got the video tape of her having relations like he wanted...
 
slice

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Originally Posted by deejeff442 http:///t/393048/obama-the-begger/20#post_3494089
i heard dick morris yesterday.he sure thinks it wont be close but he also seems like a chatter box lune .but i would like to agree with him
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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/393048/obama-the-begger/20#post_3494147
Unfortunately, I also do not think it will be close.
More and more talking heads point to poll skewing according to metrics used in both the questions, the demographics targeted and result interpretation.
I don't know, I haven't looked that deep into it, but there is now a site that claims to "unskew" the raw data. I would like to believe their assertions; they show actual polling of Romney up by 7.8, but I dunno....
http://www.unskewedpolls.com/
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by Slice http:///t/393048/obama-the-begger/20#post_3494156
More and more talking heads point to poll skewing according to metrics used in both the questions, the demographics targeted and result interpretation.
I don't know, I haven't looked that deep into it, but there is now a site that claims to "unskew" the raw data. I would like to believe their assertions; they show actual polling of Romney up by 7.8, but I dunno....
http://www.unskewedpolls.com/
Yeah but even accounting for skewed polling demographics things are moving the Ossiah's way. I still have faith in the American people to wake up before election day but it's dimming.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Yeah but even accounting for skewed polling demographics things are moving the Ossiah's way. I still have faith in the American people to wake up before election day but it's dimming.
It won't happen. The Public is not well informed and is slowly turning into a dependant society. We will go the way of greece in less than 8 years. As well as missle defense Talks with Russia will take shape once someone isn't worried about reelection.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/393048/obama-the-begger/20#post_3494164
It won't happen. The Public is not well informed and is slowly turning into a dependant society. We will go the way of greece in less than 8 years. As well as missle defense Talks with Russia will take shape once someone isn't worried about reelection.
Yeah, I am going to pull my money out of the economy. I think gold and lead are looking better and better.
 
deejeff442

deejeff442

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iu feel the media is giving us these bs polls so the repubs say they wont bother voting and thier vote wont count. sickening how left the media is and all the cover ups they do for obama.still the one big thing i will always remember was pelosi saying we have to pass it to find out whats in it.that about sums it up
 
bang guy

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Originally Posted by Slice http:///t/393048/obama-the-begger/20#post_3494156
More and more talking heads point to poll skewing according to metrics used in both the questions, the demographics targeted and result interpretation.
I don't know, I haven't looked that deep into it, but there is now a site that claims to "unskew" the raw data. I would like to believe their assertions; they show actual polling of Romney up by 7.8, but I dunno....
http://www.unskewedpolls.com/
That's popular vote which is only loosly coupled to the electoral vote. I hope I wrong, I hope I'm way off, but I don't see it being very close.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Some of those state polls are skewed but the thing is if the media reports it some people will get discouraged and not vote. Voter suppression Democrat style.
 
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