armywife1314
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bionicarm im curious have you ever been in the military? and what job do you do that makes you such an expert on everything?
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1journeyman
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Watch the personal attacks all.
bionicarm
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Originally Posted by armywife1314
http:///forum/post/2639948
bionicarm im curious have you ever been in the military? and what job do you do that makes you such an expert on everything?
Military? Noooo. I'm was like Bush, hid in college to stay out of that political skirmish in Nam. Expert? Certainly no expert, with the exception that I probably have at least 20 years of world experience on most of the people who post on this site.
http:///forum/post/2639948
bionicarm im curious have you ever been in the military? and what job do you do that makes you such an expert on everything?
Military? Noooo. I'm was like Bush, hid in college to stay out of that political skirmish in Nam. Expert? Certainly no expert, with the exception that I probably have at least 20 years of world experience on most of the people who post on this site.
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2639941
What's laughable is that you actually associate Obama with this individual to the point that you make it sound like he would follow this guy's viewpoints and principles. Not only that, but the guy did this over 30 years ago. I'd have to go back and get the specifics of how they know one another, but if I recall, they were on some board or something. The Republicans are trying to damage Obama's credibility through association. Typical trash talking dirty politics.
Oil companies are being targeted, because right now that's where everyone's pocketbook is getting hit. People are ticked off they have to pay over $4.00/gallon for gas, and the company that sells it is making a profit? Wow, supply and demand, what a concept. If Pfizer rose the price of a presciption drug more than 50% over a year's timeframe, you'd hear people scream about that. Microsoft? What, 70% of the computers today run their OS. What's the alternative, MacOS?
Of course they have that big of a profit margin. Yet again, blame by association. I'm sure McCain has NO contributors that have large profit margins. Try again...
Obama call an unrepentant member of the Weather underground his friend, his words not mine. Obama and his wife took their children to a church where they were exposed to hate speech. His choice not mine. Obama considered Frank Marshal Davis a father figure according to his book.
Here's a sample of the poety his "father figure" read to him
The Red Army
“Show the marveling multitudes
Americans, British, all your allied brothers
How strong you are
How great you are
How your young tree of new unity
Planted twenty-five years ago
Bears today the golden fruit of victory!”
Davis also wrote pro communism pieces for a newspaper in Hawaii that was a known communist front and he was identified as a communist party member by the FBI.
Guess what the Weather Underground's stated agenda was? Promoting Marxism.
Think about Michelle Obama's speech "for the first time I am proud of America".
So, Obama is friends with Ayers, Davis he calls a father figure, He attended a church that preeches an anti American agenda for over 20 years and still refuses to rebuke their hateful agenda. Obama has received open support from the Democrat Socialists of America from the start, Tom Hayden, another Marxist organizer supports Obama through his Progressives for Obama.
Now maybe Obama isn't a communist/marxist or whatever but he certainly does seem to have a high tolerance for them and his political agenda is such that they all endorse him.
All that aside there are 3 reason I could never vote for the man
1. His support for the banning of all possession of hand guns
2. His opposition to any parental involvement regarding a minor child recieving an abortion unlees "perhaps if the child were very young, 12 or 13" and his vote against a law that would make it a crime for an adult to take a minor child to another state to avoid parental involvement laws.
3. His lack of foreign policy experience
Add the that the poor judgement he has shown in assiciating with a unrepentant member of a domestic terrorist group and not leaving that church years ago when Operah did. Makes McCain look pretty good to me.
http:///forum/post/2639941
What's laughable is that you actually associate Obama with this individual to the point that you make it sound like he would follow this guy's viewpoints and principles. Not only that, but the guy did this over 30 years ago. I'd have to go back and get the specifics of how they know one another, but if I recall, they were on some board or something. The Republicans are trying to damage Obama's credibility through association. Typical trash talking dirty politics.
Oil companies are being targeted, because right now that's where everyone's pocketbook is getting hit. People are ticked off they have to pay over $4.00/gallon for gas, and the company that sells it is making a profit? Wow, supply and demand, what a concept. If Pfizer rose the price of a presciption drug more than 50% over a year's timeframe, you'd hear people scream about that. Microsoft? What, 70% of the computers today run their OS. What's the alternative, MacOS?
Obama call an unrepentant member of the Weather underground his friend, his words not mine. Obama and his wife took their children to a church where they were exposed to hate speech. His choice not mine. Obama considered Frank Marshal Davis a father figure according to his book.
Here's a sample of the poety his "father figure" read to him
The Red Army
“Show the marveling multitudes
Americans, British, all your allied brothers
How strong you are
How great you are
How your young tree of new unity
Planted twenty-five years ago
Bears today the golden fruit of victory!”
Davis also wrote pro communism pieces for a newspaper in Hawaii that was a known communist front and he was identified as a communist party member by the FBI.
Guess what the Weather Underground's stated agenda was? Promoting Marxism.
Think about Michelle Obama's speech "for the first time I am proud of America".
So, Obama is friends with Ayers, Davis he calls a father figure, He attended a church that preeches an anti American agenda for over 20 years and still refuses to rebuke their hateful agenda. Obama has received open support from the Democrat Socialists of America from the start, Tom Hayden, another Marxist organizer supports Obama through his Progressives for Obama.
Now maybe Obama isn't a communist/marxist or whatever but he certainly does seem to have a high tolerance for them and his political agenda is such that they all endorse him.
All that aside there are 3 reason I could never vote for the man
1. His support for the banning of all possession of hand guns
2. His opposition to any parental involvement regarding a minor child recieving an abortion unlees "perhaps if the child were very young, 12 or 13" and his vote against a law that would make it a crime for an adult to take a minor child to another state to avoid parental involvement laws.
3. His lack of foreign policy experience
Add the that the poor judgement he has shown in assiciating with a unrepentant member of a domestic terrorist group and not leaving that church years ago when Operah did. Makes McCain look pretty good to me.
bionicarm
Active Member
The McCain supporter's seem to rail Obama on his economic policies. Here's his latest proposals from a speech today --
"Obama offered no new policies in his speech, which he read from teleprompters. Rather, he used the occasion to emphasize his economic differences with McCain and to summarize earlier proposals. They include raising income taxes on wealthy Americans, granting a $1,000 tax cut to most others, winding down the Iraq war, tightening credit card regulations and pumping more money into education, alternative fuels and infrastructure such as roads and bridges."
What's wrong with those? I imagine if you make a lot of money, you don't like his Robin Hood approach to assisting the middle and low income families in the country. You can also ask where he'll get the money for funding all these other proposals. Obama's answer -- "Obama said he would pay for all of his new proposals from sources including the higher taxes on wealthy Americans and an end to the Iraq war." Considering the billions of dollars we're funneling to this war, his proposals could be paid off in a couple of years. But then, where does McCain plan to get his money to fund all his pet projects?
Obama criticized McCain for originally opposing Bush's first-term tax cuts but now supporting their continuation. He said he would increase taxes on oil companies while McCain would reduce them.
"At a time when we're fighting two wars, when millions of Americans can't afford their medical bills or their tuition bills, when we're paying more than $4 a gallon for gas, the man who rails against government spending wants to spend $1.2 billion on a tax break for Exxon Mobil," Obama said. "That isn't just irresponsible. It's outrageous."
At a fundraiser in Richmond, Va., McCain noted that he supports a temporary suspension of the federal tax on gasoline, which Obama dismisses as a gimmick that will not bring down prices.
"Talk to somebody who owns a couple of trucks and makes a living with those trucks," McCain said. "Ask them whether they'd like to have some relief -- 18 1/2 cents per gallon for gasoline and 24 1/2 cents for diesel. They say it matters."
The two differed somewhat on energy production as well. Obama called for greater government investments "in a renewable energy policy that ends our addiction on foreign oil, provides real long-term relief from high fuel costs, and builds a green economy that could create up to five million well-paying jobs that can't be outsourced."
He did not mention nuclear power, although in the past he has said he would not rule out a greater role for nuclear energy.
McCain was more gung-ho about nuclear power and expanded domestic drilling for oil and natural gas. When a donor in Richmond summed up his advice as, "nuclear, and drill wherever we've got it," McCain responded: "You just gave my speech. Thank you, my friend."
"Obama offered no new policies in his speech, which he read from teleprompters. Rather, he used the occasion to emphasize his economic differences with McCain and to summarize earlier proposals. They include raising income taxes on wealthy Americans, granting a $1,000 tax cut to most others, winding down the Iraq war, tightening credit card regulations and pumping more money into education, alternative fuels and infrastructure such as roads and bridges."
What's wrong with those? I imagine if you make a lot of money, you don't like his Robin Hood approach to assisting the middle and low income families in the country. You can also ask where he'll get the money for funding all these other proposals. Obama's answer -- "Obama said he would pay for all of his new proposals from sources including the higher taxes on wealthy Americans and an end to the Iraq war." Considering the billions of dollars we're funneling to this war, his proposals could be paid off in a couple of years. But then, where does McCain plan to get his money to fund all his pet projects?
Obama criticized McCain for originally opposing Bush's first-term tax cuts but now supporting their continuation. He said he would increase taxes on oil companies while McCain would reduce them.
"At a time when we're fighting two wars, when millions of Americans can't afford their medical bills or their tuition bills, when we're paying more than $4 a gallon for gas, the man who rails against government spending wants to spend $1.2 billion on a tax break for Exxon Mobil," Obama said. "That isn't just irresponsible. It's outrageous."
At a fundraiser in Richmond, Va., McCain noted that he supports a temporary suspension of the federal tax on gasoline, which Obama dismisses as a gimmick that will not bring down prices.
"Talk to somebody who owns a couple of trucks and makes a living with those trucks," McCain said. "Ask them whether they'd like to have some relief -- 18 1/2 cents per gallon for gasoline and 24 1/2 cents for diesel. They say it matters."
The two differed somewhat on energy production as well. Obama called for greater government investments "in a renewable energy policy that ends our addiction on foreign oil, provides real long-term relief from high fuel costs, and builds a green economy that could create up to five million well-paying jobs that can't be outsourced."
He did not mention nuclear power, although in the past he has said he would not rule out a greater role for nuclear energy.
McCain was more gung-ho about nuclear power and expanded domestic drilling for oil and natural gas. When a donor in Richmond summed up his advice as, "nuclear, and drill wherever we've got it," McCain responded: "You just gave my speech. Thank you, my friend."
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2639941
What's laughable is that you actually associate Obama with this individual to the point that you make it sound like he would follow this guy's viewpoints and principles. Not only that, but the guy did this over 30 years ago. I'd have to go back and get the specifics of how they know one another, but if I recall, they were on some board or something. The Republicans are trying to damage Obama's credibility through association. Typical trash talking dirty politics.
Oil companies are being targeted, because right now that's where everyone's pocketbook is getting hit. People are ticked off they have to pay over $4.00/gallon for gas, and the company that sells it is making a profit? Wow, supply and demand, what a concept. If Pfizer rose the price of a presciption drug more than 50% over a year's timeframe, you'd hear people scream about that. Microsoft? What, 70% of the computers today run their OS. What's the alternative, MacOS?
Of course they have that big of a profit margin. Yet again, blame by association. I'm sure McCain has NO contributors that have large profit margins. Try again...
Oh, by the way in 2002 Ayers said he didn't regret setting bombs and said he wished they had set more. Obs took a 200.00 caqmpaign contribution from him that year
http:///forum/post/2639941
What's laughable is that you actually associate Obama with this individual to the point that you make it sound like he would follow this guy's viewpoints and principles. Not only that, but the guy did this over 30 years ago. I'd have to go back and get the specifics of how they know one another, but if I recall, they were on some board or something. The Republicans are trying to damage Obama's credibility through association. Typical trash talking dirty politics.
Oil companies are being targeted, because right now that's where everyone's pocketbook is getting hit. People are ticked off they have to pay over $4.00/gallon for gas, and the company that sells it is making a profit? Wow, supply and demand, what a concept. If Pfizer rose the price of a presciption drug more than 50% over a year's timeframe, you'd hear people scream about that. Microsoft? What, 70% of the computers today run their OS. What's the alternative, MacOS?
Oh, by the way in 2002 Ayers said he didn't regret setting bombs and said he wished they had set more. Obs took a 200.00 caqmpaign contribution from him that year
bionicarm
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2640128
Obama call an unrepentant member of the Weather underground his friend, his words not mine. Obama and his wife took their children to a church where they were exposed to hate speech. His choice not mine. Obama considered Frank Marshal Davis a father figure according to his book.
Here's a sample of the poety his "father figure" read to him
The Red Army
“Show the marveling multitudes
Americans, British, all your allied brothers
How strong you are
How great you are
How your young tree of new unity
Planted twenty-five years ago
Bears today the golden fruit of victory!”
Davis also wrote pro communism pieces for a newspaper in Hawaii that was a known communist front and he was identified as a communist party member by the FBI.
Guess what the Weather Underground's stated agenda was? Promoting Marxism.
Think about Michelle Obama's speech "for the first time I am proud of America".
So, Obama is friends with Ayers, Davis he calls a father figure, He attended a church that preeches an anti American agenda for over 20 years and still refuses to rebuke their hateful agenda. Obama has received open support from the Democrat Socialists of America from the start, Tom Hayden, another Marxist organizer supports Obama through his Progressives for Obama.
Now maybe Obama isn't a communist/marxist or whatever but he certainly does seem to have a high tolerance for them and his political agenda is such that they all endorse him.
All that aside there are 3 reason I could never vote for the man
1. His support for the banning of all possession of hand guns
2. His opposition to any parental involvement regarding a minor child recieving an abortion unlees "perhaps if the child were very young, 12 or 13" and his vote against a law that would make it a crime for an adult to take a minor child to another state to avoid parental involvement laws.
3. His lack of foreign policy experience
Add the that the poor judgement he has shown in assiciating with a unrepentant member of a domestic terrorist group and not leaving that church years ago when Operah did. Makes McCain look pretty good to me.
I own several guns, but I'm not an NRA fanatic. I've sat through the arguments about taking the guns from the people who adhere to the laws, and let the criminals who use them for the wrong reasons keep theirs. Have to agree with you somewhat on this one. But as deep as the NRA has their stronghold on Congress, any gun legislation would never get passed, no matter who proposed it.
Sorry, but I'm Pro Choice (that's yet another argument).
Also agree on the lack of foreign policy experience. However, whether it's Obama or McCain, it'll depend who they put on their Cabinet that will determine our future foreign policies. The President pretty much gets his advice from his Secretary of Defense and other foreign dignitaries.
http:///forum/post/2640128
Obama call an unrepentant member of the Weather underground his friend, his words not mine. Obama and his wife took their children to a church where they were exposed to hate speech. His choice not mine. Obama considered Frank Marshal Davis a father figure according to his book.
Here's a sample of the poety his "father figure" read to him
The Red Army
“Show the marveling multitudes
Americans, British, all your allied brothers
How strong you are
How great you are
How your young tree of new unity
Planted twenty-five years ago
Bears today the golden fruit of victory!”
Davis also wrote pro communism pieces for a newspaper in Hawaii that was a known communist front and he was identified as a communist party member by the FBI.
Guess what the Weather Underground's stated agenda was? Promoting Marxism.
Think about Michelle Obama's speech "for the first time I am proud of America".
So, Obama is friends with Ayers, Davis he calls a father figure, He attended a church that preeches an anti American agenda for over 20 years and still refuses to rebuke their hateful agenda. Obama has received open support from the Democrat Socialists of America from the start, Tom Hayden, another Marxist organizer supports Obama through his Progressives for Obama.
Now maybe Obama isn't a communist/marxist or whatever but he certainly does seem to have a high tolerance for them and his political agenda is such that they all endorse him.
All that aside there are 3 reason I could never vote for the man
1. His support for the banning of all possession of hand guns
2. His opposition to any parental involvement regarding a minor child recieving an abortion unlees "perhaps if the child were very young, 12 or 13" and his vote against a law that would make it a crime for an adult to take a minor child to another state to avoid parental involvement laws.
3. His lack of foreign policy experience
Add the that the poor judgement he has shown in assiciating with a unrepentant member of a domestic terrorist group and not leaving that church years ago when Operah did. Makes McCain look pretty good to me.
I own several guns, but I'm not an NRA fanatic. I've sat through the arguments about taking the guns from the people who adhere to the laws, and let the criminals who use them for the wrong reasons keep theirs. Have to agree with you somewhat on this one. But as deep as the NRA has their stronghold on Congress, any gun legislation would never get passed, no matter who proposed it.
Sorry, but I'm Pro Choice (that's yet another argument).
Also agree on the lack of foreign policy experience. However, whether it's Obama or McCain, it'll depend who they put on their Cabinet that will determine our future foreign policies. The President pretty much gets his advice from his Secretary of Defense and other foreign dignitaries.
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2640175
I own several guns, but I'm not an NRA fanatic. I've sat through the arguments about taking the guns from the people who adhere to the laws, and let the criminals who use them for the wrong reasons keep theirs. Have to agree with you somewhat on this one. But as deep as the NRA has their stronghold on Congress, any gun legislation would never get passed, no matter who proposed it.
Sorry, but I'm Pro Choice (that's yet another argument).
Also agree on the lack of foreign policy experience. However, whether it's Obama or McCain, it'll depend who they put on their Cabinet that will determine our future foreign policies. The President pretty much gets his advice from his Secretary of Defense and other foreign dignitaries.
Actually Obama favored a ban on all simiautomatics as well. I think the NRA is a hell of a lot mre reasonable than those on the other side but I still don't agree with them on everything.
I too am pro-choice except where it comes to underaged girls. I absolutly draw the line and take no prisoners when it comes to notification. There is absolutly no reason why a girl should ever be allowed to get an abortion without her parents knowing. A consent law is fine with me as long as there is judicial bypass. I personally would prefer simple notification laws. If the kid wants an abortion after talking with her parents that really is the best solution
http:///forum/post/2640175
I own several guns, but I'm not an NRA fanatic. I've sat through the arguments about taking the guns from the people who adhere to the laws, and let the criminals who use them for the wrong reasons keep theirs. Have to agree with you somewhat on this one. But as deep as the NRA has their stronghold on Congress, any gun legislation would never get passed, no matter who proposed it.
Sorry, but I'm Pro Choice (that's yet another argument).
Also agree on the lack of foreign policy experience. However, whether it's Obama or McCain, it'll depend who they put on their Cabinet that will determine our future foreign policies. The President pretty much gets his advice from his Secretary of Defense and other foreign dignitaries.
Actually Obama favored a ban on all simiautomatics as well. I think the NRA is a hell of a lot mre reasonable than those on the other side but I still don't agree with them on everything.
I too am pro-choice except where it comes to underaged girls. I absolutly draw the line and take no prisoners when it comes to notification. There is absolutly no reason why a girl should ever be allowed to get an abortion without her parents knowing. A consent law is fine with me as long as there is judicial bypass. I personally would prefer simple notification laws. If the kid wants an abortion after talking with her parents that really is the best solution
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vinnyraptor
Guest
just because your a doctor doesn't mean you know anything other than MEDICINE! and for your "grown up" pool this is a FISH site! lol not a political forum. i love the highly educated, they think they know everything, lol. but yet you could even answer one of my questions. are all industrialized democratic nations with universal healthcare socialists? doesn't Russia have abundant natural resources to be nearly self sustainable? Bush's tax cuts mostly benefited the richest 1% and the corporations, then it was a trickle down affect from there. so yes do to your profession you benefited greatly. you payed less income tax and capitial gains tax then you did under the Clintons, right? you assume that Obama will be weak why? because of his social programs.. i know why you dont like him, because he'll affect your bottom line, period. IMO you docs are way overpaid anyways, you dont "cure" anything, haven't in decades. you are mostly mindless drones for the pharm. corps and simply treat symptoms with thier dope. nearly half of the population is on something, wether it be for depression, allergies, ADD, high blood pressure, restless leg syndrome ( what a joke ) etc... the entire population is on something but it doesn't cure it, it just treats the symptom. And most of its side effects are far worse than the symptom of the illness in the first place. basically it's duck tape and glue so you can get your butt to work and pay your health insurance. but you dont care, or you were tricked into thinking the stuff there making actually is good for people. you vaccinate kids with so much poison that nearly 1 in 100 children have some sort of autism. how dare you, the hypocratic oath is a hypocracy! trusting the pharmecudical corps alone shows me you have poor judgement, believing that Reagan was a great man only affirms the fact. dont tell me how smart you are because you went to med. school, its irrelevant in a political debate. and how can you be smarter than Barrack Obama but not smarter then John McCain? he doesn't even know how to use a computer, he cant drive a car, and makes jokes, f'ing jokes about bombing people! he thinks the economy and the war are making progress, just say it, you dont care how poor people live, you dont care about innocent muslims getting bombed, you dont care if Tyesha from the projects has daycare for her son so she can go to school and try and be somebody. you care about your wallet, your cash for your vacations, and your people, thats it! and i bet you consider yourself a good person, possibly a Christian, lmao. what a joke YOU ARE!
Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/2637494
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
"we all pay taxes, not just you. and all other industrialized democratic nations have universal healthcare, are they socialist's ? the facts are Bush's tax cuts only benefited the rich ( which i assume is you) and were wasting billions in Iraq, that money alone could pay for healthcare. Ronald Reagan did not "defeat" communism, Russia has more natural resources than any other land mass in the world. oil, nat. gas, precious metals, ore, water, uranium, plutonium, etc... the people defeated communism, not some b movie actor from halfway across the globe.
he TAUGHT constitutional law at one of the biggest law schools in america! how dare you belittle his education and knowledge, thats like me saying i know more about being a POW because i did a weekend in jail when i was younger. "
I dare belittle his education. I dare because mine exceeds his. I dare because I teach young doctors emergency medicine. I am faculty at the local medical school. I have a better grasp of the intents of the Constitution than the "scholar" Sen. Obama. I've actually worked in the real world, where Obama has not.
BTW we all DO NOT pay taxes. About 33% of US citizens pay NO tax.
http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=15281
You might want to get your FACTS straight before you jump into the grown up pool.
OK so by your logic, if Obama were president in the 80's the USSR would have been defeated? I don't think so. Heck we'd still be talking about the missiles in Cuba. Heck, bring back JFK, at least he got it.
Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/2637494
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
"we all pay taxes, not just you. and all other industrialized democratic nations have universal healthcare, are they socialist's ? the facts are Bush's tax cuts only benefited the rich ( which i assume is you) and were wasting billions in Iraq, that money alone could pay for healthcare. Ronald Reagan did not "defeat" communism, Russia has more natural resources than any other land mass in the world. oil, nat. gas, precious metals, ore, water, uranium, plutonium, etc... the people defeated communism, not some b movie actor from halfway across the globe.
he TAUGHT constitutional law at one of the biggest law schools in america! how dare you belittle his education and knowledge, thats like me saying i know more about being a POW because i did a weekend in jail when i was younger. "
I dare belittle his education. I dare because mine exceeds his. I dare because I teach young doctors emergency medicine. I am faculty at the local medical school. I have a better grasp of the intents of the Constitution than the "scholar" Sen. Obama. I've actually worked in the real world, where Obama has not.
BTW we all DO NOT pay taxes. About 33% of US citizens pay NO tax.
http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=15281
You might want to get your FACTS straight before you jump into the grown up pool.
OK so by your logic, if Obama were president in the 80's the USSR would have been defeated? I don't think so. Heck we'd still be talking about the missiles in Cuba. Heck, bring back JFK, at least he got it.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/2640487
just because your a doctor doesn't mean you know anything other than MEDICINE! and for your "grown up" pool this is a FISH site! lol not a political forum. i love the highly educated, they think they know everything, lol. but yet you could even answer one of my questions. are all industrialized democratic nations with universal healthcare socialists? doesn't Russia have abundant natural resources to be nearly self sustainable? Bush's tax cuts mostly benefited the richest 1% and the corporations, then it was a trickle down affect from there. so yes do to your profession you benefited greatly. you payed less income tax and capitial gains tax then you did under the Clintons, right? you assume that Obama will be weak why? because of his social programs.. i know why you dont like him, because he'll affect your bottom line, period. IMO you docs are way overpaid anyways, you dont "cure" anything, haven't in decades. you are mostly mindless drones for the pharm. corps and simply treat symptoms with thier dope. nearly half of the population is on something, wether it be for depression, allergies, ADD, high blood pressure, restless leg syndrome ( what a joke ) etc... the entire population is on something but it doesn't cure it, it just treats the symptom. And most of its side effects are far worse than the symptom of the illness in the first place. basically it's duck tape and glue so you can get your butt to work and pay your health insurance. but you dont care, or you were tricked into thinking the stuff there making actually is good for people. you vaccinate kids with so much poison that nearly 1 in 100 children have some sort of autism. how dare you, the hypocratic oath is a hypocracy! trusting the pharmecudical corps alone shows me you have poor judgement, believing that Reagan was a great man only affirms the fact. dont tell me how smart you are because you went to med. school, its irrelevant in a political debate. and how can you be smarter than Barrack Obama but not smarter then John McCain? he doesn't even know how to use a computer, he cant drive a car, and makes jokes, f'ing jokes about bombing people! he thinks the economy and the war are making progress, just say it, you dont care how poor people live, you dont care about innocent muslims getting bombed, you dont care if Tyesha from the projects has daycare for her son so she can go to school and try and be somebody. you care about your wallet, your cash for your vacations, and your people, thats it! and i bet you consider yourself a good person, possibly a Christian, lmao. what a joke YOU ARE!
Ignorance on display...
And I think McCain is a moron too.
http:///forum/post/2640487
just because your a doctor doesn't mean you know anything other than MEDICINE! and for your "grown up" pool this is a FISH site! lol not a political forum. i love the highly educated, they think they know everything, lol. but yet you could even answer one of my questions. are all industrialized democratic nations with universal healthcare socialists? doesn't Russia have abundant natural resources to be nearly self sustainable? Bush's tax cuts mostly benefited the richest 1% and the corporations, then it was a trickle down affect from there. so yes do to your profession you benefited greatly. you payed less income tax and capitial gains tax then you did under the Clintons, right? you assume that Obama will be weak why? because of his social programs.. i know why you dont like him, because he'll affect your bottom line, period. IMO you docs are way overpaid anyways, you dont "cure" anything, haven't in decades. you are mostly mindless drones for the pharm. corps and simply treat symptoms with thier dope. nearly half of the population is on something, wether it be for depression, allergies, ADD, high blood pressure, restless leg syndrome ( what a joke ) etc... the entire population is on something but it doesn't cure it, it just treats the symptom. And most of its side effects are far worse than the symptom of the illness in the first place. basically it's duck tape and glue so you can get your butt to work and pay your health insurance. but you dont care, or you were tricked into thinking the stuff there making actually is good for people. you vaccinate kids with so much poison that nearly 1 in 100 children have some sort of autism. how dare you, the hypocratic oath is a hypocracy! trusting the pharmecudical corps alone shows me you have poor judgement, believing that Reagan was a great man only affirms the fact. dont tell me how smart you are because you went to med. school, its irrelevant in a political debate. and how can you be smarter than Barrack Obama but not smarter then John McCain? he doesn't even know how to use a computer, he cant drive a car, and makes jokes, f'ing jokes about bombing people! he thinks the economy and the war are making progress, just say it, you dont care how poor people live, you dont care about innocent muslims getting bombed, you dont care if Tyesha from the projects has daycare for her son so she can go to school and try and be somebody. you care about your wallet, your cash for your vacations, and your people, thats it! and i bet you consider yourself a good person, possibly a Christian, lmao. what a joke YOU ARE!
Ignorance on display...
And I think McCain is a moron too.
aquaknight
Active Member
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/2640487
just because your a doctor doesn't mean you know anything other than MEDICINE! and for your "grown up" pool this is a FISH site! lol not a political forum. i love the highly educated, they think they know everything, lol. but yet you could even answer one of my questions. are all industrialized democratic nations with universal healthcare socialists? doesn't Russia have abundant natural resources to be nearly self sustainable? Bush's tax cuts mostly benefited the richest 1% and the corporations, then it was a trickle down affect from there. so yes do to your profession you benefited greatly. you payed less income tax and capitial gains tax then you did under the Clintons, right? you assume that Obama will be weak why? because of his social programs.. i know why you dont like him, because he'll affect your bottom line, period. IMO you docs are way overpaid anyways, you dont "cure" anything, haven't in decades. you are mostly mindless drones for the pharm. corps and simply treat symptoms with thier dope. nearly half of the population is on something, wether it be for depression, allergies, ADD, high blood pressure, restless leg syndrome ( what a joke ) etc... the entire population is on something but it doesn't cure it, it just treats the symptom. And most of its side effects are far worse than the symptom of the illness in the first place. basically it's duck tape and glue so you can get your butt to work and pay your health insurance. but you dont care, or you were tricked into thinking the stuff there making actually is good for people. you vaccinate kids with so much poison that nearly 1 in 100 children have some sort of autism. how dare you, the hypocratic oath is a hypocracy! trusting the pharmecudical corps alone shows me you have poor judgement, believing that Reagan was a great man only affirms the fact. dont tell me how smart you are because you went to med. school, its irrelevant in a political debate. and how can you be smarter than Barrack Obama but not smarter then John McCain? he doesn't even know how to use a computer, he cant drive a car, and makes jokes, f'ing jokes about bombing people! he thinks the economy and the war are making progress, just say it, you dont care how poor people live, you dont care about innocent muslims getting bombed, you dont care if Tyesha from the projects has daycare for her son so she can go to school and try and be somebody. you care about your wallet, your cash for your vacations, and your people, thats it! and i bet you consider yourself a good person, possibly a Christian, lmao. what a joke YOU ARE!
Jesus... Somebody is afraid of needles........
http:///forum/post/2640487
just because your a doctor doesn't mean you know anything other than MEDICINE! and for your "grown up" pool this is a FISH site! lol not a political forum. i love the highly educated, they think they know everything, lol. but yet you could even answer one of my questions. are all industrialized democratic nations with universal healthcare socialists? doesn't Russia have abundant natural resources to be nearly self sustainable? Bush's tax cuts mostly benefited the richest 1% and the corporations, then it was a trickle down affect from there. so yes do to your profession you benefited greatly. you payed less income tax and capitial gains tax then you did under the Clintons, right? you assume that Obama will be weak why? because of his social programs.. i know why you dont like him, because he'll affect your bottom line, period. IMO you docs are way overpaid anyways, you dont "cure" anything, haven't in decades. you are mostly mindless drones for the pharm. corps and simply treat symptoms with thier dope. nearly half of the population is on something, wether it be for depression, allergies, ADD, high blood pressure, restless leg syndrome ( what a joke ) etc... the entire population is on something but it doesn't cure it, it just treats the symptom. And most of its side effects are far worse than the symptom of the illness in the first place. basically it's duck tape and glue so you can get your butt to work and pay your health insurance. but you dont care, or you were tricked into thinking the stuff there making actually is good for people. you vaccinate kids with so much poison that nearly 1 in 100 children have some sort of autism. how dare you, the hypocratic oath is a hypocracy! trusting the pharmecudical corps alone shows me you have poor judgement, believing that Reagan was a great man only affirms the fact. dont tell me how smart you are because you went to med. school, its irrelevant in a political debate. and how can you be smarter than Barrack Obama but not smarter then John McCain? he doesn't even know how to use a computer, he cant drive a car, and makes jokes, f'ing jokes about bombing people! he thinks the economy and the war are making progress, just say it, you dont care how poor people live, you dont care about innocent muslims getting bombed, you dont care if Tyesha from the projects has daycare for her son so she can go to school and try and be somebody. you care about your wallet, your cash for your vacations, and your people, thats it! and i bet you consider yourself a good person, possibly a Christian, lmao. what a joke YOU ARE!
Jesus... Somebody is afraid of needles........
V
vinnyraptor
Guest
was wondering if you thought my comments were ignorant? take a look at the autism rates, its diabolical if not downright evil, take a look at the ingredients of these vaccines and the cultures in which there born. things like MERCURY, sodium chloride, hydrochloric acid, and many more, are cultured in bovine blood, monkey brain, horse tissue and others. this "witches brew" is injected into infants under 30 lbs, over 30 times! and most of the vaccines are useless, less than a 40% uninfected rate during a pandemic for that specific outbreak. Useless and reckless but a GIANT moneymaker for the pharmecudical companys. the cost is 1 in 100 develops some sort of autism. i believ these vaccines also cause numerous other illnesses later in life, lupus, certain cancers, lukemia, to name a few. your doctor will argue that with every vaccination there is a risk, thats why parents MUST sign a consent form atleast here in Ohio. the facts are they dont work during an outbreak only 40% for most, a healthy immune system without the vaccine increases your chances by atleast 10% and they cause a myriad of longterm health problems as well as autism.
armywife1314
Member
so does eating fish and tuna especially when your pregnant. so tell me is it safer to let your children be at risk for all the things vaccinated for? isnt it more dangerous to let them be that vulnerable? yes with vaccines you inject a little of the disease itself to boost the immune system (if i remember correctly). if you want to argue vaccines do that then i hope you dont use a microwave you might get cancer, dont use cell phones you might get cancer too. theres a lot of mights and maybes and if there were hard evidence then it wouldnt be that way. the FDA would make them change it. and if that is really your arguement should you be mad at scientists not an ER doctor? and there are kids born with autism ( i know of a lot) especially since my mom works with special needs kids. ones that were diagnosed before vaccinations and ones whos mom didnt eat fish high in mercury.
stdreb27
Active Member
I'm disregarding the conspiracy theory and going with this portion of your statement.
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/2640487
i love the highly educated, they think they know everything, lol. but yet you could even answer one of my questions. are all industrialized democratic nations with universal healthcare socialists? doesn't Russia have abundant natural resources to be nearly self sustainable? Bush's tax cuts mostly benefited the richest 1% and the corporations, then it was a trickle down affect from there. so yes do to your profession you benefited greatly. you payed less income tax and capitial gains tax then you did under the Clintons, right? you assume that Obama will be weak why? because of his social programs.. i know why you dont like him, because he'll affect your bottom line, period. IMO you docs are way overpaid anyways, you dont "cure" anything, haven't in decades.
...trusting the pharmecudical corps alone shows me you have poor judgement, believing that Reagan was a great man only affirms the fact. dont tell me how smart you are because you went to med. school, its irrelevant in a political debate. and how can you be smarter than Barrack Obama but not smarter then John McCain? he doesn't even know how to use a computer, he cant drive a car, and makes jokes, f'ing jokes about bombing people! he thinks the economy and the war are making progress, just say it, you dont care how poor people live, you dont care about innocent muslims getting bombed, you dont care if Tyesha from the projects has daycare for her son so she can go to school and try and be somebody. you care about your wallet, your cash for your vacations, and your people, thats it! and i bet you consider yourself a good person, possibly a Christian, lmao. what a joke YOU ARE!
Wow, I can't even respond other than this is just the typical brainwashed filth that democrats say about republicans.
1. you insinuate that republicans are rich. (dems are usually richer)
2. you call the candidate stupid. (you might have a point with this one)
3. you insinuate that republicans are racists and religious radicals. (ignorant statment ignoring all of history)
4. Assume american is wrong and bad. (innocent muslims, while making no mention to innocent americans)
5. Repeat class envy.
6. And yes nationalised anything is a socialist concept. Ask the chinese how they like having their second baby?
7. Your statement is like saying I have 10 tangs in my 10 gallon tank with no problems.
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/2641419
was wondering if you thought my comments were ignorant? .
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/2640487
i love the highly educated, they think they know everything, lol. but yet you could even answer one of my questions. are all industrialized democratic nations with universal healthcare socialists? doesn't Russia have abundant natural resources to be nearly self sustainable? Bush's tax cuts mostly benefited the richest 1% and the corporations, then it was a trickle down affect from there. so yes do to your profession you benefited greatly. you payed less income tax and capitial gains tax then you did under the Clintons, right? you assume that Obama will be weak why? because of his social programs.. i know why you dont like him, because he'll affect your bottom line, period. IMO you docs are way overpaid anyways, you dont "cure" anything, haven't in decades.
...trusting the pharmecudical corps alone shows me you have poor judgement, believing that Reagan was a great man only affirms the fact. dont tell me how smart you are because you went to med. school, its irrelevant in a political debate. and how can you be smarter than Barrack Obama but not smarter then John McCain? he doesn't even know how to use a computer, he cant drive a car, and makes jokes, f'ing jokes about bombing people! he thinks the economy and the war are making progress, just say it, you dont care how poor people live, you dont care about innocent muslims getting bombed, you dont care if Tyesha from the projects has daycare for her son so she can go to school and try and be somebody. you care about your wallet, your cash for your vacations, and your people, thats it! and i bet you consider yourself a good person, possibly a Christian, lmao. what a joke YOU ARE!
Wow, I can't even respond other than this is just the typical brainwashed filth that democrats say about republicans.
1. you insinuate that republicans are rich. (dems are usually richer)
2. you call the candidate stupid. (you might have a point with this one)
3. you insinuate that republicans are racists and religious radicals. (ignorant statment ignoring all of history)
4. Assume american is wrong and bad. (innocent muslims, while making no mention to innocent americans)
5. Repeat class envy.
6. And yes nationalised anything is a socialist concept. Ask the chinese how they like having their second baby?
7. Your statement is like saying I have 10 tangs in my 10 gallon tank with no problems.
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/2641419
was wondering if you thought my comments were ignorant? .
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by armywife1314
http:///forum/post/2641454
so does eating fish and tuna especially when your pregnant. so tell me is it safer to let your children be at risk for all the things vaccinated for? isnt it more dangerous to let them be that vulnerable? yes with vaccines you inject a little of the disease itself to boost the immune system (if i remember correctly). if you want to argue vaccines do that then i hope you dont use a microwave you might get cancer, dont use cell phones you might get cancer too. theres a lot of mights and maybes and if there were hard evidence then it wouldnt be that way. the FDA would make them change it. and if that is really your arguement should you be mad at scientists not an ER doctor? and there are kids born with autism ( i know of a lot) especially since my mom works with special needs kids. ones that were diagnosed before vaccinations and ones whos mom didnt eat fish high in mercury.
Lets not forget that congress just passed a law requiring pc bulbs (high in heavy metals like mercury) and a phase out of incandescent bulbs which are not an environmental hazard. These PC bulbs practically require a hazmat team if they break. Another tree hugger initiative that is going to go wrong.
http:///forum/post/2641454
so does eating fish and tuna especially when your pregnant. so tell me is it safer to let your children be at risk for all the things vaccinated for? isnt it more dangerous to let them be that vulnerable? yes with vaccines you inject a little of the disease itself to boost the immune system (if i remember correctly). if you want to argue vaccines do that then i hope you dont use a microwave you might get cancer, dont use cell phones you might get cancer too. theres a lot of mights and maybes and if there were hard evidence then it wouldnt be that way. the FDA would make them change it. and if that is really your arguement should you be mad at scientists not an ER doctor? and there are kids born with autism ( i know of a lot) especially since my mom works with special needs kids. ones that were diagnosed before vaccinations and ones whos mom didnt eat fish high in mercury.
Lets not forget that congress just passed a law requiring pc bulbs (high in heavy metals like mercury) and a phase out of incandescent bulbs which are not an environmental hazard. These PC bulbs practically require a hazmat team if they break. Another tree hugger initiative that is going to go wrong.
armywife1314
Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2641466
Lets not forget that congress just passed a law requiring pc bulbs (high in heavy metals like mercury) and a phase out of incandescent bulbs which are not an environmental hazard. These PC bulbs practically require a hazmat team if they break. Another tree hugger initiative that is going to go wrong.
+1
http:///forum/post/2641466
Lets not forget that congress just passed a law requiring pc bulbs (high in heavy metals like mercury) and a phase out of incandescent bulbs which are not an environmental hazard. These PC bulbs practically require a hazmat team if they break. Another tree hugger initiative that is going to go wrong.
+1
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2641466
Lets not forget that congress just passed a law requiring pc bulbs (high in heavy metals like mercury) and a phase out of incandescent bulbs which are not an environmental hazard. These PC bulbs practically require a hazmat team if they break. Another tree hugger initiative that is going to go wrong.
PC lamps have a lot less mercury than standard fluorescent tubes. If you broke a few dozen all at once it might be an issue.
http:///forum/post/2641466
Lets not forget that congress just passed a law requiring pc bulbs (high in heavy metals like mercury) and a phase out of incandescent bulbs which are not an environmental hazard. These PC bulbs practically require a hazmat team if they break. Another tree hugger initiative that is going to go wrong.
PC lamps have a lot less mercury than standard fluorescent tubes. If you broke a few dozen all at once it might be an issue.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2641577
PC lamps have a lot less mercury than standard fluorescent tubes. If you broke a few dozen all at once it might be an issue.
Even so, if you break one, the poison center says put on gloves open all the doors and windows in your house then take the broken shards put them in a sealed bag and then let your house air out.
http:///forum/post/2641577
PC lamps have a lot less mercury than standard fluorescent tubes. If you broke a few dozen all at once it might be an issue.
Even so, if you break one, the poison center says put on gloves open all the doors and windows in your house then take the broken shards put them in a sealed bag and then let your house air out.
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2641637
Even so, if you break one, the poison center says put on gloves open all the doors and windows in your house then take the broken shards put them in a sealed bag and then let your house air out.
Yeah and a fried hamburger will give you cancer. Don't know about you but I've broken a lot of fluorescent lamps in my life. I probably have more mercury in the silver fillings in my teeth than I ever inhaled from broken lamps.
http:///forum/post/2641637
Even so, if you break one, the poison center says put on gloves open all the doors and windows in your house then take the broken shards put them in a sealed bag and then let your house air out.
Yeah and a fried hamburger will give you cancer. Don't know about you but I've broken a lot of fluorescent lamps in my life. I probably have more mercury in the silver fillings in my teeth than I ever inhaled from broken lamps.
V
vinnyraptor
Guest
yes it is SAFER to have a totally unvaccinated child that has a healthy immune system than vaccinated child with a weakened one. especially a child that was given the MMR vaccine with the mercury based preservative Thimerosol ( unsure of spelling) independent studies prove that most vaccines simply dont work, and are filled with far more terrible chemicals than the dead strain of that disease or illness. Vaccines arent just inert strains of that disease to boost your immune system against it. they are filled with chemicals and toxins that can severely damage a newborn or toddler. up to 31 shots by preschool, look it up for yourself and see what they are putting in our children. my son has had zero vaccinations, he was
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fed, and has never been sick, other than the sniffles, is in the 95 percentile in hieght and 90% in wieght. everyone in our house can be sick with the flu, and he doesnt get it, he may get a runny nose for a day but thats it. his immune system is strong, way stronger than mine. And TRUST ME eating tuna while pregnant CANT hurt your baby unless your eating it 3 times a day every day. on the other hand the amount of mercury they will inject in most babies at age two would require that baby to be over 500 lbs to safely withstand the amount of poison without permanent damage. look it up for yourself.... the FDA and the Pharms are in cahoots darlin, how many drugs were FDA approved before being recalled because they were KILLING PEOPLE! they defended Thimerosol before finally stopping its usage. why because it kept the vaccine viable and gave it a longer shelf life. oh well if it caused autism at the rate of one in every 100. one question for you, ask your mom how many of the kids she works with were vaccinated, i bet its 100%
Originally Posted by armywife1314
http:///forum/post/2641454
so does eating fish and tuna especially when your pregnant. so tell me is it safer to let your children be at risk for all the things vaccinated for? isnt it more dangerous to let them be that vulnerable? yes with vaccines you inject a little of the disease itself to boost the immune system (if i remember correctly). if you want to argue vaccines do that then i hope you dont use a microwave you might get cancer, dont use cell phones you might get cancer too. theres a lot of mights and maybes and if there were hard evidence then it wouldnt be that way. the FDA would make them change it. and if that is really your arguement should you be mad at scientists not an ER doctor? and there are kids born with autism ( i know of a lot) especially since my mom works with special needs kids. ones that were diagnosed before vaccinations and ones whos mom didnt eat fish high in mercury.
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fed, and has never been sick, other than the sniffles, is in the 95 percentile in hieght and 90% in wieght. everyone in our house can be sick with the flu, and he doesnt get it, he may get a runny nose for a day but thats it. his immune system is strong, way stronger than mine. And TRUST ME eating tuna while pregnant CANT hurt your baby unless your eating it 3 times a day every day. on the other hand the amount of mercury they will inject in most babies at age two would require that baby to be over 500 lbs to safely withstand the amount of poison without permanent damage. look it up for yourself.... the FDA and the Pharms are in cahoots darlin, how many drugs were FDA approved before being recalled because they were KILLING PEOPLE! they defended Thimerosol before finally stopping its usage. why because it kept the vaccine viable and gave it a longer shelf life. oh well if it caused autism at the rate of one in every 100. one question for you, ask your mom how many of the kids she works with were vaccinated, i bet its 100%
Originally Posted by armywife1314
http:///forum/post/2641454
so does eating fish and tuna especially when your pregnant. so tell me is it safer to let your children be at risk for all the things vaccinated for? isnt it more dangerous to let them be that vulnerable? yes with vaccines you inject a little of the disease itself to boost the immune system (if i remember correctly). if you want to argue vaccines do that then i hope you dont use a microwave you might get cancer, dont use cell phones you might get cancer too. theres a lot of mights and maybes and if there were hard evidence then it wouldnt be that way. the FDA would make them change it. and if that is really your arguement should you be mad at scientists not an ER doctor? and there are kids born with autism ( i know of a lot) especially since my mom works with special needs kids. ones that were diagnosed before vaccinations and ones whos mom didnt eat fish high in mercury.