Obama wins!

scubadoo

scubadoo

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Originally Posted by gonefishcrazy
http:///forum/post/2649843
That was not a political speech. Its something he been doing before this election.
According to his ex-church...I agree...politics was fair game from the pulpit. Just look at the greatest hits of Pfleger and the greatest hits of his favorite uncle Wright. Religion appeared to be lost on many a SUnday.
Anyone that can sit through those hate rallies would certainly consider this content tame and non-political.
Just curious...does NObama have any close associations with folks that actually like America and/or "'whitey"?
 
scubadoo

scubadoo

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2642708
Why do you keep calling me son? I probably have 10 years on you kiddo. What's with your fixation on the Weatherman Underground? You Republican's haven't found some other dissident radical group to associate to Obama so you can use that in the trash talk dirty politics you so like to use? Is that the only way you think you can win the election? Trust me. There's not one politician out there that doesn't have some kind of dirty laundry, or dirty little secret tucked away in the closet.
Think you need to use more nitrogen during your dives. Think the lack of oxygen is affecting your sense or reality.
SOn, I have read your numerous posts and have come to the conclusion you simply do not understand history and/or simply ignore facts.
The Weatherbomber and his wife is only ONE close association for NObama..there are others. THe list is quite long....and grows daily. It's very hard to keep up with as he has more skeletons in his closet than a 1,000 year old grave yard.
I simply knew very little about NObama..and have taken some time to research this individual.
CHANGE HIDING IN THE CLOSET..NObama 2008
 
scubadoo

scubadoo

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2643779
so obama goes and said some stupid stuff like.
``These are the folks who are responsible for infecting the economy and helping to create a home-foreclosure crisis -- 2 million people may end up losing their homes,'' Obama said of Countrywide at a March 31 campaign appearance in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
Then goes and selects a guy to help him pick his veep who has close ties to countrywide. And Soros.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...1gw&refer=home
You also need to take a look at his top campaign finance guru. She has a direct link to the subprime mort. game many of his supporters come here and complain about. I doubt any will take the time to research the matter.
It has already been covered in another thread and exposed. Yet, they reamin silent on the matter claming NObama has the answers.

Yet another example of how NObama will surround himself with "winners" and problem solvers if elected.

CHANGE LEFT IN YOUR WALLET AFTER DOLLARS EXTRACTED
 
scubadoo

scubadoo

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From the Huffington Post FAR LEFT website...a liberal source...not from the right...NOBama top finance guru..
Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama says he’ll crack down on fraudulent sub-prime lenders. If he really means it he can start by firing his campaign finance chair, Penny Pritzker. Before taking over Obama’s campaign finances, she headed up the borderline shady and failed Superior Bank. It collapsed in 2002. The bank’s sordid story and its abominable role in fueling the sub-prime crisis are well known and documented. It engaged in deceptive and faulty lending, questionable accounting practices, and charged hidden fees. It did it with the sleepy-eyed see-no-evil oversight of federal. It made thousands of dubious loans to mostly poor, strapped homeowners. A disproportionate number of them were minority.
THE CHANGE THAT IS A COMIN NOBAMA 2008
 
1journeyman

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Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/2649350
there is nothing "funny" about dropping bombs on innocent people!
There's also nothing funny about spewing anti-American propaganda on a forum. I'm still waiting for a link that shows our troops have killed 1.5 million civilians...
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/2649350
not in Japan, not in Iraq, or anywhere else. we call them savages yet we are the only country to ever detonate that type of bomb in a live situation in the history of mankind. we slaughtered more people in one day then in most wars combined.
Good God you are wrong... do you know how many people we actually killed in Hiroshima? do you know the actual death tolls in Nagasaki? Do you actually realize how many people died in WW2??? The 3 day bombing campaign in Dresden alone killed more citizens than either atomic bomb we dropped (and we didn't drop them on the same day, btw). We killed, roughly, 200,000 citizens with our two atomic bombs. During the German Russian battle for Stalingrad the death toll has been estimated at over 1 million. That's for a single campaign on the eastern front of the Second World War.
You seriously need to get some better sources. You are posting information that is completely false and undermines any sort of credibility you might have. Over 40 million people died in WW2 alone, yet somehow Japan's casualties from 2 atomic strikes were more than in most wars combined??? Good God man, research before you post.
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/2649350
... Americans deny the skeletons in thier own closet! we arent ALWAYS the good guys... and when a good guy comes along you mock him or give him false titles like "socialist", "eliteist", "terrorist" lol!
So, just to clarify, you can be a good guy and associate with terrorists, yet America is the bad guy for doing what every nation was doing 200 years ago?
Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/2649350
you cant even recognise goodness when its right in your face, the whole world likes the guy, both our friends and our enemies. ...
You call America bad, equate us with terrorists, claim our soliders have murdered over a million people, and then have the audacity to say we don't recognize "goodness'?
Don't forget, the "whole" world love Arafat...
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by gonefishcrazy
http:///forum/post/2649843
That was not a political speech. Its something he been doing before this election. Reaching out to the community. As a child who grew up without a father he was reaching out for men to take on that roll of fatherhood. If he can convince one man to take care of his child then that takes a burden off the welfare system.He talked about rewarding fathers who take care of their kids and make it more tough for those who did not.
He also talked about kids, did you miss that. Wanting kids to strive for more. Listen to the whole speech please.

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Any public appearance is a vote for me because, situation. Seriously, hence it was a political speech.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
http:///forum/post/2649956
From the Huffington Post FAR LEFT website...a liberal source...not from the right...NOBama top finance guru..
Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama says he’ll crack down on fraudulent sub-prime lenders. If he really means it he can start by firing his campaign finance chair, Penny Pritzker. Before taking over Obama’s campaign finances, she headed up the borderline shady and failed Superior Bank. It collapsed in 2002. The bank’s sordid story and its abominable role in fueling the sub-prime crisis are well known and documented. It engaged in deceptive and faulty lending, questionable accounting practices, and charged hidden fees. It did it with the sleepy-eyed see-no-evil oversight of federal. It made thousands of dubious loans to mostly poor, strapped homeowners. A disproportionate number of them were minority.
THE CHANGE THAT IS A COMIN NOBAMA 2008

Here's more on Mr Clean's fundraiser
""Obama's campaign notes that Pritzker stepped down as chairwoman of the bank's board in 1994, seven years before it failed. She then went on the board of the bank's holding company.
But a letter obtained by the Chicago Sun-Times shows that until the end, Pritzker appeared to be taking a leadership role in trying to revive the bank with an expanded push into subprime loans.
Pritzker wrote in May 2001 that her family was recapitalizing the bank, and she pledged to "once again restore Superior's leadership position in subprime lending." The bank shut down in July 2001.
Pritzker's attorney Kevin Poorman and Obama's campaign spokesman emphasized that not all "subprime lending" is the "predatory" kind that Obama and White House rival Hillary Clinton rail against. The kind of subprime lending Superior was doing in 2001 was not predatory, Poorman said.""
So I guess you are only a predatory subprime lendor if you aren't connected with the Obama campaign

But wait, it gets better
""Superior's failure was complex," she wrote. "In short, the bank failed in 2001 because regulators concluded that the valuation of certain assets in Superior's financial statements, which had been audited by Ernst & Young for many years and previously approved by regulators, was overstated and as a result the bank was not capitalized sufficiently.
"My family voluntarily agreed to pay the FDIC $460 M[illion] to help defray costs incurred by the government and other losses in connection with the bank's closure. ... I am proud of how my family responded to this situation.""
""The Pritzker family bought the former Lyons Savings and Loan with partner Alan Dworman in 1988. Lyons had failed, and federal regulators asked the Pritzkers to take it over. Crain's Chicago Business reported that the FDIC gave the Pritzkers "cash, tax incentives and promissory notes" worth $645 million to take Lyons.""
So her family paid the government 460 million after they recieved 645 million for taking it over. A cool 185 million dollar profit in addition to whatever they looted while in control of the bank.
Obama 08. Change and Hope As in "I hope there will be some change left in my savings account when he and his friends are done with it.
 
gonefishcrazy

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Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
http:///forum/post/2649930
No thanks...I prefer to support a candidate that actually has folks that like America as his associates. I'd also prefer groups like Hamas not have a friend in the oval office.
I agree, Nobama always amazes me with the number of haters, terrorists, racist, etc that support him. THe list grows weekly.

You are talking about associates who thinks ---- is cool. Or associates who think God sent Hitler. What about KEATING FIVE .
Give me a break. Are you saying Im a terrorist also. It also amaze me with all the haters and racist that don't support him.
If we had to judge people based on who they know, Nobody would be fit to be president.
Its okay you don't like his policies or views everything else is false accusations. Im not voting for mccain, therefore I don't have to waste my time and energy spewing hateful things and pantering about why I don't like him.
I only engage in blogs that talks about my candidate. If there was a thread on here praising McCain I would not even look at the thread.
The anti Obama people on here, we know you are not going to vote for him, good for you.
It is so old now.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Might as well just pile on here
More Obama hypocrocy
""Maytag workers whose jobs were shipped to Mexico serve as consistent characters in Barack Obama's stump speech. He employs their stories in railing against corporations that use trade pacts to replace well-paid union workers with low-cost foreign ones.
It is a ready applause line for the Illinois presidential hopeful, one that he has been reciting almost verbatim since he was a candidate for U.S. Senate in 2004, when appliance giant Maytag was in the process of shutting a refrigerator plant here, putting 1,600 people out of work.""
""Obama's rhetoric on Maytag has been unswerving and underscored by the closure of other U.S. appliance plants by Whirlpool Corp., which bought Maytag in 2006.
In his campaign, Obama has not shied from condemning rivals for straying from their own populist images.
Locked in an increasingly personal war of words with Clinton, Obama has attacked her for long-ago service on the board of Wal-Mart, which has frosty relations with organized labor. Before John Edwards dropped out of the race this week, Obama hit him for financial ties to a hedge fund with investments in Whirlpool. The Obama critique stressed Whirlpool's role in closing U.S. factories, including Maytag's longtime headquarters in Newton, Iowa.
Crown family members are major Democratic Party donors. Some have given to Clinton's campaigns for the U.S. Senate in New York. But in the presidential run, their money is behind Obama, campaign records show. The Crowns and employees of their family-run holding company have given at least $195,000 to Obama's U.S. Senate and presidential campaigns.""
Amazing
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by gonefishcrazy
http:///forum/post/2650248
You are talking about associates who thinks ---- is cool. Or associates who think God sent Hitler. What about KEATING FIVE .
Give me a break. Are you saying Im a terrorist also. It also amaze me with all the haters and racist that don't support him.
If we had to judge people based on who they know, Nobody would be fit to be president.
Its okay you don't like his policies or views everything else is false accusations. Im not voting for mccain, therefore I don't have to waste my time and energy spewing hateful things and pantering about why I don't like him.
I only engage in blogs that talks about my candidate. If there was a thread on here praising McCain I would not even look at the thread.
The anti Obama people on here, we know you are not going to vote for him, good for you.
It is so old now.

What is really old is being called a racist or hater for not supporting an unqualified extremist for president.
 
darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2650281
What is really old is being called a racist or hater for not supporting an unqualified extremist for president.
What is even older is the only thing remotely related to "corruption" anyone ever brings up is the Keating five....how many times do we have to go over that...BOTTOMLINE IS HE WAS CLEARED!.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by gonefishcrazy
http:///forum/post/2650248
I only engage in blogs that talks about my candidate. If there was a thread on here praising McCain I would not even look at the thread.

And we have been called close minded or uninformed.
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2650427
What is even older is the only thing remotely related to "corruption" anyone ever brings up is the Keating five....how many times do we have to go over that...BOTTOMLINE IS HE WAS CLEARED!.
Either way, if all you can dredge up about mccain is the keating 5. Then that isn't that big of deal vs a guy running for office who has close ties with terrorists, and a pastor who thinks the us military are terrorists.
 
gonefishcrazy

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2650281
What is really old is being called a racist or hater for not supporting an unqualified extremist for president.
If you look, I was quoting Scuba about racist/hater comment.
I agree that everyone is entitled to vote for whom they want for what ever the reason. Thats their right.
I got it 3-4 months ago how you guys feel. Im sure you also know 3-4 months ago who I was voting for.
Neither one of us is going to be changing our minds.
Maybe you guys can start a thread " REASONS I AM VOTING FOR MCCAIN" and tell all your reasons there.
 
1journeyman

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Originally Posted by gonefishcrazy
http:///forum/post/2650698
If you look, I was quoting Scuba about racist/hater comment.
I agree that everyone is entitled to vote for whom they want for what ever the reason. Thats their right.
I got it 3-4 months ago how you guys feel. Im sure you also know 3-4 months ago who I was voting for.
Neither one of us is going to bee changing our minds.
Maybe you guys can start a thread " REASONS I AM VOTING FOR MCCAIN" and tell all your reasons there.

I for one don't have much good to say about McCain, except that he is not Obama. I've said it before; I'm not voting for McCain, I'm voting against Obama.
Fishcrazy, we've repeatedly tried to have honest discussions about Obamas ideas here. We never can get an Obama supporter to discuss the issues. Heck, one poster even refuses to accept that Obama's health plan will effect every American, even after we quoted Obama's own webpage saying it would.
If you are willing to discuss issues by all means let's do it.
 
reefraff

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#1 reason I am voting for McCain.
He isn't Obama or Hillary

#2 reason I am voting for McCain
Practical military experience. He had enough courage and guts to to take the very risky position of criticizing Rumsfeld early on, came up with what is known as the surge and stuck to his guns. He was proven right.
#3 Reason I am voting for McCain
Proven track record of opposing frivilous government spending, the most serious problem facing our country today.
#4 Reason I am voting for McCain
Has a record of working with the other side, usually resulting in bills I oppose but at least he is able to work across the isle
But seeing how this is an Obama thread
#1 reason I am opposing Obama
Lack of experience.
#2 reason I am opposing Obama
Political positions of
A) Favored an all out ban on hanguns and simi automatics
B) Opposed law that would make it a crime for a person to take a minor child across state lines to avoid parental involvement laws for abortions.
C) Favors providing driver's licenses to illegal alliens
D) Tax policy
E) Energy policy
F) Foreign policy
Just A, B and C are enough I could never vote for him.
G) Questionable judgment
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by gonefishcrazy
http:///forum/post/2650698
Maybe you guys can start a thread " REASONS I AM VOTING FOR MCCAIN" and tell all your reasons there.

He won't raise my taxes, he won't leave a job unfinished, he won't talk to contries that violate basic human rights, he won't talk with terrorists, he will back Isreal's right to existance.He won't pander to the U.N. at the cost of U.S. interests. He won't weaken our military effectiveness, and last but not least, he is not Barrack Obama.
 
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look i really dont care what you or others think. and what exactly do you want links to? Slavery? Hiroshima? we all know that happened, lol. this was supposed to be about Barrack Obama, i defended him from those accusing him of being a socialist, eliteist, marxist, muslim, anti american, etc... the death toll can easily be found just by googling Iraqi death toll, i posted dozens of links on the link between autism and vaccines. what i said about the link between the cia and Bin laden is 100% true, but your not going to find it on a mainstream media site. i found this out my watching documentaries and conspiracy theory type videos. its pretty common knowledge around the globe that the cia funded Bin ladens fight against the Russians and armed him, that is no conspiracy. it is also common knowledge that the U.S. armed Saddam Hussien in his war versus Iran. the tanks we blew up in desert storm were old U.S. tanks. ask specific questions and i'll do my best to "prove" what im saying is true. you can classify me anyway you want, lol. Oh just read back, were you refering to the "false flag op's"?
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2649558
I am open minded for the most part. Crimzy who used to take part in these debates showed me a lot of things in the past that changed or at least moved my views a bit. All I am asking for is a link...or some form of credibility on your end. That is all...you repeatedly say look it up, we have ran searches and found nothing, obviously we are not as savy as you when it comes to researching certain things. So help us out if what you say is TRUE. Cause until you do, I classify you in the same category as those people that think our government caused 9/11....
 
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