Old Tank Syndrome

scopus tang

Active Member
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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///forum/thread/380319/old-tank-syndrome/40#post_3310596
My suggestion is that everyone that has a DSB trade a pound of sand with each other every year. We used to organize that here but I haven't seen a call for a sand swap in a while. Now might be a good time before it gets too cold up north.
Excellent suggestion Bang, I'll see if I can get something going on that.
 
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Originally Posted by BTLDreef http:///forum/thread/380319/old-tank-syndrome/40#post_3310597
I swap sand between some of my tanks every once in a while, is that just as good?
 
No doubt it was initially, and certainly it is better than nothing, but over time biodiversity between your tanks will become less and less, and eventually the swap will be introducing no new biodiversity into your system - just my $.02 worth.
 
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Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/thread/380319/old-tank-syndrome/40#post_3310599

 
I contacted Florida Joe, my sand and mud mixture in my little refugium will work for seeding. I can order more Fiji mud booster. There isn’t anyone I can swap live sand with, the tanks at the LFS around here look toxic. I am going to find a home for my sand sifting goby and (SNIFF) Hippo Tang He is getting too big. I’m going to redo the tank, I have to remove it all to get to the tang anyway. First I will put down some egg crate and reset my rock, then add the sand mixture with more booster…when that settles put my fish back in and remaining corals.
 
I’m debating on getting a new wet/dry Pro rapid filter…Its sort of a wet/dry with a canister and skimmer. I plan to run my other skimmer too.
 
Everything is on hold until the 1[sup]st[/sup]..that’s just a week away..I will continue with my daily water change till everything is up and going again like it should be.
 
I have a new weird problem…I have several places where I have put GSP coral. Actually 5 different spots and it’s growing well…Then yesterday I noticed a patch of it that never even opened, all the other areas are open and happy except that one rock. What makes GSP close up. I know critters crawling or fish brushing it can do it, but it usually comes right back out, any ideas? It’s near the top of the tank but another patch is just as close to the top on the other side.
 
 
Sounds like you're off to a good start - planning is always a very important part of the battle. Personally I wouldn't worry about the GSP, that stuff is extremely tough and will most likely reopen sometime in the future (I've had it stay closed for several weeks, then reopen looking healthy and happy). When you reset your tank, you may want to consider restricting the GSP to an island in the tank somewhere, so it cannot overgrow and smother other corals.
 
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Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/380319/old-tank-syndrome/40#post_3310669

 
 
LOL..I will do that and give it a good sniff...but I'm pretty sure my sand is as clean as a hounds tooth. I have allot of water movement, and the goby has kept it moved around plenty so nothing stagnant could be there.
 
When I re-do the sand and rock.. I'm also going to put in an order for a Reef Tune up from Indo Pacific Seafarms..oh and some little mini stars, that should get everything kicking again.
 

 
I have to be thankful, I may have been battling nitrates but I didn't have a tank crash. If I had not kept up on maintenance and water tests it might have been different outcome.
 
Well Said!
 

flower

Well-Known Member

 
 
Scopus, You said to consider restricting the GSP to an island in the tank somewhere, so it cannot overgrow and smother other corals., there is always a method to my madness...This stuff peels off so easy, I have a LFS that gives me credit for any coral frags or large fish I bring in that outgrows my tank. That's why I have it on several rocks, I've had it for years...

I agree it's one hardy coral but I was pondering WHY in the same tank, under the same conditions it is open in 4 different places on 4 different rocks and one bunch on a 5[sup]th[/sup] rock decided to close up. I found it odd


I got some free Joes juice for a green brittle star that decided my shrimp were yummy..So the guy is pretty fair in trade. Two other stores will gladly take my stuff off my hands for nothing…
 

btldreef

Moderator
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scopus Tang http:///forum/thread/380319/old-tank-syndrome/60#post_3310675
 
 
No doubt it was initially, and certainly it is better than nothing, but over time biodiversity between your tanks will become less and less, and eventually the swap will be introducing no new biodiversity into your system - just my $.02 worth.
 
 
 
I have over 15 tanks, does that make a difference? I'm just curious as to whether I should be looking to seed with friend's sand, or if I have enough tanks that it doesn't really matter.
 
 

florida joe

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Randy my old partner in crime, you know how things get in the way will give you an update on our refug soon but lets say the vodka put a big time hurt on our caulerpa
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by florida joe http:///forum/thread/380319/old-tank-syndrome/60#post_3310739
FYI the egg smell will be sulfur gas not a good thing to be releasing in to your tank

 
There is no egg smell, my goby is very good at making sure my sand is in new piles every night and day, Just to keep him busy I move the sand back into place, he digs it up to the bottom of the glass.
 
 

bang guy

Moderator
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/380319/old-tank-syndrome/60#post_3310858

 
There is no egg smell, my goby is very good at making sure my sand is in new piles every night and day, Just to keep him busy I move the sand back into place, he digs it up to the bottom of the glass.
 
That completely explains why you have a Nitrate problem. Maybe it was mentioned previously, I don't remember, but a DSB cannot remove Nitrate effectively with sandsifters.
 
 

flower

Well-Known Member
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Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/380319/old-tank-syndrome/60#post_3310870

 
 
just sayin..................

 
 

Are you saying I should ...after resetting the tank (sea farm critters and reseeded sand) and getting rid of the sand sifter that I should also get the Aquriapure denitrator anyway?

That filter gizmo doses vodka "safely' and I was considering it originally...I thought we had decided on a different direction. So please clarify, because whatever my plan it will all be a done deal next Monday when I put it into action.

So I suppose my question is:
Do I purchase a new wet/dry canister Rapid Pro filter or a Aquariapure Denitrator?
 
 

posiden

Active Member
Maybe I missed it, but no one has mentioned placing a remote deep sand bed in the system? Spanko touched on the idea, I think?
 
If a remote sand bed was put in, it would re-seed the sand bed in the DT. It could also be easily taken off line if need be. You should be able to keep all your critters then too.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Quote:
Originally Posted by Posiden http:///forum/thread/380319/old-tank-syndrome/60#post_3311374
Maybe I missed it, but no one has mentioned placing a remote deep sand bed in the system? Spanko touched on the idea, I think?
 
If a remote sand bed was put in, it would re-seed the sand bed in the DT. It could also be easily taken off line if need be. You should be able to keep all your critters then too.
Can you explain what a remote sand bed is???
 
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