Parcells Retires...

turningtim

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Come on you guys you can't be serious. First of all nobody can even guess at what Garrett is going to do either good or bad b/c he's never even smelled a position such as O cord for any team let alone Dallas.
Head coach please! As far as Jerry goes he should be the head coach b/c thats who's running the whole show now.
And how are you going to sell any HC on coming to Dallas and putting up with what comes with it and say "well you'll be here for a year or two to train my boy here on how to be a HC and then you'll be out of a job"
Classic! I would have to agree with what most are saying that Dallas just isn't the job it used to be.
As far as Tuna goes I heard Irvin on the Radio the other day say that anybody who thinks that Parcells was in full control of the Dallas Cowboys is nuts. Its Jerry's team and he is always is in control of HIS team.
Get used to seeing tail feathers.........
 
scubadoo

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Originally Posted by ruaround
isnt that why Jimmy left... so youre saying that Campo and Gailey werent puppets??? why is Jerry down on the field during key situations when all other owners and/or GMs up in their luxury boxes??? Jerry is the current GM is he not???
I thought you learned your lesson.
 
emmitt2

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Originally Posted by ruaround
some football knowledge... he was an Ivy League QB that went 0 - 10... he had only one game in the NFL that is close to remarkable...
answer to #1... how do you personally know that Parcells had "complete control"... i would say that his draftees were discussed and approved by the GM...
answer to #2... familiar with Parcells coaching style and his system/schemes...
Amazing, what luck for Bill that his meddling owner/gm forced him to sign so many of his favorite ex players!
Since when was being an NFL player much less a good NFL player a prerequisite to being a good coach? The fact that teams wanted him as a backup qb on their team long after he was even remotely a serviceable backup tells me he has coaching skills.
Just for the record Garrett had a better and longer NFL career(if they even played at all) than coaches such as Sean Payton,Brian Billick, Marvin Lewis, Romeo Crennel,Mike Shanahan, Bill Belichick, Eric Mangini, John Fox, Lovis Smith,Bill Parcells, Andy Reid, Mike Holmgren, Jon Gruden and Joe gibbs just to name a few
 
scubadoo

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I'm not certain anyone can state with any certainty who pulls the strings. You can look for signs. Parcells was rumored by many insiders he would be back. This was before Jones announced Me-O would defintely be back..assume as you wish.
He hired a reported assistant coach before a head coach. You would think the head coach would want to make that call as to who his assistants will be.....assume as you wish.
Dallas has asked permission to talk to Turner, Gibbs and Wade Phillips. Possibly Dan Reeves could surface as well. My money is on another veteran coach...fired in the past. This will be jones first choice....if he can get one to take the bait.
JMO
 
scubadoo

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Originally Posted by TurningTim
Come on you guys you can't be serious. First of all nobody can even guess at what Garrett is going to do either good or bad b/c he's never even smelled a position such as O cord for any team let alone Dallas.
Head coach please! As far as Jerry goes he should be the head coach b/c thats who's running the whole show now.
And how are you going to sell any HC on coming to Dallas and putting up with what comes with it and say "well you'll be here for a year or two to train my boy here on how to be a HC and then you'll be out of a job"
Classic! I would have to agree with what most are saying that Dallas just isn't the job it used to be.
As far as Tuna goes I heard Irvin on the Radio the other day say that anybody who thinks that Parcells was in full control of the Dallas Cowboys is nuts. Its Jerry's team and he is always is in control of HIS team.
Get used to seeing tail feathers.........

I'd be surprised if Garrett is the head coach. I believe he has been the QB coach at Miami the past two years? I've not verified this. . Over the past couple years...has ayone played really well at that postion in Miami? I guess he's not had much to work with...but that position has produced very little over the past two years in Miami.
 
scubadoo

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Originally Posted by ruaround
heres proof!!! Jerry Jones just hired Jason Garrett and the O-coordinater!!! i though it was typically the head coaches job to pick the coordinater... now they are talking to the likes of Norv Turner and Wade Phillips to "groom" Garrett into the head coaching job while acting as the head coach... this is a joke!!!
Jerry Jones = Puppet Master!!!
Opps...I said the same thing.
 
emmitt2

emmitt2

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Originally Posted by ruaround
some football knowledge... he was an Ivy League QB that went 0 - 10... he had only one game in the NFL that is close to remarkable...
answer to #1... how do you personally know that Parcells had "complete control"... i would say that his draftees were discussed and approved by the GM...
answer to #2... familiar with Parcells coaching style and his system/schemes...
If Jerry is pulling all the strings and making all the personnel decisions then i think you all have a hard time arguing he isnt a good gm. We have plenty of talent and good players. we just get outcoached and played poorly and flat in important games. That was hardly Jerrys fault! I doubt any of you are saying Jerry actually did the gameplanning or playcalling last year or at any time. I'm sure plenty on this board would say we would have been much better this year if Sean Payton was our coach. Jerry was not last year and is not now the problem.
We had plenty of talent this year and a good much less great coach would have gotten us further. If Jerry made all these personnel decisions then he's fine by me at GM. Coaching, gameplanning, playcalling and clock management were much bigger problems than lack of talent. That falls squarely on Parcells not Jerry even if everything you guys say is true.
 
scubadoo

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Originally Posted by ruaround
some football knowledge... he was an Ivy League QB that went 0 - 10... he had only one game in the NFL that is close to remarkable...
answer to #1... how do you personally know that Parcells had "complete control"... i would say that his draftees were discussed and approved by the GM...
answer to #2... familiar with Parcells coaching style and his system/schemes...
Ru..over the past decade the Cowboys have not won a single playoff game...and they have been mediocre. Like I have said...if Jones hired a GM and the individual had this record they would be fired. Also, the hiring of Switzer and that other yo-yo would have got the GM fired.
You can only rely on past accomplishments in the nfl for a short period....unless you are the GM and owner...then,....you have ZERO to worry about as GM.
I'm glad he is hanging in there with that role...one less nfc team to be concerned about regarding contending for a championship.
 
scubadoo

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Cowboys still have some Parcells man boob manzeres in the locker room. Keeping this in mind...Wade Phillips gets the job and slides in to the 56 triple E.
 
oceanists

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WHAT ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT!!!! Garret isnt the Offensive coordinator, they are not sure how he is going to work into the team yet .... it could be QB coach .... everybody is jumping to conclusions ...... as stated on the cowboys website .... it is a position to be named at a later date ...... The cowboys just got permission to talk to Norv Turner and they have allready interviewed Wade Phillips. Seteve Marriuchi will be next in line.
 
emmitt2

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Its very convenient to say he hasnt won a playoff game in 10 years considering they won 3 titles and lost a NFC title game in the 4 years prior to that. Teams and players are immortalized for 1 title, he got 3! They'll let Favre ruin that team for 50 more years for the 1 title he won 10 years ago. Alot of people would kill for just 1, You can live off of 3 titles forever!
Most people hate him and even alot of Cowboys fans do. He handled firing Landry incredibly bad but Landry needed to go. Jones taking over won us 3 titles we never would have had without him buying the team and being the "puppetmaster". For me, after suffering thru the late 70's defeats, the early 80's NFC title collapses and then the dark days of the late 80's, to build the team they did and win 3 out of 4 was better than any dream come true.
To me,for bringing 3 titles he can stay and meddle all he wants 'til he's as old and senile as Al Davis......then boot him
 
scubadoo

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Originally Posted by Oceanists
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT!!!! Garret isnt the Offensive coordinator, they are not sure how he is going to work into the team yet .... it could be QB coach .... everybody is jumping to conclusions ...... as stated on the cowboys website .... it is a position to be named at a later date ...... The cowboys just got permission to talk to Norv Turner and they have allready interviewed Wade Phillips. Seteve Marriuchi will be next in line.
Agreed..they have a deadline of tomorrow to sign him..that is when the premission granted by the Dolphins runs out. I think many are somewhat puzzled as usually assistant coaches are hired with head coach input. If Garrett is not the head man...then the new coach is stuck with a Jones hire. Some are debating who is running the ship...a pupet master or if Jones is allowing the head coach. You have to admit that is placing the cart before the horse. JMO
Well..at least ME-O is happy......
Owens happy with coaching change
Wednesday, Jan 24, 2007 10:17 am EST
Dallas Cowboys WR Terrell Owens claims it was for the best that Bill Parcells retired from coaching. The two often went weeks without talking, and Owens believes he was underutilized in the offense, sparking rumors that the often troubled wide receiver factored into Parcells' decision.
 
scubadoo

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The Cowboys said Garrett's responsibilities and title won't be determined until the head coaching search is complete. The most likely scenario, however, is that Garrett will become the offensive coordinator if he's not the head coach.
``The nature and timing of this hire is unique in that we were dealing with a limited window of time in which to talk to Jason about returning to Dallas,'' Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said in a statement.
The Dolphins gave Dallas permission to talk to the 40-year-old Garrett, but also told the former quarterback that he had to decide by Thursday if he was going to sign a contract extension. That deadline passed with Garrett still in Texas.
``Jason is someone who is held in high regard as a bright offensive mind throughout the NFL,'' Jones said. ``We are grateful to the Dolphins for granting the Cowboys permission to explore this opportunity. Jason will now proceed further in our head coaching search as an in-house candidate.''
San Diego defensive coordinator Wade Phillips, the former head coach at Denver and Buffalo who also had interim stints in New Orleans and Atlanta, is scheduled to interview Friday about the head coaching vacancy.
The Cowboys also plan to talk to San Francisco offensive coordinator Norv Turner, a former head coach for Washington and Oakland, and New Orleans defensive coordinator Gary Gibbs. Both are former Dallas assistants. It wasn't clear when those interviews would take place, but Turner is coaching the Senior Bowl on Saturday.
Parcells retired Monday after going 34-32 with two playoff losses in four seasons with the Cowboys, ending a 19-season career that included two Super Bowl titles with the New York Giants.
On Tuesday, Jones interviewed three of Parcells' assistant coaches: assistant head coach Tony Sparano, receivers coach Todd Haley and secondary coach Todd Bowles, who is a minority coach.
Woooooooooo......one jumped in the boat....
 
scubadoo

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Originally Posted by Oceanists
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT!!!! Garret isnt the Offensive coordinator, they are not sure how he is going to work into the team yet .... it could be QB coach .... everybody is jumping to conclusions ...... as stated on the cowboys website .... it is a position to be named at a later date ...... The cowboys just got permission to talk to Norv Turner and they have allready interviewed Wade Phillips. Seteve Marriuchi will be next in line.
oceanists...they've not talked to Phillips yet. He is in Mobile at the Sr Bowl. They have gotten permission.
 
scubadoo

scubadoo

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Originally Posted by Oceanists
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT!!!! Garret isnt the Offensive coordinator, they are not sure how he is going to work into the team yet .... it could be QB coach .... everybody is jumping to conclusions ...... as stated on the cowboys website .... it is a position to be named at a later date ...... The cowboys just got permission to talk to Norv Turner and they have allready interviewed Wade Phillips. Seteve Marriuchi will be next in line.
Oceanists...Garrett was highly regarded by some when he played in NO. He might make a good Offensive coord and could be a sleeper as head coach. Who knows after Mangini and Payton. Both coaches proved you can turn it around in a year.
 
scubadoo

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Hot prospect? Payton wanted him.
Saints Denied Access to Garrett
by FinHeaven | Miami Dolphins January 25, 2006
New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton confirmed that he was denied permission by the Dolphins to speak to with quarterback coach Jason Garrett about joining the New Orleans staff. Garrett spent a year in New Orleans as a scout team quarterback in 1989, and his father, Jim, was an assistant on Hank Stram's Saints coaching staff. Garrett was a quarterback with the New York Giants when Payton coached there. Dolphins coach Nick Saban said Tuesday when asked about Garrett, "Why would I let my quarterback coach be theirs?"
 
ruaround

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Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
I thought you learned your lesson.
just fishing...

jj = string puller...
:happyfish
 
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