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[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by Tarball
And what would that proof be,that bush was wrong about WMDs in Iraq. Already proven. Proof he lied about why we went into Iraq & would leave. Already been proven by our troops still there.
Proof of intentionally lying to congress, congress as already said he provided false information.
He has said many times at the beginning they weren't building permanent military base. But they are doing it as we speak.
Bush as been covered in lies & scandals, but you refuse..How sad.
Building the larges U.S. embassy in the world in Iraq, & we're leaving right!!!

Show me President Bush intentionally lied. Show me it was his lies and not faulty WORLWIDE Intel. Show me the only reason we went into Iraq was because of the perceived WMDs.
It's hard to lie to Congress about something that fellow Congessmen are themselves saying so that's a silly statement.
Show me a quote saying we would never build a base in Iraq. We make agreements to build bases with allies all the time...

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by Tarball
....Clinton didn't Invade Iraq did he. Maybe he thought one way or the other. But he didn't make a fool of himself by attacking a country under false pretenses.....
Many would argue that is worse...
President Clinton "knew" Iraq had WMDs (by his own admission) and yet failed to act. President Clinton publically stated Iraq was a threat to the United States and our allies yet refused to act. President Clinton knew Iraq was violating the Desert Storm Treaty, yet refused to act...

 

[tarball]

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
I find this statement retarded coming from someone that has not provided any info themselves.
and yet again you have dodged giving your thoughts regarding the link provided. once again proving democrats aren't interested in facts, just their perceptions.
I read it, I've read similar reports. The so called super spy they based the inner intelligence on was proven to be not trustworth before the invasion. Which proved to be correct. But the point is, Cia new he wasn't trustworth & lacked credibility before hand but still provided his intelligence to congress as fact.
Looks to me the report turned out wrong. Do you really think syria is hiding WMDs in the desert to protect Saddam.
No reality in that. Did Iran buy some WMDs from Iraq. Only Iran knows that.
Did Russia & China have oil deals with Iraq. I'm sure, But that has nothing to do with them providing WMDs To Iraq. & probably had nothing to do with there vote in The security council. Because they stuck to the sanctions.
I can show you 10 reports that can contradict that report.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Tarball
You forget they where wrong, You forget about sanctions, You refuse to believe the world applied the sanctions. Its been proven Iraq didn't have WMDs. What wrong with You?
Watch your insulting comments.
I never said anything insulting. Just made an observation.
I never said anything about sanctions, I don't know how you could argue that I'm ignoring them. Because I don't think they played into the decision into going to war. It has been proven that Iraq DID have WMD, they founds barrels of Sarin, and Mustard gas in '06. Hussien DID gas the kurds in the 80's and used something on us during the first gulf war. that Gulf war syndrome came from something.

 

[tarball]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
When did we learn this? When did we learn that they weren't chemical, biological and nuclear facilities? Did President Clinton ever say "I messed up;those weren't what I said they were?"
No. Yet somehow the current President was supposed to know Clinton "lied".
Maybe after the bombing cause of lack of casualties. Blowing up nuclear, Chemical, & biological Labs have a profound effect in the area. durrr

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by Tarball
.... Because they stuck to the sanctions.....
Wow...
Google "Oil for Food" program and see how many billions were funneled to these countries you claim were sticking to the sanctions...

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by Tarball
I read it, I've read similar reports. The so called super spy they based the inner intelligence on was proven to be not trustworth before the invasion. Which proved to be correct. But the point is, Cia new he wasn't trustworth & lacked credibility before hand but still provided his intelligence to congress as fact.
Looks to me the report turned out wrong. Do you really think syria is hiding WMDs in the desert to protect Saddam.
No reality in that. Did Iran buy some WMDs from Iraq. Only Iran knows that.
Did Russia & China have oil deals with Iraq. I'm sure, But that has nothing to do with them providing WMDs To Iraq. & probably had nothing to do with there vote in The security council. Because they stuck to the sanctions.
I can show you 10 reports that can contradict that report.

Then why did Isreal recently attack and bomb an area in Syria?

 

[tarball]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
I never said anything insulting. Just made an observation.
I never said anything about sanctions, I don't know how you could argue that I'm ignoring them. Because I don't think they played into the decision into going to war. It has been proven that Iraq DID have WMD, they founds barrels of Sarin, and Mustard gas in '06. Hussien DID gas the kurds in the 80's and used something on us during the first gulf war. that Gulf war syndrome came from something.

Well I can make an observation that you're a narrow minded idiot. Could that be considered a insult...

I don't think we should go there.

 

[tarball]

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
Then why did Isreal recently attack and bomb an area in Syria?
Has nothing to do the Bushs disinformation to congress or the American people for support of war.
Out of context.
Area? maybe they don't like scorpions!!!

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by Tarball
I read it, I've read similar reports. The so called super spy they based the inner intelligence on was proven to be not trustworth before the invasion. Which proved to be correct. But the point is, Cia new he wasn't trustworth & lacked credibility before hand but still provided his intelligence to congress as fact.
Looks to me the report turned out wrong. Do you really think syria is hiding WMDs in the desert to protect Saddam.
No reality in that. Did Iran buy some WMDs from Iraq. Only Iran knows that.
Did Russia & China have oil deals with Iraq. I'm sure, But that has nothing to do with them providing WMDs To Iraq. & probably had nothing to do with there vote in The security council. Because they stuck to the sanctions.
I can show you 10 reports that can contradict that report.

That report is NOT finished. If you read carefully you would have known that as this report is still being conducted today.
As for your 10 reports, how about you show me just 1 that contradicts that one in full.
I won't hold my breath waiting.

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by Tarball
Has nothing to do the Bushs disinformation to congress or the American people for support of war.
Out of context.
Area? maybe they don't like scorpions!!!

No it doesn't, however you fail to see that Syria is one country believed to have received WMDs from Iraq pre war, the Isrealis have only done a mission like this opnce in the past, and that was to take out a nuclear facility in Iraq. Maybe you can do the math understand by putting 2 and 2 together and see how this relates to the subject. If you can't see that then there is no more need to discuss with you. By the way, who are you voting for, Hilary or Obama?

 

[darthtang aw]

And if Iraq didn't hav WMDs explain the barrels of sarin and nerve agent, explain the 50 missles located filled with these....he didn't ever have WMDs, you have to be a fool to believe that.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Tarball
Well I can make an observation that you're a narrow minded idiot. Could that be considered a insult...

I don't think we should go there.
And yet, you can't prove me wrong...

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by Tarball
Maybe after the bombing cause of lack of casualties. Blowing up nuclear, Chemical, & biological Labs have a profound effect in the area. durrr
Really...
How many Iraqi casualties were there in 1981 when Israel blew up the Osirak Reactor in Iraq?
That said, do you really believe Saddam would have told us their were civilian casualties?

 

[stdreb27]

your only argument is that Bush lied. You have to do better than that if you want to even titalate my curiosity.

 

[tarball]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Wow...
Google "Oil for Food" program and see how many billions were funneled to these countries you claim were sticking to the sanctions...
Sanctions against weapon,
Russia, China, Arab world, Europe, all aboded by the weapons sanctions. Its obvious.
Nobody wanted that fool saddam to have WMDs. & our intelligence new it. Was it possible that saddam got some Yes.
But highly unlikely, Like proven.
It would of been proven if The UN inspectors were given more time. Bush didn't want that. So he told them to get their ass out & commenced to bomb Iraq so our troops can move in & stay. It was the plan from the beginning. If you like lies, you have a president dumping them on America Like we're fools.
I personally don't need to see it written on a piece of paper to understand what happening. I discovered it sept. 2002.

 

[tarball]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
your only argument is that Bush lied. You have to do better than that if you want to even titalate my curiosity.
Doesn't matter to me what you think. I'm not making comments for your attention.

 

[tarball]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Really...
How many Iraqi casualties were there in 1981 when Israel blew up the Osirak Reactor in Iraq?
That said, do you really believe Saddam would have told us their were civilian casualties?
Wouldn't need saddam to tell us anything, reports from neighboring countries would be funneled threw the United Nations. Then made public.
Your point is mute, because they weren't biological, chemical or nuclear facilities.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Tarball
Sanctions against weapon,
Russia, China, Arab world, Europe, all aboded by the weapons sanctions. Its obvious.
Nobody wanted that fool saddam to have WMDs. & our intelligence new it. Was it possible that saddam got some Yes.
But highly unlikely, Like proven.
It would of been proven if The UN inspectors were given more time. Bush didn't want that. So he told them to get their ass out & commenced to bomb Iraq so our troops can move in & stay. It was the plan from the beginning. If you like lies, you have a president dumping them on America Like we're fools.
I personally don't need to see it written on a piece of paper to understand what happening. I discovered it sept. 2002.
Discovered what?
-Narrow minded (and right) Idiot.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Tarball
Doesn't matter to me what you think. I'm not making comments for your attention.
so you just like to hear yourself talk?
-narrowminded (and right) idiot