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[tarball]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Please post facts... I and other's on my side of the aisle aren't afraid of them.
Understand, however, at some point you are going to have to start refuting our facts....
And what would that proof be,that bush was wrong about WMDs in Iraq. Already proven. Proof he lied about why we went into Iraq & would leave. Already been proven by our troops still there.
Proof of intentionally lying to congress, congress as already said he provided false information.
He has said many times at the beginning they weren't building permanent military base. But they are doing it as we speak.
Bush as been covered in lies & scandals, but you refuse..How sad.
Building the larges U.S. embassy in the world in Iraq, & we're leaving right!!!

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by Tarball
And what would that proof be,that bush was wrong about WMDs in Iraq. Already proven. Proof he lied about why we went into Iraq & would leave. Already been proven by our troops still there.
Proof of intentionally lying to congress, congress as already said he provided false information.
He has said many times at the beginning they weren't building permanent military base. But they are doing it as we speak.
Bush as been covered in lies & scandals, but you refuse..How sad.
Building the larges U.S. embassy in the world in Iraq, & we're leaving right!!!

You are not paying attention, you have yet to show any documentation he made up the WMD pitch. You have yet to show ONE credibal source that viewed the material and disagreed with the analysis. You have yet to show one single intelligence agency in the world that disagreed with the analysis.
All you have given is a story that tracked the number of times he mentioned WMD or al qaeda. Nothing in there proves he lied, just how many times he stated it. How is this proof.
See this is the problem with the democratic party, you make a statement and that is supposed to be accepted as factyual without giving full complete proof.

 

[tarball]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
It was, did you not read clintons speech I posted earlier in the thread? How stupid do you think we are?
And how dumb is your democrat congress if it was SOOO OBVIOUS that there were no wmd's. To vote for it anyway?
Obviously congress was very stupid for believing bush.
But, shame on congress for trusting its president & intelligence coming from the conservative republican.
What a shame they are called dumb for trusting the system, your right its all their fault for believing in a lying president & his neo-con conservatives. Bad Americans, bad, shame on the demoracy for trusting the republic

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
See this is the problem with the democratic party, you make a statement and that is supposed to be accepted as factyual without giving full complete proof.
Or any for that matter. I make a statement and can back it up.

 

[mfp1016]

I never realized how much Democrats LOVE conspiracy theories until reading this thread.

 

[mfp1016]

Originally Posted by Tarball
Obviously congress was very stupid for believing bush.
But, shame on congress for trusting its president & intelligence coming from the conservative republican.
What a shame they are called dumb for trusting the system, your right its all their fault for believing in a lying president & his neo-con conservatives. Bad Americans, bad, shame on the demoracy for trusting the republic
That "republican" used the same intell as everyone's beloved Democrat hero, Clinton.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Tarball
Obviously congress was very stupid for believing bush.
But, shame on congress for trusting its president & intelligence coming from the conservative republican.
What a shame they are called dumb for trusting the system, your right its all their fault for believing in a lying president & his neo-con conservatives. Bad Americans, bad, shame on the demoracy for trusting the republic
You can't be serious.
You don't see a problem with congress not doing their job, and finding out on their own. (somthing you should look into doing instead of just getting your news from the Clinton News Network)
You don't see a problem with you arguing that the CIA is in the tank with bush? When within the last couple years there has been MAJOR leaks that have seriously jepordized our national security? And politically harming to Bush.
Not counting the intellegence Clinton used. How would you explain that speech? Come on, if you want to debate, then make a little sense at least.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by mfp1016
I never realized how much Democrats LOVE conspiracy theories until reading this thread.
They only love conspiracy theories as long as a clinton is not involved.

Does anyone remember, Vince Foster, Sandy Bergler, Norman Shu, who ever it was that died in kennedy's car, William Jefferson democrap from LA.

 

[tarball]

Why do you people support false info, Why do you people continue to support a president that is a complete freaking idiot.
People love lies, it amazes me. You people amaze me. Just for all the wrong reasons.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Tarball
Why do you people support false info, Why do you people continue to support a president that is a complete freaking idiot.
People love lies, it amazes me. You people amaze me. Just for all the wrong reasons.
And yet, you cannot refute anything we say...
I ask (although it may cause an overload if you really honestly think about it, and not follow your liberal religion blindly) Who is the real liar? Bush, or the DNC?

 

[bang guy]

Originally Posted by Tarball
Why do you people support false info, Why do you people continue to support a president that is a complete freaking idiot.
People love lies, it amazes me. You people amaze me. Just for all the wrong reasons.
So far it appears that everyone is an idiot except you. It must be lonely in your enlightened world.

 

[tarball]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
And yet, you cannot refute anything we say...
I ask (although it may cause an overload if you really honestly think about it, and not follow your liberal religion blindly) Who is the real liar? Bush, or the DNC?
What is there to debate with you, That bush has been forthright & upfront about his agenda. What are you saying that Bush is a great guy & would never fabricate false information.

That Bush Pulled the troops out of Iraq after he found the WMDs.
That you continue trying to drag Clinton into the scope to protect Bush.Clinton didn't Invade Iraq did he. Maybe he thought one way or the other. But he didn't make a fool of himself by attacking a country under false pretenses.
Actually the neo-cons wanted Clinton to Invade Iraq & he rejected the idea. So they put an Idiot like bush in office to do it.

 

[rylan1]

Originally Posted by Tarball
The fact they weren't WMD facilities only lesson the fact of them being there. Which was obvious before bush's invasion.
You continue to drag the point out of scope.
I agree... In order to believe there were... you have to come up with this "Only in the Movies" scenario, which leads me to believe there wasn't and if there was.. it was destroyed in 1998.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Tarball
What is there to debate with you, That bush has been forthright & upfront about his agenda. What are you saying that Bush is a great guy & would never fabricate false information.

That Bush Pulled the troops out of Iraq after he found the WMDs.
That you continue trying to drag Clinton into the scope to protect Bush.Clinton didn't Invade Iraq did he. Maybe he thought one way or the other. But he did make a fool of himself by attacking a country under false pretenses.
Actually the neo-cons wanted Clinton to Invade Iraq & he rejected the idea. So they put an Idiot like bush in office to do it.
Actually this isn't a debate at all, you come in spout out a bunch of unsupportable nonsense, then fail to respond to a well grounded thought out response. or any response for that matter.
Personally if every intellegence report I read said Iraq has WMDs, and every one I read from other countries, Great Britian, Israel, France, Germany, Russia, Egypt. I'd believe it. How can it be a lie if you believe it is true?
Clinton has alot to do with this, one he thought there were WMD's too. Coming from the same intellegence that bush saw.
Two you claim that Bush totally fabricated everything. How could he fabricate something, if the previous prez held the same opinion.
You claim that this administration is riddled with "corruption" but we don't have to look far, to see an administration that is far worse than the Bush admin.
But I don't know what I expect from Skulls full of mush.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Rylan1
I agree... In order to believe there were... you have to come up with this "Only in the Movies" scenario, which leads me to believe there wasn't and if there was.. it was destroyed in 1998.
Or moved out, he had the time, they have some circumstantial evidence. But whatever happened to them, I think those secrets went down with sadaam.

 

[tarball]

People refuse to remember the sanction on Iraq were devastating for the country. The would stuck to the sanctions when it came to weapons. Thats a fact, easy to see. Why does a person need someone else to right it down for them so they can read it to believe. Open your eyes & look at the facts... No WMDs, sanctions fully enforced when it came to WMDs.
That's why they weren't there. Bush new, very low probability of them being there. That's why our troops were allowed hall ass across the desert like they did.

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by Tarball
Why do you people support false info, Why do you people continue to support a president that is a complete freaking idiot.
People love lies, it amazes me. You people amaze me. Just for all the wrong reasons.
I find this statement retarded coming from someone that has not provided any info themselves.
and yet again you have dodged giving your thoughts regarding the link provided. once again proving democrats aren't interested in facts, just their perceptions.

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by Tarball
People refuse to remember the sanction on Iraq were devastating for the country. The would stuck to the sanctions when it came to weapons. Thats a fact, easy to see. Why does a person need someone else to right it down for them so they can read it to believe. Open your eyes & look at the facts... No WMDs, sanctions fully enforced when it came to WMDs.
That's why they weren't there. Bush new, very low probability of them being there. That's why our troops were allowed hall ass across the desert like they did.
You didn't read the link at all...

 

[tarball]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
Actually this isn't a debate at all, you come in spout out a bunch of unsupportable nonsense, then fail to respond to a well grounded thought out response. or any response for that matter.
Personally if every intellegence report I read said Iraq has WMDs, and every one I read from other countries, Great Britian, Israel, France, Germany, Russia, Egypt. I'd believe it. How can it be a lie if you believe it is true?
But I don't know what I expect from Skulls full of mush.
You forget they where wrong, You forget about sanctions, You refuse to believe the world applied the sanctions. Its been proven Iraq didn't have WMDs. What wrong with You?
Watch your insulting comments.

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by Tarball
The fact they weren't WMD facilities only lesson the fact of them being there. Which was obvious before bush's invasion.
You continue to drag the point out of scope.
When did we learn this? When did we learn that they weren't chemical, biological and nuclear facilities? Did President Clinton ever say "I messed up;those weren't what I said they were?"
No. Yet somehow the current President was supposed to know Clinton "lied".