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reefraff

reefraff

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The only failing of the new deal was it led to the great society of the 60's which has turned us into a debtor nation.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by acrylics
http:///forum/post/2749238
That said, I'm not certain what the ramifications would be if the Fed didn't bail out Fannie and Freddie. Can you imagine the fallout if they both went under? They could operate pretty well under BK protection for a little while but they would not have a source of cash if foreclosures went to high. If they did collapse completely, the domino effect could be disastrous. So I have to put some trust in him on this, he simply knows a whole lot more about it than I do.
Again, JMO
Well at some point you've got to let things that have been artificially influenced correct, just a matter of deciding when. And finding a politician willing to accept the hell for it. But yeah, at some point you have to "put some trust in him on this, he simply knows a whole lot more about it than I do." And that is kind why I'm using this as an example of market failure, but not saying this is what they should do. Because I have no idea what would happen, (other than it being impossible to own a house).
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2745093
but the New Deal was one of the best times for this country...economically...and there were major socialist policies going on. .

Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2749307
Please leave the rewriting of history to the liberals.
The New Deal was chartered in 1933, the Great Depression started in 1929.
Bang guy, I was referring to this statement. Not saying the New Deal started the depression.
 
matt b

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I think if the hocky mom/bull dog spent less time bashing obama and more talking about real stuff people might not think shes just there to get women votes.
 
clownfish11

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the vp is supposed to do that....thats her job! McCain talks about the real stuff and palin is the attacker..
 
sickboy

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2749100
2 words
GREAT DEPRESSION
Yes, and how did we get out of the depression? New Deal economics.
I should have said that the resulting period after the "New Deal" proper was one of the best times economically. But considering that most of these programs and policies continued well after, I have lumped the whole period as the new deal. Some of these programs are still around....social security, etc....
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2749819
Yes, and how did we get out of the depression? New Deal economics.
I should have said that the resulting period after the "New Deal" proper was one of the best times economically. But considering that most of these programs and policies continued well after, I have lumped the whole period as the new deal. Some of these programs are still around....social security, etc....
WW II pulled us out of the depression.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2749819
Yes, and how did we get out of the depression? New Deal economics.
I should have said that the resulting period after the "New Deal" proper was one of the best times economically. But considering that most of these programs and policies continued well after, I have lumped the whole period as the new deal. Some of these programs are still around....social security, etc....
And they aren't sustainable... Which is the whole problem with the policies.
Have you studied the 70's yet?
If you want to call WWII and the massive govt spending "new deal" economic policies. Then sure that got us out of a depression, but then you should be happy for the spending the govt is doing to fund the iraq war.
 
spanko

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Heard a marketing guy talking this morning about the branding of the candidates. He likened Sarah Palin to New Coke.
Pepsi was gaining market share with their advertising about the new generation of Pepsi drinkers (replace Obama for Pepsi).
Coke came out with New Coke (put Sarah Palin in here) to go head to head with Pepsi. Coke also called it the new generation drink.
Ultimately what happened was that the populace said wait a minute we like the old Coke and back it came as Classic Coke. It gained back all of it's market plus some.
No the analogy is that while the Republicans have put Sarah out there head to head with Obama, more experience etc. etc., McCain is able to float above the fray and do what he needs to do to get his message out and gain popularity.
So check out the new polls here.... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...lls/index.html ... which show that where Obama had a clear lead in the past few weeks the race is now a dead heat.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/2750043
Heard a marketing guy talking this morning about the branding of the candidates. He likened Sarah Palin to New Coke.
Pepsi was gaining market share with their advertising about the new generation of Pepsi drinkers (replace Obama for Pepsi).
Coke came out with New Coke (put Sarah Palin in here) to go head to head with Pepsi. Coke also called it the new generation drink.
Ultimately what happened was that the populace said wait a minute we like the old Coke and back it came as Classic Coke. It gained back all of it's market plus some.
No the analogy is that while the Republicans have put Sarah out there head to head with Obama, more experience etc. etc., McCain is able to float above the fray and do what he needs to do to get his message out and gain popularity.
So check out the new polls here.... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...lls/index.html ... which show that where Obama had a clear lead in the past few weeks the race is now a dead heat.
I dunno, new coke was a fizzle, I think she has some staying power. The problem is people disregard the conservative wing of the republican party. And I think they have a larger power than people realize. Remember Reagan won 49 states as a conservative.
 
rylan1

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My question is when are they going to put Palin out there.... she is avoiding all interviews and she only appears with McCain at events... We know that everthing up to this point is being fed by the campaign... Yes, I personally am waiting for her to mess up... however; that is besides the point... it does seem like they are limiting her exposure because she is not prepared or knowledgable on certain issues.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2750094
My question is when are they going to put Palin out there.... she is avoiding all interviews and she only appears with McCain at events... We know that everthing up to this point is being fed by the campaign... Yes, I personally am waiting for her to mess up... however; that is besides the point... it does seem like they are limiting her exposure because she is not prepared or knowledgable on certain issues.
There is no point in feeding the ravenous wolves.
Maybe they are smarter than the Obama camp.
This is what their veep said last week.
"We will not be stopped from pursuing any criminal offence that's occurred," he continued, going on to praise congressional committees for the deliberate pace of their inquiries into alleged Bush administration misdeeds.
Members of Congress are "doing the right thing, they're not making false accusations about anything … they're collecting data, subpoenaing records, they're building a file", Biden said.
"If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation, they will be pursued – not out of vengeance, not out of retribution, out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no attorney general, no president -- no one is above the law."http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...s2008.joebiden
Then turns around and says this on Fox and Friends.
Brian Kilmeade of Fox & Friends raised that issue with Biden on Thursday morning, asking about "a report that if you guys are elected ... you're actually going to pursue criminal charges against President Bush's administration and different people that served there."
"That's not true," Biden immediately replied. "I don't know where that report's coming from. What is true is the United States Congress is trying to preserve records on questions that relate to whether or not the law has been violated by anyone. Anybody should be doing that."
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Biden_...s_if_0904.html
btw where is this unstoppable obama movement?
 
bang guy

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2750094
it does seem like they are limiting her exposure because she is not prepared or knowledgable on certain issues.
That's reasonable. I'm sure she's being brought up to speed on national economic issues and foreign policy. You must believe she's a true political savant if you expected her to be ready within a week.
That first debate against Biden is going to be a rough one. Don't forget she's not debating against Obama, she's going head to head with a seasoned professional.
 
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