Smoking ban in public places
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jennythebugg
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Originally Posted by mie
Yes drinking may be bad for YOUR health but not MY health.
Drinking and driving is a completly different topic.
if someone is drinking in public how do they get home? they certainly don't call a cab EVERY time they have a drink or 2 if they did we wouldnt have near the dui's we do and not near as many repeat offenders on it
Yes drinking may be bad for YOUR health but not MY health.
Drinking and driving is a completly different topic.
if someone is drinking in public how do they get home? they certainly don't call a cab EVERY time they have a drink or 2 if they did we wouldnt have near the dui's we do and not near as many repeat offenders on it
jennythebugg
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Originally Posted by TriGa22
My friends dad, probably 48-50. Can drink (been there at the time) 8 draft beers over 2 hours and act/drive like nothing happened. I think he could get to 12 before signs appear.
i personally don't consider that a good thing
My friends dad, probably 48-50. Can drink (been there at the time) 8 draft beers over 2 hours and act/drive like nothing happened. I think he could get to 12 before signs appear.
i personally don't consider that a good thing
mie
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Originally Posted by TriGa22
My friends dad, probably 48-50. Can drink (been there at the time) 8 draft beers over 2 hours and act/drive like nothing happened. I think he could get to 12 before signs appear.
I am the same way, however alcohol affects everybody differently.
Like i said this is a different topic, with that being said i do not support drinking and driving and do agree that it is a problem.
My friends dad, probably 48-50. Can drink (been there at the time) 8 draft beers over 2 hours and act/drive like nothing happened. I think he could get to 12 before signs appear.
I am the same way, however alcohol affects everybody differently.
Like i said this is a different topic, with that being said i do not support drinking and driving and do agree that it is a problem.
sepulatian
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It was banned in NY a LONG time ago. I completely agree with the law. Why should people that do not smoke have to breathe it in when smokers can simply just go outside.
tangman99
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The smoking ban was the best thing that ever happened in Florida. Even with non-smoking sections in resteraunts, you could still smell it a lot of times depending on how the resteraunt was setup. Bars were the only thing that was ever really debated. I believe bars are allowed to remain smoking if less than 10% of their revenue is from serving food.
sepulatian
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Originally Posted by TriGa22
My friends dad, probably 48-50. Can drink (been there at the time) 8 draft beers over 2 hours and act/drive like nothing happened. I think he could get to 12 before signs appear.
Many people can, that does not mean that they are not intoxicated though. NY has a zero tollerence law and just reduced the legal alcohol level to .08 (sorry, was a typo).
My friends dad, probably 48-50. Can drink (been there at the time) 8 draft beers over 2 hours and act/drive like nothing happened. I think he could get to 12 before signs appear.
Many people can, that does not mean that they are not intoxicated though. NY has a zero tollerence law and just reduced the legal alcohol level to .08 (sorry, was a typo).
sepulatian
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Originally Posted by TangMan99
The smoking ban was the best thing that ever happened in Florida. Even with non-smoking sections in resteraunts, you could still smell it a lot of times depending on how the resteraunt was setup. Bars were the only thing that was ever really debated. I believe bars are allowed to remain smoking if less than 10% of their revenue is from serving food.
Not here. Most businesses such as bars and restaurants just have nice decks and patios for their smoking customers to go to. In many of the nicer places they have built an outdoor room. The roof is raised a few inches from the walls so that the wind does not make the patrons cold, but it is technically outdoors and it is away from the main restaurant and/or bar.
The smoking ban was the best thing that ever happened in Florida. Even with non-smoking sections in resteraunts, you could still smell it a lot of times depending on how the resteraunt was setup. Bars were the only thing that was ever really debated. I believe bars are allowed to remain smoking if less than 10% of their revenue is from serving food.
Not here. Most businesses such as bars and restaurants just have nice decks and patios for their smoking customers to go to. In many of the nicer places they have built an outdoor room. The roof is raised a few inches from the walls so that the wind does not make the patrons cold, but it is technically outdoors and it is away from the main restaurant and/or bar.
reefraff
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Back when I was still drinking ( still drink once in a while but had to cut way back for health reasons) I was a trained professional
I could knock down a 12 pack in an afternoon and most people would never know I had been drinking. That doesn't mean I wasn't impared. You drink over 3 or 4 beers and you are impared to some extint, I don't care who you are. You may be just fine to drive but your reaction time wont be the same.
I could knock down a 12 pack in an afternoon and most people would never know I had been drinking. That doesn't mean I wasn't impared. You drink over 3 or 4 beers and you are impared to some extint, I don't care who you are. You may be just fine to drive but your reaction time wont be the same.
tangman99
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Originally Posted by TriGa22
My friends dad, probably 48-50. Can drink (been there at the time) 8 draft beers over 2 hours and act/drive like nothing happened. I think he could get to 12 before signs appear.
Doesn't matter if you can stand on your head and stack BBs. If you blow over .008 (in FL), you are going for a little ride downtown.
My friends dad, probably 48-50. Can drink (been there at the time) 8 draft beers over 2 hours and act/drive like nothing happened. I think he could get to 12 before signs appear.
Doesn't matter if you can stand on your head and stack BBs. If you blow over .008 (in FL), you are going for a little ride downtown.
fishygurl
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I am glad that they banned it, I hope it stops people from using it since it can cause many things,(not like anything else cant) but others arnt affected by people that drink have fast food, etc, (well maybe when they drink if they drive or do something stupid, but then they are being illegal anyways.)
I do not get why people would want to smoke, well maybe i do i have wondered what it tasted like, but i have not been stupid enough to try it.
Anyone gets affected by seeing people smoke, so they just want to try it and since it has that ingredient in it or whatever it makes u "addicted" somehow they get addicted, I have these two girls that are 15 that one day decided to start smoking after the bus. They couldnt stop coughing which made me not get why they liked it. Well ever since they have smoked more and more, grades have dropped and have just stopped caring, now i see a bunch of people at school that do drugs and just dont care anymore which is really sad. I also like that it is rather exspensive to buy it, just to help prevent people from continuing smoking.
Some people that smoke can be really stupid and are jerks, that think they are cool by smoking. I have just walked past guys that smoke every now and then and i have to hold my breath cuz almost everytime i walk by they breathe in really big and blow out all over right where i am walking(like in my face) Of the air i breathed in and smelled it was really gross. Not to mention i am allergic to smoke. I just dont see how it does any good. (not like alcohol is good but i like that a lot more than smoking- its just all the stupid people in the world that take things to get high off of, that end up doing stupid things and going crazy. I know a guy at school used to get beat by his dad when he was high(off of smoking and drinking)
I dont know i just dont like smoking (although there are very nice people that smoke)...Just my opinion...
I do not get why people would want to smoke, well maybe i do i have wondered what it tasted like, but i have not been stupid enough to try it.
Anyone gets affected by seeing people smoke, so they just want to try it and since it has that ingredient in it or whatever it makes u "addicted" somehow they get addicted, I have these two girls that are 15 that one day decided to start smoking after the bus. They couldnt stop coughing which made me not get why they liked it. Well ever since they have smoked more and more, grades have dropped and have just stopped caring, now i see a bunch of people at school that do drugs and just dont care anymore which is really sad. I also like that it is rather exspensive to buy it, just to help prevent people from continuing smoking.
Some people that smoke can be really stupid and are jerks, that think they are cool by smoking. I have just walked past guys that smoke every now and then and i have to hold my breath cuz almost everytime i walk by they breathe in really big and blow out all over right where i am walking(like in my face) Of the air i breathed in and smelled it was really gross. Not to mention i am allergic to smoke. I just dont see how it does any good. (not like alcohol is good but i like that a lot more than smoking- its just all the stupid people in the world that take things to get high off of, that end up doing stupid things and going crazy. I know a guy at school used to get beat by his dad when he was high(off of smoking and drinking)
I dont know i just dont like smoking (although there are very nice people that smoke)...Just my opinion...
darknes
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Originally Posted by TangMan99
Doesn't matter if you can stand on your head and stack BBs. If you blow over .008 (in FL), you are going for a little ride downtown.
What??? 0.008? That has to be .08
If that's correct, I find that ridiculous. If you go out to dinner and have one glass of wine or a single drink, you're going to blow over .008!
Doesn't matter if you can stand on your head and stack BBs. If you blow over .008 (in FL), you are going for a little ride downtown.
What??? 0.008? That has to be .08
If that's correct, I find that ridiculous. If you go out to dinner and have one glass of wine or a single drink, you're going to blow over .008!
b bauer
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Originally Posted by reefreak29
just some stats I found on the net.
During 2005, 16,885 people in the U.S. died in alcohol-related motor vehicle crashes, representing 39% of all traffic-related deaths (NHTSA 2006).
( these are just deaths not injuries)
people that died from second hand smoke 3000
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* Secondhand smoke, also known as environmental tobacco smoke, is a complex mixture of gases and particles that includes smoke from the burning cigarette, cigar, or pipe tip (sidestream smoke) and exhaled mainstream smoke.1
* Secondhand smoke contains at least 250 chemicals known to be toxic, including more than 50 that can cause cancer.1
Health Effects of Secondhand Smoke Exposure
* Secondhand smoke exposure causes heart disease and lung cancer in nonsmoking adults.2
* Nonsmokers who are exposed to secondhand smoke at home or work increase their heart disease risk by 25–30% and their lung cancer risk by 20–30%.2
* Breathing secondhand smoke has immediate harmful effects on the cardiovascular system that can increase the risk of heart attack. People who already have heart disease are at especially high risk.2
* Secondhand smoke exposure causes respiratory symptoms in children and slows their lung growth.2
* Secondhand smoke causes sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS), acute respiratory infections, ear problems, and more frequent and severe asthma attacks in children.2
* There is no risk-free level of secondhand smoke exposure. Even brief exposure can be dangerous.2
Current Estimates of Secondhand Smoke Exposure
* Exposure to nicotine and secondhand smoke is measured by testing the saliva, urine, or blood for the presence of a chemical called cotinine. Cotinine is a byproduct of nicotine metabolization, and tobacco is the only source of this marker.2
* From 1988–91 to 2001–02, the proportion of nonsmokers with detectable levels cotinine was halved (from 88% to 43%).3
* Over that same time period, cotinine levels in those who were exposed to secondhand smoke fell by 70%.3
* More than 126 million nonsmoking Americans continue to be exposed to secondhand smoke in homes, vehicles, workplaces, and public places.2
* Most exposure to tobacco smoke occurs in homes and workplaces.2
* Almost 60% of U.S. children aged 3–11 years—or almost 22 million children—are exposed to secondhand smoke.2
* About 25% of children aged 3–11 years live with at least one smoker, compared to only about 7% of nonsmoking adults.2
* The California Environmental Protection Agency estimates that secondhand smoke exposure causes approximately 3,400 lung cancer deaths and 22,700–69,600 heart disease deaths annually among adult nonsmokers in the United States.4
* Each year in the United States, secondhand smoke exposure is responsible for 150,000–300,000 new cases of bronchitis and pneumonia in children aged less than 18 months. This results in 7,500–15,000 hospitalizations, annually.5
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Office on Smoking and Health
E-mail: tobaccoinfo@cdc.gov
Phone: 1-800-CDC-INFO
Media Inquiries: Contact CDC's Office on Smoking and Health press line at 770-488-5493.
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just some stats I found on the net.
During 2005, 16,885 people in the U.S. died in alcohol-related motor vehicle crashes, representing 39% of all traffic-related deaths (NHTSA 2006).
( these are just deaths not injuries)
people that died from second hand smoke 3000
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* Secondhand smoke, also known as environmental tobacco smoke, is a complex mixture of gases and particles that includes smoke from the burning cigarette, cigar, or pipe tip (sidestream smoke) and exhaled mainstream smoke.1
* Secondhand smoke contains at least 250 chemicals known to be toxic, including more than 50 that can cause cancer.1
Health Effects of Secondhand Smoke Exposure
* Secondhand smoke exposure causes heart disease and lung cancer in nonsmoking adults.2
* Nonsmokers who are exposed to secondhand smoke at home or work increase their heart disease risk by 25–30% and their lung cancer risk by 20–30%.2
* Breathing secondhand smoke has immediate harmful effects on the cardiovascular system that can increase the risk of heart attack. People who already have heart disease are at especially high risk.2
* Secondhand smoke exposure causes respiratory symptoms in children and slows their lung growth.2
* Secondhand smoke causes sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS), acute respiratory infections, ear problems, and more frequent and severe asthma attacks in children.2
* There is no risk-free level of secondhand smoke exposure. Even brief exposure can be dangerous.2
Current Estimates of Secondhand Smoke Exposure
* Exposure to nicotine and secondhand smoke is measured by testing the saliva, urine, or blood for the presence of a chemical called cotinine. Cotinine is a byproduct of nicotine metabolization, and tobacco is the only source of this marker.2
* From 1988–91 to 2001–02, the proportion of nonsmokers with detectable levels cotinine was halved (from 88% to 43%).3
* Over that same time period, cotinine levels in those who were exposed to secondhand smoke fell by 70%.3
* More than 126 million nonsmoking Americans continue to be exposed to secondhand smoke in homes, vehicles, workplaces, and public places.2
* Most exposure to tobacco smoke occurs in homes and workplaces.2
* Almost 60% of U.S. children aged 3–11 years—or almost 22 million children—are exposed to secondhand smoke.2
* About 25% of children aged 3–11 years live with at least one smoker, compared to only about 7% of nonsmoking adults.2
* The California Environmental Protection Agency estimates that secondhand smoke exposure causes approximately 3,400 lung cancer deaths and 22,700–69,600 heart disease deaths annually among adult nonsmokers in the United States.4
* Each year in the United States, secondhand smoke exposure is responsible for 150,000–300,000 new cases of bronchitis and pneumonia in children aged less than 18 months. This results in 7,500–15,000 hospitalizations, annually.5
For Further Information
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion
Office on Smoking and Health
E-mail: tobaccoinfo@cdc.gov
Phone: 1-800-CDC-INFO
Media Inquiries: Contact CDC's Office on Smoking and Health press line at 770-488-5493.
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jonthefishguy
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That seems to be outdated. 1998 to 2001-02
reefreak29
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yes facts are facts and the fact is that smoking causes cancer and premature heart disease.Now if we are going to control people that do distructive things i would like to see alchohol banned , gambleing gone, fast food no way lets get rid of everything bad for us. If we really care about peoples health we need to get rid of everything destructive to us