So. Who are you voting for?
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2quills
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What do you mean? Washington has the best reset switch there is. It's called the American tax payer. You don't think we are bailing out failed policies every day? You'd be mistaken.
I thought you were looking for something better and finding it in Trump?
bang guy
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Change is great, actually, going back to politicians working for the country instead of the party would be good. My issue with Trump is that he is not mentally stable. I can imagine waking up one morning to discover we've nuked Denmark or something as a result of one of his temper tantrums..
2quills
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I am. But no I'm not finding it in Trump. I had given him consideration for the simple fact that he was successful in business. Honestly, 4 bankruptcies out of literally hundreds of deals isn't really as bad as it sounds.
But I'm with Bang, in the fact that I don't like the personality and when he starts calling everyone else a liar it doesn't make him look any better.
I like Cruz, but IMO Kasich is probably the best qualified and would probably be a better bipartisan candidate. He actually has a proven record to be proud of.
He isn't stable whatsoever, and would not hesitate to go to war just to show everyone who's boss....but, he wouldn't have the power to do so. He would be crippled in Washington to tell you the truth which kinda defeats what his supporters/voters are trying to achieve by backing him and hoping he will create some kind of miracle with the crippled government we now have. His party really isn't going to support him, and we know the DEMS won't. The Washington machine will eat him alive.
2quills
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The fear that people have about him going to war or nuking Denmark (that would suck for them) is arguably what would help keep our adversaries in check.
Because you know they have to be sitting back saying the same thing. That crazy sob just might do it. Maybe we should back off lol.
But yeah, Trump gets elected then Dems flock to the booth and take back congress and we're right back where we are now. Gridlocked and nothing ever gets done. That's what would happen.
Because you know they have to be sitting back saying the same thing. That crazy sob just might do it. Maybe we should back off lol.
But yeah, Trump gets elected then Dems flock to the booth and take back congress and we're right back where we are now. Gridlocked and nothing ever gets done. That's what would happen.
2quills
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What we have now is a international source of ridicule as well. I don't think it's unreasonable to consider someone who's willing to take more decisive action against the terrorists. I wouldn't underestimate them.
Obama has down played the threat as well and look at how it's grown. Iran, is already thumbing it's nose at us after lifting sanctions, north Korea launching missles and nuclear tests, China's cyber attacks on U.S. military and private business continue to happen, Russia, doing the same.
So yeah, I want to see someone with a backbone who's going to rebuild our military and remind the world that we are still a force to be reconned with.
darthtang aw
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How can anyone take a candidate serious that threats to sue people on a regular basis? A candidate that claims to know people, the best people, but never names them. Trumps campaign has been a lot of nothing. Yet people are falling for it. Why? Sorry, if it is trump and Hilary. I am voting Hilary. And that is a big statement coming from me. Trump and sanders? I am voting for the socialist.
darthtang aw
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I normally don't care who people vote for. It is their personal choice. But this year I am disowning friends and family if they vote for that overgrown cancer cyst called Trump. And I am starting a petition for Obama to get a third term. People think it is bad now? Just wait till a billionaire that had a silver spoon to begin with and abused the system to get richer at the cost of the average worker gets elected.
People are so stupid.
People are so stupid.
2quills
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Surely, you wouldn't pick Hillary over Trump if that is one of your biggest concerns.
Sanders, sure. But, Hillary?
At least The Donald is funding his own campaign.
Hillary takes big dollars from the health insurance industry, big pharma and wall street. The same folks she claims are the enemy.
darthtang aw
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You would rather sanders over Hilary? Seriously? Atleast Hillary doesn't completely live in a fantasy world. Can't believe I just stood up for that liar.
Concerning trump. What do we really know about his claimed policies? He will build a wal and make Mexico pay for it? Seriously? Think about that? That is like getting your neighbor to pay for you home security detail or system. Is not happening. So where does the funding for this wall Come from? Sure as hell won't be Mexico.
How will he handle isis and local terrorism which is growing tougher to track? Oh yeah. The wall and no illegal immigrants. The last few terrorists were legal immigrants or citizens. Think about that. Really think about it.
Sure he is funding his own campaign. Why? Because by doing so he is beholden to nobody. Including the American people.
He rails against the very tax loopholes he proudly claims to have used to his benefits. He uses the system to his benefit for decades. Anyone that files bankruptcy three times and still is a billionaire is no better than those bankers that were bailed out and given bonuses. IT IS THE SAME DAMN THING!! He skipped out on his bills THREE TIMES. Not once. Not twice, but three times and you think he is qualified to handle a national budget and make wise financial decisions for the country. He FAILED with his own finances THREE times. How many people do you know that filled bankruptcy three times?
He gave a speech back in the 80's spewing the same lame crap he is now. He has changed parties and political views numerous times. What is to stop him from changing his mind again. He has no values other than making himself richer and more famous.
So yes, the socialist and the battered woman I will vote for over him. Atleast I KNOW what I am getting and what to expect. I may not like it, but it is reliable and fairly consistent and predictable. He is the worst candidate I have ever seen. No substance.
I challenge you to state his position on various political topics and how he can bring about what he wants to do. He even has made promises to do crap that constitutionally he can not do. So I will be waiting for the response. This should be good. I have yet to have a trump supporter explain the how to part for me.
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2quills
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Once again, im not a major supporter but since you twisted my arm...
Darth, do you even understand what happened in those "bankruptcy" situations? It's called restructuring. And the laws are available to any and every citizen or small business.
Trump, was able to restructure terms which kept the businesses running. Which means they didn't close the doors, lay everyone off and bail on the debt.
Quite the contrary. He kept the doors open, ultimately satisfied his debts and held on to control of the companies. No tax payers were harmed. And actually it was 4 times.
Isis? We already know he wants to go after the oil to cut off their funding while decimating them military. Probably not hard to figure out how he can do that. With or without congress.
Building a wall? You telling me we can build thousands upon thousands of miles of interstate highway but we can build a really long wall? Sure we could.
How to get Mexico to pay for it? By rounding up Mexican nationals who are here illegally and using them to build it. Thier wages would be heavily taxed to pay for the wall and to pay a fine. If they satisfy certain terms then they can apply for their green card.
Actually, at Mexicos current rate with more and more of our jobs relocating over there. It's actually becoming a more attractive place for them to stay.