Squidd.......Teach me.....DYI:Plumbing 101 on a SW Tank
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leona
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When you say 2" inlet pump for a 1 1/2" bulkhead. Does that mean that the hole has to be drilled 2" to be able to fit a 1 1/2" bulkhead in it?
Also, what about just adding 1 additional hole for the C/L instead of one at 2". We could split it for 2 wholes. If I'm saying this next part right. You can correct me if I'm not. 2 holes drilled at 2 1/2" for a 1 1/2" bulkhead? I think someone else mentioned this. Would this work?
Because of cost I don't want to use a 2" bulkhead if I don't need to. It's not a large increase in price but it's still an increase. .BUDGET.....
Next I need the holes and bulkheads described to me. Basically what does each hole do. Will it need a bulkhead. I'm sure it would be easier if I could find a picture but I'm having no luck on a search. This will make my understanding alot easier.
Dilled hole?=Will fit a Bulkhead of ?
Placement of Holes
What will there function be. I know that probably sounds stupid. But again, I'm new to all of this and I don't understand it the way others prob do.
If it makes it easier to explain it as if you were going to explain it to a 5 year old it's ok. I don't mind. You see I'm more of a hands on learner. I don't read books because I get bored easily of them. I'd rather watch the movie. Now if I was hands on learning this. All you would have to do is show me the finish product and explain in the aquarist terms and I'm be good to go.
Thanks for understanding.
Leona
Also, what about just adding 1 additional hole for the C/L instead of one at 2". We could split it for 2 wholes. If I'm saying this next part right. You can correct me if I'm not. 2 holes drilled at 2 1/2" for a 1 1/2" bulkhead? I think someone else mentioned this. Would this work?
Because of cost I don't want to use a 2" bulkhead if I don't need to. It's not a large increase in price but it's still an increase. .BUDGET.....
Next I need the holes and bulkheads described to me. Basically what does each hole do. Will it need a bulkhead. I'm sure it would be easier if I could find a picture but I'm having no luck on a search. This will make my understanding alot easier.
Dilled hole?=Will fit a Bulkhead of ?
Placement of Holes
What will there function be. I know that probably sounds stupid. But again, I'm new to all of this and I don't understand it the way others prob do.
If it makes it easier to explain it as if you were going to explain it to a 5 year old it's ok. I don't mind. You see I'm more of a hands on learner. I don't read books because I get bored easily of them. I'd rather watch the movie. Now if I was hands on learning this. All you would have to do is show me the finish product and explain in the aquarist terms and I'm be good to go.
Thanks for understanding.
Leona
squidd
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Originally posted by Leona
Here is a quick picture I drew up to help me understand what hole is what.
:notsure: For "some" reason your picture looks a lot "different" than mine...
Let's try this again....
Back...
A. 2 3/8" hole For 1 1/2" Bulkhead ... Intake of C/L system (with or without O/M 4-way) 8" from top, centered between "overflows"
B. 1 3/4" hole for 1" bulkhead ...Return from C/L (2 places) 8" up from bottom and 8" in from overflows...
squidd
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Top view....
C. 1 1/2" holes only (no bulkheads) for return from C/L system (2)
located in top front corners of tank, centered in Euro Bracing...
D. Overflows holes/bulkheads standpipe(s) and sump return(s) sized by Tom to flow 600 gph each...located rear corners of tank...
I say "sized by Tom" because he may want to go 2x 1"(standpipe and return) or 1x 1" standpipe) and 1x 3/4" (return)...either will work and he may have "preferences"..
This should be all you need for him to build the tank...
C. 1 1/2" holes only (no bulkheads) for return from C/L system (2)
located in top front corners of tank, centered in Euro Bracing...
D. Overflows holes/bulkheads standpipe(s) and sump return(s) sized by Tom to flow 600 gph each...located rear corners of tank...
I say "sized by Tom" because he may want to go 2x 1"(standpipe and return) or 1x 1" standpipe) and 1x 3/4" (return)...either will work and he may have "preferences"..
This should be all you need for him to build the tank...
squidd
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Yep...5 for the Closed Loop and 4 for the two overflows...
If your looking at a "cost per hole"...the 4 for the overflows should be "included" with the price of the overflow (you would have gotten them "anyway") and only the 5 for the closed loop are "extras"...
And only 3 of those need "bulkheads"...
If your looking at a "cost per hole"...the 4 for the overflows should be "included" with the price of the overflow (you would have gotten them "anyway") and only the 5 for the closed loop are "extras"...
And only 3 of those need "bulkheads"...
squidd
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Kind of a "useless" overflow if it doesn't have a "hole" in it...don't you think...
Actually though, "if" he is not including them and will be charging "extra" let me know... because I have an "alternative" plan for the oveflows and return line...
Here additional hole "E." is 1 1/2"... located in top of Euro Bracing,2 1/2" left of center, no bulkhead, for OTT return pipe...
Now you only need 1 hole each overflow, 1 3/4" for 1" stand pipe (location "D.")
So now your total is...
(1) 2 3/8" hole with 1 1/2' bulkhead...(A.)
(4) 1 3/4" holes with (4) 1" bulkheads (B. and D.)
(3) 1 1/2" holes , No bulkheads ......(C. and E.)
Got it...??
Actually though, "if" he is not including them and will be charging "extra" let me know... because I have an "alternative" plan for the oveflows and return line...
Here additional hole "E." is 1 1/2"... located in top of Euro Bracing,2 1/2" left of center, no bulkhead, for OTT return pipe...
Now you only need 1 hole each overflow, 1 3/4" for 1" stand pipe (location "D.")
So now your total is...
(1) 2 3/8" hole with 1 1/2' bulkhead...(A.)
(4) 1 3/4" holes with (4) 1" bulkheads (B. and D.)
(3) 1 1/2" holes , No bulkheads ......(C. and E.)
Got it...??
leona
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what are the pro's and con's to each plan. Because there is only a 10.00 difference between Plan A or Plan B.
Plan A :
9 holes drilled
2 overflows
3 bulkheads
For Plan B.
Is that 5 bulkheads?
If So..........
8 holes drilled
2 overflows
5 bulkheads
Plan B is 10.00 more.
So it really doesn't matter what Tom says. I asked someone else that has ordered from him. Yes you are charged extra for the OF holes.
Leona
Plan A :
9 holes drilled
2 overflows
3 bulkheads
For Plan B.
Is that 5 bulkheads?
If So..........
8 holes drilled
2 overflows
5 bulkheads
Plan B is 10.00 more.
So it really doesn't matter what Tom says. I asked someone else that has ordered from him. Yes you are charged extra for the OF holes.
Leona
acrylic51
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Originally posted by Squidd
Top view....
C. 1 1/2" holes only (no bulkheads) for return from C/L system (2)
located in top front corners of tank, centered in Euro Bracing...
D. Overflows holes/bulkheads standpipe(s) and sump return(s) sized by Tom to flow 600 gph each...located rear corners of tank...
I say "sized by Tom" because he may want to go 2x 1"(standpipe and return) or 1x 1" standpipe) and 1x 3/4" (return)...either will work and he may have "preferences"..
This should be all you need for him to build the tank...
The holes drilled in the front corners of the euro bracing of the tank won't happen... They will have to be offset on way or the other. That is where the joints or seams are located at in the euro bracing....
acrylic51
Active Member
Yeah that's correct.... Tom charges a flat fee just to build the overflow box and then any... ANY hole that is drilled is chargeable...... So in each overflow box you have 2 holes so if each overflow box your looking at $40.00 so $80.00 for both overflows.... and count the rest of the holes
acrylic51
Active Member
Originally posted by Squidd
Kind of a "useless" overflow if it doesn't have a "hole" in it...don't you think...
Actually though, "if" he is not including them and will be charging "extra" let me know... because I have an "alternative" plan for the oveflows and return line...
Here additional hole "E." is 1 1/2"... located in top of Euro Bracing,2 1/2" left of center, no bulkhead, for OTT return pipe...
Now you only need 1 hole each overflow, 1 3/4" for 1" stand pipe (location "D.")
So now your total is...
(1) 2 3/8" hole with 1 1/2' bulkhead...(A.)
(4) 1 3/4" holes with (4) 1" bulkheads (B. and D.)
(3) 1 1/2" holes , No bulkheads ......(C. and E.)
Got it...??
Sorry Squidd no additional money saved actually this option will cost her more money. Everytime he drills a hole it's costing you $20.00
acrylic51
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Leona... I would actually sit down and fax Tom and get a few questions answered... My first question is that I see a problem with your overflow boxes and the euro bracing...... Depending on the width (front to back) you might have a heck of a time getting down into the overflow box itself let alone getting a stand pipe in there and if you have your return line coming back up through you have to deal with what are you going to use to get water up and over the overflow box as well.....
The size of the euro bracing I don't remember off the top of my head, but will have to look at the standards he uses for euro bracing....
The size of the euro bracing I don't remember off the top of my head, but will have to look at the standards he uses for euro bracing....
leona
Member
As far as my arm or hand reaching down the OF. Let's just say I'm very petite and my arm and wrist should be able to fit in tight spots. I chose the OF in the corner because of space and placement of LR. But that was also when I was getting a 90g and not a 120g. Tom, now only wants me to call him and not email him. Which is understandable. If I'm going to make the delivery I need to order the tank soon. But I don't want to Call him until I can talk to him about the tank without making myself look stupid. I want to understand the tank before I get the tank. If that makes any sense. Thanks EVERYONE.
Acrylic51 do you have any pictures of the tank Tom built for you?
Leona
Acrylic51 do you have any pictures of the tank Tom built for you?
Leona
acrylic51
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Sorry Leona I thought I had told you that daughter took camera to school and I caught her and was bringing it home and it feel on the bus destroying the front of the camera 5 months old.... I was waiting Monday to send you pics of tank, stand and progress in the new fish room....
acrylic51
Active Member
Originally posted by Leona
As far as my arm or hand reaching down the OF. Let's just say I'm very petite and my arm and wrist should be able to fit in tight spots. I chose the OF in the corner because of space and placement of LR. But that was also when I was getting a 90g and not a 120g. Tom, now only wants me to call him and not email him. Which is understandable. If I'm going to make the delivery I need to order the tank soon. But I don't want to Call him until I can talk to him about the tank without making myself look stupid. I want to understand the tank before I get the tank. If that makes any sense. Thanks EVERYONE.
Acrylic51 do you have any pictures of the tank Tom built for you?
Leona
I'm not referring in anyways to to being petite, but I'm saying at times even the smallest of us have a hard time getting into things. I'm a mechanic and I'm on the small side and I have to get my hands into some tight places and only using that as a reference, and expecially if you have to fish a fishy out of there
Are you going with the 90 or 120????? I"M SO LOST!!!!!!