Squidd.......Teach me.....DYI:Plumbing 101 on a SW Tank

squidd

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Euro Reef NOW...don't waste your time and money on a cheaper one and then "Upgrade" later...(waste of money), if your going to do it anyway, AND a GOOD skimmer is a BIG part of a "successful" sysytem.)
The ES5-3 would be great on the 55 with the large sump and larger Fuge..(need to concider "Total water Volume of system)...and "reasonably" priced compared to the CS series...
 
leona

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Squidd:
How Mad would you be with me if I say..............:eek: .
Let's change all this to a 90G Tank?
My husband has just given me the OK...................YEAH....for me. I'm sorry.
 
squidd

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So...What kind of tank you getting...??
I suggest a "Reef Ready" predrilled tank with built in overflow(s)...:yes:
Gonna make lot's of things easier...
Then check into "custom ordering" it Drilled in the back for the Closed Loop system...:yes: 3 to 5 holes....
Or see if they can suggest someone near you that can drill the back for you....
If that's a possiblty, we can work out the layout..
 
leona

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I'm going to order the tank,stand,canopy from glasscages and pick it up in MD hopefully.
The measurments are as follows.
Stand: 48x18x24
Canopy: 48x18
Tank: 48x18x25
 
leona

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really, how do I tell them how and were to do that? Do you know how much more that will cost? I emailed them.
Leona
 
leona

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I found out how much. But I need to know 3, 4, 5 wholes? Were should they go? Is there a certain size overflow or is the standard what I want?
Leona
 
leona

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I suggest a "Reef Ready" predrilled tank with built in overflow(s)...:yes:
what are we talking 2? One on each end?
:thinking:
 
squidd

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OK, now that you've narrowed it down a bit....( from a bazillion down to a couple hundred million options) :D Let's ee if we can "refine" this further (till you "jump ship" on me again...:rolleyes: )
"Goal Flow" we (you) decided is going to be around 30X...in a 90...so around 2700 gph...
And your talking about a Euro Reef skimmer, we want to "feed" that about 500 gph and a large fuge..we want to "feed" that about 7-10 X fuge volume, which is 1/3 to 1/2 tank size, so....
The 29 will work and the 55 would be better for the fuge...we want to "dedicate" around 300-500 to the fuge and balance the rest to the sump...
So we're looking at around 1000-1200 gph "to/from" tank and the other 1500-1700 (up to 2000) from a closed loop...Follow me here...?
A "pair" of 1" overflows will do that or "one" 1 1/2" overflow will do that...
So, as the ball bounces back to your court...depending on your "intended" layout for rockscape and/or the positioning of the tank (in wall, on stand, 3 sided penincula, or against wall)
Do you want one or two overflows (one in center, two in corners, or one in corner) ...??
 
squidd

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This is a major "layout decision" and will affect the location of the returns both from sump and closed loop, but we have more options with those than the overflow..
So, being a large bulky object, place it in an "inconspicous" spot(s) that can be hidden with rock scape or up against a wall...
 
steveoutla

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Leona - I have the same problem with my wife that you have with your hubby. I think I've convinced her to let me get a 120g this summer. Anyway, if you don't mind my asking.....what did that 90g cost you from glass cages?:notsure:
 
leona

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Squidd you lost me on your second paragraph? It's still early and my brain is not with me yet. Are we talking about were is the tank going to be or are we talking about were the overflows will go?
What would be the benefits of 2 overflows one on each side of the tank, or 1 in the middle or just one in the corner?
Well as much as I would like to have my new tank in the wall. I don't think my daughter (other side of the wall is her closet) would appreciate that much. Plus I live in a Mobile Home so space is limited. But,
I get to redecorate the living room and rearange that's how I convinced him that a bigger tank would much better for us and the fish& he saids it winter time and he's not going to want to do this himself in the cold. Plus the total price for the tank was and 2 overflows and assuming 5 wholes drilled was 645.00 now if I could just convince him to get the MH lighting at the same time too. I could try as he would say "empty promises". That's a whole new thread on a different board:D
As for the 55 turning into a fuge................Sorry that's a NO NO. I don't really like the idea of the fuge itself next to the tank I personally think it's not very pretty. So I'm going to look into buy a cabinet or something to inclose the 29G for the fuge that will sit next to the 90 and inbetween my new recycliner. The tank will be against a wall. Before we put the tank there we will be cutting a piece of carpet out to keep it from wobbling. That's the one prob we have here (mobile home). When the kids run through the house or anything like that the tanks shakes a bit. So we WILL be fixing that prob before the 90 goes in. The 90 will be empty for awhile. I was in the mist of buying new LR but now that's he's buying our new tank setup. I can't ask him this month. But..........
since if we are able to pick up the on the 29th of Jan. In a few days it's Feb. :happy: But,
It's my daughters 13th birthday and it's a biggy. So there will go alot of extra cash. So anyway did I answer all the questions.
Steveoutl: You can email me for the website if you need it. LeonasAngels@comcast.net
 
leona

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YGM?
I don't think it would fit the measurments for the new stand are 48x18x24. That wouldn't leave very much working with room in the fuge if it needed work would it?
Leona
 
squidd

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As the overflow chamber(s) will take up a bit of space in your new tank, having them in a place that YOU will be comfortable with long term, seems important to me...especially if your getting a "custom tank" built..or are you just getting a "stock" tank off the shelf, with a few extra holes drilled in it...?
Flow wise there is NO advantage to either setup, because we can place the return and C/L outlets to take best advantage of whatever placement you come up with...
If it were me, I'd go with one larger (1 1/2") overflow in the corner,and the return in the other corner (1")... but it's going to influence how you "stack your rocks" to fit around it...
One in the center with returns on both sides or two overflows in the corners with return in the center...are also workable...
Does glass cages have a "stock" setup, you could also go with that and we can work "around" it once you get the tank...
End of January seems like an awful short "lead time" for them to build a "custom"...can they make that schedual..??
 
squidd

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The 29 as a Fuge, with another 20 beside it for the Sump is workable and will fit in the stand...
 
leona

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Not sure they have a show in Baltimore MD I sent them an email. I'm waiting to get a reply. As for a stocked? I don't know what that is or how to ask them.
I was already leaning towards the corners overflows before you mentioned it. It seems like the middle could take up some room for LR. I will work around the overflows with the LR. Don't worry about that. I just want the best set up that can be for the wet friends with not looking at alot of other stuff in the tank. I think I just answered your question after talking it over in my head.
Yes i would rather have the overflows in the corners.
How should I explain that to glasscages? Were I want everything?
Also it's ok if I can't get the tank at the end of the month I will still order it. But I was going to try and save on Shipping. Do you know were they are located?
Leona
 
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