State of the Union Address...What you think?

reefraff

Active Member
I watched some reruns. I would love to see W come out and call this lying sack of syphilitic shivering snake sh... well you know, on some of this nonsense. For the leader of the administration who declined to prosecute the panther thugs intimidating voters to even insinuate another was lax on civil rights prosecutions

I also noticed the court didn't appreciate his comments directed at them, the 4 who voted against the ruling he called them out on didn't even crack a smile I could see.
I think it is military protocol not to react to any elements of the speech but I may be wrong on that.
 

browniebuck

Active Member
I watched bits and pieces of it...it was too much like a Catholic church service, too many "up/downs" for me. Is there a person somewhere in the room that holds up the, stand up and cheer sign so that all of the idiots in the room know when to stand up and applaud?
Seriously though...President Obama said that he would fix this, and he would fix that...I'll give this money and I'll give that money. Where does he think that this money will come from? Does he think that we are naive enough to believe that there won't be all sorts of new taxes to help pay for all of the changin' and fixin' that he wants to do? $10,000 a year for 4 years to go to college...GREAT, but where will that money come from? This will cost BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of dollars to make happen!
I also liked how he scolded Republicans and Democrats and told them to more or less "play nice" and then took every attempt to throw the Supreme Court, the Republicans, and Congress as a whole under the bus....lead by example, buddy!!!
The state of the union could have been summed up with this statement...."My fellow Americans...we are in deep doo doo!"
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Our place as the world leader in space is over. Now NASA will be keeping an eye on globle warming.

Pretty disguisted with that.
Its going to be a hard smack in the face when some other country gets to MARS before we do. Or even starts setting up bases on the moon.
 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
Originally Posted by lovethesea
http:///forum/post/3218257
so....I have a question regarding this speech. I know the big thing is the standing ovation for everything but clearing your throat (usually) I think Nancy had a spring in her rear tonight.....brown nosing imo. You stand if you likey and you sit still if you dont. (or you are just tired from jumping up every 30 seconds because of cheerleader Nancy) BUT, when Obama talked about gays in the military........the military representation DID NOT STAND UP and applaud. %%
Dennis Miller said she looked like a scary "Jack In The Box",but I think she looked more like a Seal at Sea World waiting for a piece of mackerel.To bad no one had a beach ball out on the floor,the could have tossed up there and she could have balanced it on her nose.
 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
This President is in a state of perpetual campaign mode.My stomach actually turned quite a few times last night listening to the speech.First his false attempts at vocal agony/concern for America where horrible...he wont be getting a call from the academy but maybe a Nobel Acting Prize.
When I listened to him repeated his famous "Im going to go through the budget line by line and cut out......" Or listen to him utter the words"Transparency or Inherited" i wanted to push the TV out the window.
The SOTU made me dislike him even more,and i didnt think that was possible.I see him a condescending and arrogant narcissist,not to mention he is full of crap.
He should have just walked up to the podium and said"I Haven't fulfilled any of my campaign promised yet,but I plan on it soon,right after I fundamentally change our form of government."
 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
Originally Posted by Beth
http:///forum/post/3218316
Our place as the world leader in space is over. Now NASA will be keeping an eye on globle warming.

Pretty disguisted with that.
Its going to be a hard smack in the face when some other country gets to MARS before we do. Or even starts setting up bases on the moon.
I hope this dosent happen Beth.Hopefully after our economic downturn changes direction and we have some leaders in office,we will resume our place as the worlds leading space explorers and innovators.
 

t316

Active Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/3218334
Dennis Miller said she looked like a scary "Jack In The Box",but I think she looked more like a Seal at Sea World waiting for a piece of mackerel.To bad no one had a beach ball out on the floor,the could have tossed up there and she could have balanced it on her nose.

She does kinda look like a seal begging for a snack...

 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/3218340
This President is in a state of perpetual campaign mode.My stomach actually turned quite a few times last night listening to the speech.First his false attempts at vocal agony/concern for America where horrible...he wont be getting a call from the academy but maybe a Nobel Acting Prize.
When I listened to him repeated his famous "Im going to go through the budget line by line and cut out......" Or listen to him utter the words"Transparency or Inherited" i wanted to push the TV out the window.
The SOTU made me dislike him even more,and i didnt think that was possible.I see him a condescending and arrogant narcissist,not to mention he is full of crap.
He should have just walked up to the podium and said"I Haven't fulfilled any of my campaign promised yet,but I plan on it soon,right after I fundamentally change our form of government."
Here are a few more barf phrases I thought of that he uttered ,im paraphrasing here "I will have no lobbyist in my administration","No more Earmarks",and hes still clinging to Obamacare even after the people have spoken .

I will give him some props though if he does follow through with the Spending Freezes, BUT! He is going to have to expand on them significantly,not just a few token stopgaps.Im talking Freeze Spending on everything that is not essential and lets put a real dent in the deficit.
 

browniebuck

Active Member
If I remember correctly, he said that there was going to be a spending freeze, then later said that the spending freeze would begin NEXT year...just in time for him to begin planning his re-election campaign.
Why is it that politicians can get away with saying that they are going to do something and not be held accountable when they DON'T do what they said that they were going to do? If I were to tell my principal that I was going to do something in my class and didn't do it, something tells me that he wouldn't continue to renew my contract. BUT...when it is the American people that are being lied to, we just continue to allow politicians to get re-elected without holding them accountable.
 

braydonosu

Member
I like to stick as close to the middle as possible when it comes to politics (although I am a registered rebublican), but last night was pretty bad. It seemed like The Prez went out of his way to play the blame game - his campaign centered around change we can believe in, but it's still the same old Washington - Blame the last guy. The best part for me was the last time he talked about the inherited budget deficit, the cameras zoomed over to McCain and you could read his lips "Blame Bush." The entire speech last night consisted of blaming the previous administration, throwing republicans, media, sup court... under the bus, and a whole lotta campaigning to get the dems back on his side.
I did like how he challenged anyone to present him a better option for healthcare reform. I think we all agree that something needs to be done, just not everything that the congress is proposing.
To me, the worst thing The Prez did was call out the media talking heads for stating talking points and skewed info rather than the facts, then he turned around and told the Republicans to not be the "Party of NO".
 

beaslbob

Well-Known Member
IMHO still trying to get things (like health care) done.
Nothing will change until the republicans control both houses of congress.
next election.
 

bionicarm

Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3218264
This is what I think in one word. BOHICA...
Na but seriously what a pompous ass. Calling out the supreme court, and telling them they they are wrong to their faces. When it was his dumb moron that in oral arguments said they have the right to sensor tv along with books, periodicals and any other form of medium.
I did enjoy watching the joint chiefs sit on their butts while obama was saying, "I don't care what you think, I'm right, you're wrong, now deal with it."
So do you agree with the Supreme Courts decision to allow corporations a wide open berth when it comes to donations for political campaigns? I saw where SCJ Alito almost pulled what that Republican Congressman did the last Obama speech --
"Alito made a dismissive face, shook his head repeatedly and appeared to mouth the words "not true" or possibly "simply not true" when Obama assailed the decision Wednesday night in his State of the Union address."
He'd been better off standing up and yelling "You Lied again!"
 

darthtang aw

Active Member
It is because of this spirit, this great decency and great strength that I have never been more hopeful about America's future than I am tonight. Despite our hardships, our union is strong. We do not give up. We do not quit. We do not allow fear or division to break our spirit. In this new decade, it's time the American people get a government that matches their decency, that embodies their strength.
Except for with Iraq and Afghanistan...the american people want to quit....Other than that I mean.
And tonight, I'd like to talk about how together, we can deliver on that promise.
As long as you do what I want and say....
Our most urgent task upon taking office was to shore up the same banks that helped cause this crisis. It was not easy to do. And if there's one thing that has unified Democrats and Republicans, it's that we all hated the bank bailout. I hated it. You hated it. It was about as popular as a root canal.
Yet I still voted for it and signed the bill....because I really don't care what the people want...
So I supported the last administration's efforts to create the financial rescue program. And when we took the program over, we made it more transparent and accountable. As a result, the markets are now stabilized, and we have recovered most of the money we spent on the banks.
Well sort of transparent, it is more like looking through tinted windows of a limo...you can see something going on but not sure what.
To recover the rest, I have proposed a fee on the biggest banks. I know Wall Street isn't keen on this idea, but if these firms can afford to hand out big bonuses again, they can afford a modest fee to pay back the taxpayers who rescued them in their time of need.
Basically I am going to risk your stock and 401K again in an attempt to get more money for our bloated government...But this is not a tax hike.....more like an increase of interest rates on a loan.
Because of the steps we took, there are about 2 million Americans working right now who would otherwise be unemployed -- 200,000 work in construction and clean energy, 300,000 are teachers and other education workers, tens of thousands are cops, firefighters, correctional officers and first responders. And we are on track to add another one-and-a-half-million jobs to this total by the end of the year.
That only cost us 225,000 per job. How is that for efficiency....at this rate I can get us back to full employment for a meer 6,750,000,000,000. 75% which will be government jobs as were the ones created with the previous bill...but relax, that still leaves 25% for the private sector....small businesses will be able to generate some jobs.Don't worry about the deficit spending, I was only kidding when I complained about it before...
There are stories like this all across America. And after two years of recession, the economy is growing again. Retirement funds have started to gain back some of their value. Businesses are beginning to invest again, and slowly some are starting to hire again.
Except walmart corporation and such. Oh and forget that each month we had a net loss in jobs...That means nothing...Just because Sam's club is laying off 10% of their work force that means nothing...those corporations and businesses are growing....take my word for it.
Now, the true engine of job creation in this country will always be America's businesses. But government can create the conditions necessary for businesses to expand and hire more workers.
We should start where most new jobs do -- in small businesses, companies that begin when an entrepreneur takes a chance on a dream or a worker decides it's time she became her own boss.
With that being true, in my infinite wisdom we started at the government sector with the first stimulus package...the next one will be for the small business sector....since they are more important. I promise.
Continued.............
 
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