2quills
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Originally Posted by grant778 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529457
I'm rather new to all this, and I am curious to know the reason for decreasing the salinity when u acclimated the fish?
It's a method used for destroying parasites that effect marine fish. It's a treatment but in this case I think it's intended use is as a preventative.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/a/hyposalinity
Originally Posted by grant778 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529457
I'm rather new to all this, and I am curious to know the reason for decreasing the salinity when u acclimated the fish?
It's a method used for destroying parasites that effect marine fish. It's a treatment but in this case I think it's intended use is as a preventative.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/a/hyposalinity
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eric b 125
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529451
Nice fish!
If you haven't already started hypo then maybe you can wait a little while longer. No sense stressing them any more right now if you're trying to get the one too eat. Although I have to admit I have no idea how much hypo really stresses a fish.
I've already begun hypo. I'm going to take three days, rather than just two, to bring the SG down. From what I understand, if you bring the SG down gradually then there should be no additional stress to the fish.
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Originally Posted by grant778 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529457
I'm rather new to all this, and I am curious to know the reason for decreasing the salinity when u acclimated the fish?
I am bringing the salinity down in quarantine as a prophylactic treatment for ich. Since tangs are so prone to having outbreaks, and because I planned on QT'ing them for a month anyways, I figured it would be a good idea.
Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529451
Nice fish!
If you haven't already started hypo then maybe you can wait a little while longer. No sense stressing them any more right now if you're trying to get the one too eat. Although I have to admit I have no idea how much hypo really stresses a fish.
I've already begun hypo. I'm going to take three days, rather than just two, to bring the SG down. From what I understand, if you bring the SG down gradually then there should be no additional stress to the fish.
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Originally Posted by grant778 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529457
I'm rather new to all this, and I am curious to know the reason for decreasing the salinity when u acclimated the fish?
I am bringing the salinity down in quarantine as a prophylactic treatment for ich. Since tangs are so prone to having outbreaks, and because I planned on QT'ing them for a month anyways, I figured it would be a good idea.
2quills
Well-Known Member
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Originally Posted by Eric B 125 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529473
I am bringing the salinity down in quarantine as a prophylactic treatment for ich. Since tangs are so prone to having outbreaks, and because I planned on QT'ing them for a month anyways, I figured it would be a good idea.
I actually did the same thing when I got my powder brown. We move right after I first picked up the 120g and I wanted to hypo all of my fish after a bad ich outbreak when I bought the used system and brought it home and set it up. The two tangs had it first and had it the worst. Lost a yellow and hippo tang during my first go at treatment (reef safe stuff in a bottle). So I treated all remaining fish in hypo when we got to the new place and purchased the powder brown and left all fish in hypo for 2 months before finaly setting up something a little more permanent. Can honestly say I never saw Ich rear it's ugly head again after that. It either worked or I got lucky, not sure which.
Originally Posted by Eric B 125 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529473
I am bringing the salinity down in quarantine as a prophylactic treatment for ich. Since tangs are so prone to having outbreaks, and because I planned on QT'ing them for a month anyways, I figured it would be a good idea.
I actually did the same thing when I got my powder brown. We move right after I first picked up the 120g and I wanted to hypo all of my fish after a bad ich outbreak when I bought the used system and brought it home and set it up. The two tangs had it first and had it the worst. Lost a yellow and hippo tang during my first go at treatment (reef safe stuff in a bottle). So I treated all remaining fish in hypo when we got to the new place and purchased the powder brown and left all fish in hypo for 2 months before finaly setting up something a little more permanent. Can honestly say I never saw Ich rear it's ugly head again after that. It either worked or I got lucky, not sure which.
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eric b 125
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I did hypo once before. It was pointless, though, because I ended up adding new fish right to the DT once the hypo was done. Every now and then I would see a spot or two on my hippo tang but they would go away. I strongly believe that you can have ich in a system with healthy fish and not have any problems. I just would rather take the safe road which is why I bleached all my rock and started from scratch. I had aiptasia before and I'm certainly not trying to re-start my tank with a problem.
Question: I have a Koralia 4 in the 30B QT. I took the nose cone off to disperse the flow a bit but it's still a pretty strong current. I realize that these fish have to deal with serious flow in the ocean, but in the wild they can also escape the flow in the reef. I was thinking about turning off the powerhead at night and just run my HOB skimmer. I figure the skimmer, while it's not skimming b/c of the lower salinity, is still aerating the water. Think this is a good idea?
Question: I have a Koralia 4 in the 30B QT. I took the nose cone off to disperse the flow a bit but it's still a pretty strong current. I realize that these fish have to deal with serious flow in the ocean, but in the wild they can also escape the flow in the reef. I was thinking about turning off the powerhead at night and just run my HOB skimmer. I figure the skimmer, while it's not skimming b/c of the lower salinity, is still aerating the water. Think this is a good idea?
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eric b 125
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Between the algae sheets and 1mm Spectrum pellets all the fish seem to be eating. One of them doesn't pay much attention to the algae clip, but it's stomach isn't as thin as it was yesterday (assuming that's the same fish) and hopefully the other two fish will show it how to eat the sheets. It's not being picked on, so it's not that.
sweatervest13
Active Member
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Originally Posted by Eric B 125 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529476
I did hypo once before. It was pointless, though, because I ended up adding new fish right to the DT once the hypo was done. Every now and then I would see a spot or two on my hippo tang but they would go away. I strongly believe that you can have ich in a system with healthy fish and not have any problems. I just would rather take the safe road which is why I bleached all my rock and started from scratch. I had aiptasia before and I'm certainly not trying to re-start my tank with a problem.
Question: I have a Koralia 4 in the 30B QT. I took the nose cone off to disperse the flow a bit but it's still a pretty strong current. I realize that these fish have to deal with serious flow in the ocean, but in the wild they can also escape the flow in the reef. I was thinking about turning off the powerhead at night and just run my HOB skimmer. I figure the skimmer, while it's not skimming b/c of the lower salinity, is still aerating the water. Think this is a good idea?
The skimmer will still provide some flow and aeration. But IDK about shutting off the powerhead for too long. Maybe like 6-8 hrs. I would not do 12 hrs with the PH off. Maybe you could put some more PVC pieces or coffee cups in there to shield them from the flow. That way you could leave the powerhead on 24/7. Just an idea.
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Between the algae sheets and 1mm Spectrum pellets all the fish seem to be eating. One of them doesn't pay much attention to the algae clip, but it's stomach isn't as thin as it was yesterday (assuming that's the same fish) and hopefully the other two fish will show it how to eat the sheets. It's not being picked on, so it's not that.
Great news!!! If they are eating pellets, that's a big step. My fish will eat most frozen like its pizza, but it takes them a bit to eat pellets. That is a win for you in my book!!
Do you have a variety of algae sheet flavors?? Maybe try a different color??
I recently added a Powder Brown to my QT... I waited a day to observe, but than I started to drop the salinity to hypo levels for prophylactic treatment. I took 5-6 days to bring it all the way down. Better safe then sorry with Tangs IMO.
Good luck dude!!! The 125g should look great with three YT's swimming around in there in a month or so.
Originally Posted by Eric B 125 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529476
I did hypo once before. It was pointless, though, because I ended up adding new fish right to the DT once the hypo was done. Every now and then I would see a spot or two on my hippo tang but they would go away. I strongly believe that you can have ich in a system with healthy fish and not have any problems. I just would rather take the safe road which is why I bleached all my rock and started from scratch. I had aiptasia before and I'm certainly not trying to re-start my tank with a problem.
Question: I have a Koralia 4 in the 30B QT. I took the nose cone off to disperse the flow a bit but it's still a pretty strong current. I realize that these fish have to deal with serious flow in the ocean, but in the wild they can also escape the flow in the reef. I was thinking about turning off the powerhead at night and just run my HOB skimmer. I figure the skimmer, while it's not skimming b/c of the lower salinity, is still aerating the water. Think this is a good idea?
The skimmer will still provide some flow and aeration. But IDK about shutting off the powerhead for too long. Maybe like 6-8 hrs. I would not do 12 hrs with the PH off. Maybe you could put some more PVC pieces or coffee cups in there to shield them from the flow. That way you could leave the powerhead on 24/7. Just an idea.
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Between the algae sheets and 1mm Spectrum pellets all the fish seem to be eating. One of them doesn't pay much attention to the algae clip, but it's stomach isn't as thin as it was yesterday (assuming that's the same fish) and hopefully the other two fish will show it how to eat the sheets. It's not being picked on, so it's not that.
Great news!!! If they are eating pellets, that's a big step. My fish will eat most frozen like its pizza, but it takes them a bit to eat pellets. That is a win for you in my book!!
Do you have a variety of algae sheet flavors?? Maybe try a different color??
I recently added a Powder Brown to my QT... I waited a day to observe, but than I started to drop the salinity to hypo levels for prophylactic treatment. I took 5-6 days to bring it all the way down. Better safe then sorry with Tangs IMO.
Good luck dude!!! The 125g should look great with three YT's swimming around in there in a month or so.
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eric b 125
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Thanks dude. I can't wait to see these guys swimming around the DT. I did leave the powerhead off for the night and the fish were fine. I should put something in there though, to provide them with a hiding place.
We're almost at hypo levels. It's at 1.012 now.
We're almost at hypo levels. It's at 1.012 now.
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eric b 125
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Originally Posted by grant778 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529532
How low of salinity can the fish survive in?
I don't know the answer to that. There's a lot of grey area in that question. How long does a fish have to be alive to be considered as surviving? Some fish can live in brackish water. The point of hypo is to take the salinity low enough to kill parasites but have no, or negligible, effect on the fish. Only fish can handle a proper hypo, inverts will die.
Originally Posted by grant778 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529532
How low of salinity can the fish survive in?
I don't know the answer to that. There's a lot of grey area in that question. How long does a fish have to be alive to be considered as surviving? Some fish can live in brackish water. The point of hypo is to take the salinity low enough to kill parasites but have no, or negligible, effect on the fish. Only fish can handle a proper hypo, inverts will die.
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eric b 125
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So I'm sitting here browsing the forums and watching the fish in QT. I put 1/3 of a sheet of algae on the clip and two of the YT's went right for it. The third YT, the one that isn't as filled out as the others, seems to be a little more timid than the others but once they get their fill he does pick at the sheet. I'm really happy to see it eating from the clip.
I put a 4" pvc tee in the tank yesterday but the fish are still a little weary of it. It's there if they need it I guess. I have noticed a few very minor squabbles b/w the fish. It's not like they go out of their way to instigate but every now and then they flex on one another. It's most noticeable around the algae clip and it's not directed at one specific fish nor is it one particular fish that's being aggressive. I'll continue to keep an eye on it.
I put a 4" pvc tee in the tank yesterday but the fish are still a little weary of it. It's there if they need it I guess. I have noticed a few very minor squabbles b/w the fish. It's not like they go out of their way to instigate but every now and then they flex on one another. It's most noticeable around the algae clip and it's not directed at one specific fish nor is it one particular fish that's being aggressive. I'll continue to keep an eye on it.
snakeblitz33
Well-Known Member
Sounds good man. You need to start posting more pictures of your yellow tang school. I'm excited to see one on these forums.
What are you doing to mature your tank before adding SPS corals? Just feeding the fish and regular maintenance?
What's your water change schedule look like at this time? Will it change when you start stocking your tank with SPS?
What are you doing to mature your tank before adding SPS corals? Just feeding the fish and regular maintenance?
What's your water change schedule look like at this time? Will it change when you start stocking your tank with SPS?
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eric b 125
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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529758
Sounds good man. You need to start posting more pictures of your yellow tang school. I'm excited to see one on these forums.
They aren't the easiest bunch to photograph. I had to stand off to the side of the tank to snap these two pics.
Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529758
Sounds good man. You need to start posting more pictures of your yellow tang school. I'm excited to see one on these forums.
They aren't the easiest bunch to photograph. I had to stand off to the side of the tank to snap these two pics.
sweatervest13
Active Member
They look good Eric!!! The QT system looks nice and clean. Plenty of room for a trio of YT's .
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eric b 125
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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529758
What are you doing to mature your tank before adding SPS corals? Just feeding the fish and regular maintenance?
What's your water change schedule look like at this time? Will it change when you start stocking your tank with SPS?
There's nothing I can do, really, to mature the DT; time takes time, lol. I ghost feed and in a few weeks there will be fish in it. I've done one water change so far and I'll do one more a few days before adding the fish. I plan on doing 30g water changes every 2 weeks. Between the DT and the sump there's probably about 150 of water so a 30g w/c is about 20%. That's what I had done in the past and it seemed to work well.
Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529758
What are you doing to mature your tank before adding SPS corals? Just feeding the fish and regular maintenance?
What's your water change schedule look like at this time? Will it change when you start stocking your tank with SPS?
There's nothing I can do, really, to mature the DT; time takes time, lol. I ghost feed and in a few weeks there will be fish in it. I've done one water change so far and I'll do one more a few days before adding the fish. I plan on doing 30g water changes every 2 weeks. Between the DT and the sump there's probably about 150 of water so a 30g w/c is about 20%. That's what I had done in the past and it seemed to work well.
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eric b 125
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Originally Posted by sweatervest13 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529819
They look good Eric!!! The QT system looks nice and clean. Plenty of room for a trio of YT's .
Thanks man! It has managed to stay pretty clean but it's only been a week. I wouldn't say there's plenty of room, but there's enough for a proper quarantine. I'm sure they will be very happy to hit the 6' tank.
Originally Posted by sweatervest13 http:///t/389056/taking-a-new-direction/700#post_3529819
They look good Eric!!! The QT system looks nice and clean. Plenty of room for a trio of YT's .
Thanks man! It has managed to stay pretty clean but it's only been a week. I wouldn't say there's plenty of room, but there's enough for a proper quarantine. I'm sure they will be very happy to hit the 6' tank.
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eric b 125
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I've been seeing these guys pretty regularly recently
You'll have to excuse the poor picture quality. They don't stick around long so I have to snap pictures before it's too late.
You'll have to excuse the poor picture quality. They don't stick around long so I have to snap pictures before it's too late.
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eric b 125
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Also, I learned today that there's a frag swap 20 miles north of here in November. I might have to change my 6 month plan
