Tank with ich, testing No-Ich

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usirchchris

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Originally Posted by LRoberts http:///forum/post/3043322
Well tonight there is just about no more signs of Ich!
Not sure if it was the No-Ich or nature but either way it is vanishing rapidly on all fish and the fish are acting very normal once again.
This would be expected in the natural ich life cycle. It feeds on the fish for a few days to a week and then drop off...only to come back much worse, each one respawning in the 100's. While attached to the fish the ich are in a protective casing, so you can be fairly certain the medication was not the cause of it dropping off. You may want to read this article to get a better understanding of how ich works https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/127007/faqs-fish-diseases-treatments-quarantine-health-info
Good Luck
 
windlasher

windlasher

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Originally Posted by Eric B 125
http:///forum/post/3042907
i hope you have good luck with this product. i'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination, but i still think that hypo is the best solution to ich. i just don't really see the need to add chemicals to treat something that can be taken care of without them. this is JMO, and who knows, if this stuff seems to work, maybe i'll give it a shot someday.
Stop being silly... YOU know as well as I do that the only SURE fire cure for ich are "BORG NanoProbes".
 
lroberts

lroberts

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LMAO.... Love the nanoprobes comment ;-)
Well as of today no signs of Ich. It went as fast as it came.
Again I can not say that it was the meds, garlic, both or nature but it seems to be gone... At least for now. I am not dosing today as the bottle said once you see the change then goto every other day. The skimmer is on and the fish are doing great. I will be sticking with soaking food in garlic from now on. The fish seem to like it. The only one that seems to not care for the garlic too much is my snow flake eel.
I am going to do a 15% water change in the morning.
I will keep you al posted.
One thing I have learned is that I think just about every tank has some form of ich in it.
The big questions is the health of the fish. I really do not think ich every goes away really.
It just sits and waits for something in the tank to be week and then strikes.
 
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usirchchris

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Originally Posted by LRoberts
http:///forum/post/3043960
One thing I have learned is that I think just about every tank has some form of ich in it.
The big questions is the health of the fish. I really do not think ich every goes away really.
It just sits and waits for something in the tank to be week and then strikes.

You are cracking me up. The first post I saw from you, was you explaining your frustration with "old timers" not giving new products such as no-ich their proper dues, and then claimed how successful the product is, even though you had never used it. Then I saw that you pulled up a four year old thread and you stated
"She USED to be correct that most products did not work well most of the time HOWEVER that being said No-Ich has been PROVEN to work and work well if used correctly. I myself am using it currently"
, and now you have come to this conclusion after 3 days. How does a product work if it cannot do what it claims? What proof did you ever have? You're on a role
 
nuro

nuro

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id just liek to poitn out that not even no-ichs webpage explains how it "disrupts the life cycle" IMO&E this stuff is a sham. i had an outbreak due to improper quarantine procedures(read: none) and gave it a shot. it failed miserably and i blame it for the death of my linkia. Also; because im dumb, and still have no quarantine procedures and i another outbreak, and beat it with MASSIVE water changes. 20% daily for two weeks, if you try this make sure you do a good job matching water parameters becuase any extra stress can negate the benificial effects. again all of this is IMO; please dont harp on me my quarantine procedures either, im aware i was retarded.
 
outsdr2

outsdr2

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Originally Posted by nuro
http:///forum/post/3044203
id just liek to poitn out that not even no-ichs webpage explains how it "disrupts the life cycle" IMO&E this stuff is a sham. i had an outbreak due to improper quarantine procedures(read: none) and gave it a shot. it failed miserably and i blame it for the death of my linkia. Also; because im dumb, and still have no quarantine procedures and i another outbreak, and beat it with MASSIVE water changes. 20% daily for two weeks, if you try this make sure you do a good job matching water parameters becuase any extra stress can negate the benificial effects. again all of this is IMO; please dont harp on me my quarantine procedures either, im aware i was retarded.
I am following this thread. Thanks for being brutally honest as I am in the same situation. I will institute a water change regiment immediatly.
Thanks. signed another retard.
 
deejeff442

deejeff442

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well the fist step is to admit it.
the next is to treat it

i had ich come and go over the years untill a little over a month ago the whole tank was being hit hard a had to hypo,just yesterday i started raising the salt.
all looks good now but i also feel ich is always presant.
really need to keep the thing healthy .
 
florida joe

florida joe

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all looks good now but i also feel ich is always presant.
Now understanding the life cycle of ick and understanding how hypo interrupts this life cycle ick cannot always be present in our tanks. It can be introduced again into our DT if our method of eradication is not spot on
 
pezenfuego

pezenfuego

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Originally Posted by LRoberts
http:///forum/post/3042605
oticed that the fish are not scratching like they were.
This is also the second day I have fed squid and krill that has been soaking in the fridge with garlic. I am not sure if garlic will help or not as that is yet another thing that is heated. It is talked about all the time but there is no clear answer if it works or not. Some people seem to swear by it and others seem to say it only attracks the fish into eating. But I figured it can't hurt.
I want to know what others think about this. You know why vampires are afraid of garlic? I think it's because it is effective against warding off vampire bats. I think it makes your blood taste bad or something. Before I go to camp I like to eat a lot of garlic. Honestly, it seems to help with mosquitoes. Of course I'm not 100% sure. Maybe it would help by making less ich parasites have the desire to latch on. So, what do you guys think?
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Mosquitoes suck your blood. Vampires suck your blood. Garlic is a natural insect repellent hence the folk lour that garlic will repel a vampire
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/3044634
Mosquitoes suck your blood. Vampires suck your blood. Garlic is a natural insect repellent hence the folk lour that garlic will repel a vampire
JOE...It's 10...errr 11...what's up???
VAMPIRES
 
pezenfuego

pezenfuego

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Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/3044634
Mosquitoes suck your blood. Vampires suck your blood. Garlic is a natural insect repellent hence the folk lour that garlic will repel a vampire
So the debate is not here, but rather in whether or not it works on cold blooded animals and parasites...
 
meowzer

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by PEZenfuego
http:///forum/post/3044614
I want to know what others think about this. You know why vampires are afraid of garlic? I think it's because it is effective against warding off vampire bats. I think it makes your blood taste bad or something. Before I go to camp I like to eat a lot of garlic. Honestly, it seems to help with mosquitoes. Of course I'm not 100% sure. Maybe it would help by making less ich parasites have the desire to latch on. So, what do you guys think?
PEZ...I thought you told me you didn't drink
 
florida joe

florida joe

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As an insect repellent I would assume it works on parasites but the question is once ingested does it repel or kill the parasite. Garlic has long been called the poor mans antibiotic and has proven benefits against bacteria so it may in fact help secondary infections caused by the ick parasite
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/3044650
As an insect repellent I would assume it works on parasites but the question is once ingested does it repel or kill the parasite. Garlic has long been called the poor mans antibiotic and has proven benefits against bacteria so it may in fact help secondary infections caused by the ick parasite
HEY...I knew someone who ate a fresh garlic clove to fight colds....and it worked..well for him
 
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