Tea Party Movement

stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/60#post_3310247
My problem is she clearly considers our current government tyrannical and that type of speech can get people hurt. I think she is unbalanced and not a good choice to be leading the country and she has some pretty radical views.
 
There are plenty of pics and video Reef going all the way back to the infamous Bridge to Nowhere video that is probably still on U-Tube. I'm not a fan of those "kooks" on the far-left either and I wish you could meet my father-in-law, a rascist and bigot who has found a home in the Tea Party as a way to peddle his hate in a slightly toned down version and his claim he is a patriot and doing what is right for this country have ensured virtually a life-time ban from my property after he attacked his own daughter in chain emails after she questioned why he was actually involved in the movement. I have also been around our local Tea Party who meets at the same place my wife and I enjoy having lunch and I do listen to what they discuss which one day included how we should defund public schools because one of the peoples son had been expelled permanantly for beating-up a handicapped kid who she said threw the first punch.....yeah right, either her kid is a liar and so is she or that handicapped kid was teased and harassed to the point of going nuts. I will not and don't associate with this type of person.
 
Actually all of Fox news is my reason for the comment, but don't worry MSNBC and Comedy Central are now holding there own rallies and there is nothing like standing behind your favorite bias news source to prove what an independant thinker you are and it is also doing nothing to help the political divide in this country. My politics are very different than yours or Streb's for example, but I still think we have far more in common than not and a political party that could focus on our common ground for the good of the country would be something very good indeed and none of the 24 hour news networks would come anywhere near it which would also be a good thing.
 
If the Tea Party would have just stuck to something like term limits and honest politicians/government REGARDLESS of political leanings could you imagine what could get done. Every crooked dirt-bag politician in D.C. would be scared to death regardless of party and that is what I am looking for.
 
Fishtaco
I've wandered in and observed a couple tea party rallies. And it has been a low taxes, no government intervention, self reliance themed event. A good spread of cultures (I do live in S Texas so white folks aren't in the majority round these parts) it is was as non contraversial as it could be. (well if you don't think low taxes, government minding their own business and self reliance). Without a centralized governing body as with every true grass roots movement, you're going to have all shapes and sizes including morons...
 
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Your going to have to trust me unless you want me to be banned for every racial slur in the book and the stereotypes that go along with them. One example I can use is one of the last times my wife visited him with a friend, he asked what she was doing for the day and upon finding out told her not to visit a town because she might contribute to lesbian or gay business owners. The only reason I have not kicked his butt for insulting my lovely and confirmed liberal wife is because she requested I not do it. LOL
 
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fishtaco

fishtaco

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/80#post_3310265
I've wandered in and observed a couple tea party rallies. And it has been a low taxes, no government intervention, self reliance themed event. A good spread of cultures (I do live in S Texas so white folks aren't in the majority round these parts) it is was as non contraversial as it could be. (well if you don't think low taxes, government minding their own business and self reliance). Without a centralized governing body as with every true grass roots movement, you're going to have all shapes and sizes including morons...
 
 
I know and I also freely admit that I react to the morons far more than I should because I have such a hard time relating to where they are coming from.
 
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reefraff

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/60#post_3310247
My problem is she clearly considers our current government tyrannical and that type of speech can get people hurt. I think she is unbalanced and not a good choice to be leading the country and she has some pretty radical views.
 
There are plenty of pics and video Reef going all the way back to the infamous Bridge to Nowhere video that is probably still on U-Tube. I'm not a fan of those "kooks" on the far-left either and I wish you could meet my father-in-law, a rascist and bigot who has found a home in the Tea Party as a way to peddle his hate in a slightly toned down version and his claim he is a patriot and doing what is right for this country have ensured virtually a life-time ban from my property after he attacked his own daughter in chain emails after she questioned why he was actually involved in the movement. I have also been around our local Tea Party who meets at the same place my wife and I enjoy having lunch and I do listen to what they discuss which one day included how we should defund public schools because one of the peoples son had been expelled permanantly for beating-up a handicapped kid who she said threw the first punch.....yeah right, either her kid is a liar and so is she or that handicapped kid was teased and harassed to the point of going nuts. I will not and don't associate with this type of person.
 
Actually all of Fox news is my reason for the comment, but don't worry MSNBC and Comedy Central are now holding there own rallies and there is nothing like standing behind your favorite bias news source to prove what an independant thinker you are and it is also doing nothing to help the political divide in this country. My politics are very different than yours or Streb's for example, but I still think we have far more in common than not and a political party that could focus on our common ground for the good of the country would be something very good indeed and none of the 24 hour news networks would come anywhere near it which would also be a good thing.
 
If the Tea Party would have just stuck to something like term limits and honest politicians/government REGARDLESS of political leanings could you imagine what could get done. Every crooked dirt-bag politician in D.C. would be scared to death regardless of party and that is what I am looking for.
 
Fishtaco
I share her views that the government is on the wrong road and has been for quite some time. If we keep headed in the direction we are now we could see it get very nasty within the next decade or less. I hardly think that is a radical view.
 
You say Fox is biased. Not sure what that has to do with the Tea Party. Sarah Palin is a paid analyst for them. So is Allen Colmes, Ellen Ratner, Mark Lamot Hill. Kirstin Powers, Doug Shone, Juan Williams and Bob Beckel to name a few; all nationally known Democrat strategists and pollsters. I really don't see where being associated with Palin means anything. Fox hires analyst from across the spectrum.
 
Taxed Enough Already, or TEA is what the tea party formed around. Democrats and lower taxes don't exactly go together.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/60#post_3310251
 
What membership mantra? Go up to the Dallas area, walk into a TGI Friday's in the Farmers Branch area, sit down and ask for a beer. The first thing they will tell you is if you want to buy alcohol in their establishment, you must purchase a MEMBERSHIP that allows you to drink there, and several other restaurants in the area for a specific period of time. Do you have to buy a 'drinking license' where you live? Didn't the 21st Amendment abolish Prohibition in this country?
 
I abide by the laws relegated by the judicial systems in this country, not by the one's written in a religious book. Yes, making it a felony to kill someone without malice is contrived from the Bible, but I think humanity would've implemented that law regardless if it was stated in the Bible or not.
 
Isn't the "Me Mentality" one of the main causes of the Tea Party movement? Keep the Federal Govt. out of MY pockets? Don't allow the Federal Govt. to tell ME what to do? It will always ultimately come down to how government affects YOUR personal life. You're the one railing about how the welfare recipients suck money from YOUR taxes and hard-earned money, not me. If you actually cared for YOUR country, YOUR nation, and YOUR county, you'd have no problem helping out those entities with your fair share.
So what would be better, having to go to another county to by the beer because local government passed a law, or having to go to another country because the feds passed a law?
 
 
fishtaco

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/80#post_3310352
 
I share her views that the government is on the wrong road and has been for quite some time. If we keep headed in the direction we are now we could see it get very nasty within the next decade or less. I hardly think that is a radical view.
 
You say Fox is biased. Not sure what that has to do with the Tea Party. Sarah Palin is a paid analyst for them. So is Allen Colmes, Ellen Ratner, Mark Lamot Hill. Kirstin Powers, Doug Shone, Juan Williams and Bob Beckel to name a few; all nationally known Democrat strategists and pollsters. I really don't see where being associated with Palin means anything. Fox hires analyst from across the spectrum.
 
Taxed Enough Already, or TEA is what the tea party formed around. Democrats and lower taxes don't exactly go together.
With all respect I am asking why does Taxed Enough Already have to do with the religious messages that Beck, Palin, O'Donnell and Angle all are pushing in connection with the Tea Party if it is not meant to exclude people other than far-right conservatives from the movement?
 
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reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/80#post_3310362
With all respect I am asking why does Taxed Enough Already have to do with the religious messages that Beck, Palin, O'Donnell and Angle all are pushing in connection with the Tea Party if it is not meant to exclude people other than far-right conservatives from the movement?
 
Fishtaco
Tea Party is about less government not religion. Yeah, there are religious people involved, so what? There are also non religious people involved.
 
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/80#post_3310362
With all respect I am asking why does Taxed Enough Already have to do with the religious messages that Beck, Palin, O'Donnell and Angle all are pushing in connection with the Tea Party if it is not meant to exclude people other than far-right conservatives from the movement?
 
Fishtaco
What should religious people not be involved with government? Hey, Endowed by our Creator? Wasn't referring to the big bang theory. It was referring to the Judeo-Christian God... Based in the same belief structure that (was it you or bionic?) You just pointed to as an lunatic...
 
fishtaco

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/80#post_3310368
Tea Party is about less government not religion. Yeah, there are religious people involved, so what? There are also non religious people involved.
 
Reef, dang it you have to be truthful here, that last Tea Party rally that Beck and Palin held was completely about religion, even the geese that got scared up where considered to be pretty religious.
 
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fishtaco

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/80#post_3310373
 
What should religious people not be involved with government? Hey, Endowed by our Creator? Wasn't referring to the big bang theory. It was referring to the Judeo-Christian God... Based in the same belief structure that (was it you or bionic?) You just pointed to as an lunatic...
I'm not saying they should not be involved and religious people have always been involved with government, however I do not trust that someone like Palin will stop or be satisfied with anything short of a religious theocracy for our form of government.
 
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spanko

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 
 
Please note that is says CONGRESS shall make no law. It says nothing about the states. I believe there was a time you had to be a Christian in Pennsylvania to hold a political office.
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/80#post_3310385
I'm not saying they should not be involved and religious people have always been involved with government, however I do not trust that someone like Palin will stop or be satisfied with anything short of a religious theocracy for our form of government.
 
Fishtaco
lol, the whole point of a Christianity is free will to choose. Kinda kicks the idea of a theocracy in the balls.
 
 
bionicarm

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Religion bad, personal freedoms good. Don't mix the two. You want to believe there's some Supreme Being watching every move you make, knock yourself out. But don't come tell me that "God says we should follow this path in our life, and because He said so, I think evrybody in this country should do the same." Read my post how the Southern Baptist have controlled what can or can't be done in Texas. I don't care to see that same thing occur nationwide.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380296/tea-party-movement/80#post_3310628
Religion bad, personal freedoms good. Don't mix the two. You want to believe there's some Supreme Being watching every move you make, knock yourself out. But don't come tell me that "God says we should follow this path in our life, and because He said so, I think evrybody in this country should do the same." Read my post how the Southern Baptist have controlled what can or can't be done in Texas. I don't care to see that same thing occur nationwide.
You know, you could look at what a group of strongly religious people did, back in the 1700's... It ended up working out pretty well...
 
reefraff

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One thing I will say is most religious people who are truly godly tend to be humble, a trait sorely lacking and badly lacking in our current government.
 
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