soviettaco
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Turn on Animal Planet right now or 9pm or rent this movie.
"THE COVE"
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soviettaco
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Funny, when genocide occurs people say the same thing "I don't want to watch that!" Or "I can't watch it!" and then you know what happens? You forget about it. You are inactive and it continues to happen until you do. You have to see evil to vanquish it. Thus you should watch, you must watch, force yourself to watch, so you know what is happening. Do not willingly become ignorant to the subject. Take the evidence that is shown and take a stance, take a stance like I did.
If you have watched the award winning film and feel inspired to do something about it you can start here:
http://apps.facebook.com/causes/petitions/252?m=a4681d42&recruiter_id=1987264&ref=mf
If this is not enough and you wish to do more you can find other ways to help the cause on this website:
http://www.takepart.com/thecove
Thank You,
Rob
If you have watched the award winning film and feel inspired to do something about it you can start here:
http://apps.facebook.com/causes/petitions/252?m=a4681d42&recruiter_id=1987264&ref=mf
If this is not enough and you wish to do more you can find other ways to help the cause on this website:
http://www.takepart.com/thecove
Thank You,
Rob
soviettaco
Active Member
Valid point and so do I, well the factory farm aspect of it. I do think the majority of US cattle farms, ranches, and cattle slaughter houses conduct their businesses in a humane way, though I am sure there are exceptions. I in fact come from a family who farms and harvests cows, pigs, and chickens. And I eat both meat and fish and in no way am I a vegetarian or am I against fishing or hunting. I'm actually a huge supporter of it as long as it is done so with the idea of sustainability and I think the DNR is doing a fine job executing that.
On another note, are cows one of the most intelligent animals on this planet? No. (though this is no away a reason to brutally and senselessly kill any animal)
Is the cow population in the US NOT able to be controlled by humans. No.
Is cow meat being labeled as other meat in attempts to cover up the fact that it is indeed beef? No.
Does ALL beef contain large amounts of mercury, in this case 2000 PPM (or other large amounts of known toxic elements) causing birth defects, body deformities, and mercury poisoning (or other poisoning)? No.
Is there a media blackout on how beef is caught and slaughtered? No.
Is the slaughter of cows (even if under humane circumstances) banned in any U.N. acknowledged country in the world (outside of religious reasons) other then in ONE country? No.
Is beef blamed falsely for the world wide decrease in fish population or other animal populations? No.
Is beef a meat that is seen as food that is NOT something that we should eat here in the United States? No.
YET ALL OF THESE THINGS CAN be answered YES when applied to the dolphin slaughter that is being conducted by the Japanese in Taiji, Japan and in other parts of the Pacific.
On another note, are cows one of the most intelligent animals on this planet? No. (though this is no away a reason to brutally and senselessly kill any animal)
Is the cow population in the US NOT able to be controlled by humans. No.
Is cow meat being labeled as other meat in attempts to cover up the fact that it is indeed beef? No.
Does ALL beef contain large amounts of mercury, in this case 2000 PPM (or other large amounts of known toxic elements) causing birth defects, body deformities, and mercury poisoning (or other poisoning)? No.
Is there a media blackout on how beef is caught and slaughtered? No.
Is the slaughter of cows (even if under humane circumstances) banned in any U.N. acknowledged country in the world (outside of religious reasons) other then in ONE country? No.
Is beef blamed falsely for the world wide decrease in fish population or other animal populations? No.
Is beef a meat that is seen as food that is NOT something that we should eat here in the United States? No.
YET ALL OF THESE THINGS CAN be answered YES when applied to the dolphin slaughter that is being conducted by the Japanese in Taiji, Japan and in other parts of the Pacific.
4thehalibut
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i just finished watching this and it is really sad, plus all the high mercury levels in the dolphins are harming the people of japan to 
reefraff
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So what, it's only cool to kill dumb animals? I think any animal, be it cow, dolphin or whale should be treated as well as possible before it becomes food. However, just like us with cows we have no right to get all crazy bent out of shape when a country uses Flipper or Shamu as a food source. I can see demanding the animals be brought to slaughter in a humane way but there are plenty of people who don't believe they have the right to eat them at all. Not our right to do that unless they are being hunted to extinction.
spanko
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/379867/the-cove#post_3303664
.................. I can see demanding the animals be brought to slaughter in a humane way .............................
Just gave me a giggle using "slaughter" and "humane way" in the same sentence.
To the OP, get off your high horse, if you don't like it try to think of all the things that are killed so that you can consume or wear them. Then if you want something done about it, quit buying those things.
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/379867/the-cove#post_3303664
.................. I can see demanding the animals be brought to slaughter in a humane way .............................
Just gave me a giggle using "slaughter" and "humane way" in the same sentence.
To the OP, get off your high horse, if you don't like it try to think of all the things that are killed so that you can consume or wear them. Then if you want something done about it, quit buying those things.
cranberry
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I've lived the scenario of being the "animal abusers". Our crime? Seal hunting. Once upon a time our peeps used "tools" that were very cruel. That was what they had available and it was a matter of eating or not. The traditional tools were used longer than necessary, I'll admit. But some outports still don't have paved roads and are inbred like all-get-out, and it's harder to change their traditional ways passed down through generations. Years passed and the tools of the trade became more "humane" but people still didn't like the idea of killing seals and dug up the old videos again and again in their attempts to shut it down. Of course you'll always find people who are in that trade that are treating the animals poorly.... cows, pigs, seals.... but that doesn't mean there aren't many many many more who are doing it correctly. What I'm saying is, take those videos with a grain of salt for some of it is propaganda. That video was also proven to be photoshopped for "effect".
meowzer
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Originally Posted by Cranberry http:///forum/thread/379867/the-cove#post_3303687
I've lived the scenario of being the "animal abusers". Our crime? Seal hunting.
Surely you didn't beat them up with a club though????
Originally Posted by Cranberry http:///forum/thread/379867/the-cove#post_3303687
I've lived the scenario of being the "animal abusers". Our crime? Seal hunting.
Surely you didn't beat them up with a club though????
soviettaco
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/379867/the-cove#post_3303664
So what, it's only cool to kill dumb animals? I think any animal, be it cow, dolphin or whale should be treated as well as possible before it becomes food. However, just like us with cows we have no right to get all crazy bent out of shape when a country uses Flipper or Shamu as a food source. I can see demanding the animals be brought to slaughter in a humane way but there are plenty of people who don't believe they have the right to eat them at all. Not our right to do that unless they are being hunted to extinction.
This was one of the first things I said.
"On another note, are cows one of the most intelligent animals on this planet? No. (though this is in no away a reason to brutally and senselessly kill ANY animal)" And reefraff the dolphin population has been effected by this. There are parts of Japan where dolphins used to thrive in the tens of thousand and now they are gone it's cause they were over fished. And for what? TOXIC MEAT. Would you eat toxic meat? Would you allow your pregnant wife to eat toxic meat? Would allow your children to eat toxic meat if you what would happen to them?
And to Spanko, the dolphin meat is being labeled as other seafood and then sold. Dolphin meat is not in anyway, shape, or form a desired meat in Japan. The fact that it is being labeled as something else is one thing but that the whole issue cannot be published in a newspaper or covered in the media without criminal prosecution occurring is another. And on top of it all ALL DOLPHINS ARE LOADED WITH MERCURY. The Japanese Fishing Ministry only allows seafood to contain 0.04 PPM of Mercury. Dolphin meat from the pacific has 2000.00 PPM of Mercury. Watch the movie and you will see why it's wrong.
This is what happened at the turn of the 20th century and is still happening today but it's not talked about. Instead it's labeled as a disease by the Japanese.
soviettaco
Active Member
No............... You all do not seem to get the point............. The meat is toxic....... So what why would you kill a toxic animal and then eat it......... why? Can you answer me that? Cranberry answer me why killing an animal for it's meat that causes a person's nervous system to shut down should be allowed? Please......
reefraff
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Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/379867/the-cove#post_3303667
Just gave me a giggle using "slaughter" and "humane way" in the same sentence.
To the OP, get off your high horse, if you don't like it try to think of all the things that are killed so that you can consume or wear them. Then if you want something done about it, quit buying those things.
LOL! I know but that is the correct term for preping an animal to be butchered.
Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/379867/the-cove#post_3303667
Just gave me a giggle using "slaughter" and "humane way" in the same sentence.
To the OP, get off your high horse, if you don't like it try to think of all the things that are killed so that you can consume or wear them. Then if you want something done about it, quit buying those things.
LOL! I know but that is the correct term for preping an animal to be butchered.
cranberry
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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/379867/the-cove#post_3303691
Surely you didn't beat them up with a club though????
It was a hook thingy.
Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/379867/the-cove#post_3303691
Surely you didn't beat them up with a club though????
It was a hook thingy.
soviettaco
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So what's your answer?
soviettaco
Active Member
Why would they be testing the meat if it's labeled as something else that does not contain mercury? Why would there be a media blackout of the subject as well? You can ask people across Japan did you know people eat dolphin and they would say "no... who eats dolphin" and that's without them even knowing it's toxic. And why do you think Pacific or any other type of dolphin is not consumed by any other country in the world?
Oceankid that is the biggest part of the problem there is plenty of things you can do, the easiest being to simply talk about it. Tell me why we can't do anything?
Oceankid that is the biggest part of the problem there is plenty of things you can do, the easiest being to simply talk about it. Tell me why we can't do anything?
spanko
Active Member
My answer is to get your thinking out of other peoples lives.
The fugu is so poisonous that in Japan, fugu chefs are trained specially for the job and are tested before being a given certificates of practice. The training takes two or three years. In order to pass, the chef must answer a written test then give a demonstration of his cutting abilities. The final part of the test involves the chef eating the pieces of fugu that he has cut. Only 30% of apprentices pass the test – which is not to say that the rest die by eating their fugu – they can fail in earlier parts of the test. Only the flesh of the fugu is consumed as it is less likely to have high amounts of poison (which causes a slight tingling sensation in the mouth). Fugu is the only food officially illegal for the Emperor of Japan to eat – for his safety.
This is one of the world’s popular staple food. Cassava is often used to make the tropical delicacy in the form of tapioca starch or flour. However, if not properly washed or cooked, cassava leaves and roots contain toxin called cyanide which is fatal to humans even in small doses.
Ackee plant is originated from West Africa. Later, it was introduced to Florida, USA. The fruit looks like a pear, red in color when it’s ripe. The ackee fruit must be picked after it has naturally opened and revealed the seeds. The fruit must be eaten at the right time. The fruit is poisonous if it is both immature and overripe. The fleshy part around the seeds is the only part which is edible. The rest of the fruit contain a type of toxin called hypoglycin which can be fatal if consumed.
The silver-stripe blaasop is a delicacy among the locals who live in some parts of the Indian Ocean.The locals are experts in removing the toxic parts of the fish before cooking and consuming it. The poison is concentrated in the liver,reproductive organs and also the skin of the fish which can cause paralysis and breathing problems if consumed by humans.Somehow, the silver-stripe blaasop made its way to the eastern Mediterranean waters. In early 2007, there are about 10 reported deaths relating to the poisoning of the fish which include 8 in Egypt and 2 in Israel.
Must I go on? Just because you do not agree, does not make your take on it the only correct one.
The fugu is so poisonous that in Japan, fugu chefs are trained specially for the job and are tested before being a given certificates of practice. The training takes two or three years. In order to pass, the chef must answer a written test then give a demonstration of his cutting abilities. The final part of the test involves the chef eating the pieces of fugu that he has cut. Only 30% of apprentices pass the test – which is not to say that the rest die by eating their fugu – they can fail in earlier parts of the test. Only the flesh of the fugu is consumed as it is less likely to have high amounts of poison (which causes a slight tingling sensation in the mouth). Fugu is the only food officially illegal for the Emperor of Japan to eat – for his safety.
This is one of the world’s popular staple food. Cassava is often used to make the tropical delicacy in the form of tapioca starch or flour. However, if not properly washed or cooked, cassava leaves and roots contain toxin called cyanide which is fatal to humans even in small doses.
Ackee plant is originated from West Africa. Later, it was introduced to Florida, USA. The fruit looks like a pear, red in color when it’s ripe. The ackee fruit must be picked after it has naturally opened and revealed the seeds. The fruit must be eaten at the right time. The fruit is poisonous if it is both immature and overripe. The fleshy part around the seeds is the only part which is edible. The rest of the fruit contain a type of toxin called hypoglycin which can be fatal if consumed.
The silver-stripe blaasop is a delicacy among the locals who live in some parts of the Indian Ocean.The locals are experts in removing the toxic parts of the fish before cooking and consuming it. The poison is concentrated in the liver,reproductive organs and also the skin of the fish which can cause paralysis and breathing problems if consumed by humans.Somehow, the silver-stripe blaasop made its way to the eastern Mediterranean waters. In early 2007, there are about 10 reported deaths relating to the poisoning of the fish which include 8 in Egypt and 2 in Israel.
Must I go on? Just because you do not agree, does not make your take on it the only correct one.