the death penalty

[dogstar]

"" States that have a DP often struggle with higher crime ""
True
"" and institute the DP as a way to deter crime. ""
That may be the thought, but the numbers do not proove it works, just the opposite.
"" That explains why state's with the DP have higher crime rates...""
Sadly, that may be true.

 

[1journeyman]

It works in that the particular person exocuted will never commit another violent crime....

 

[dogstar]

True, if he/she did commit a crime. Life in prison also should acheive that as well.
My point is for saveing more innocent victims. As I said earlier, what ever is ones priority I guess.

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by Dogstar
True, if he/she did commit a crime. Life in prison also should acheive that as well.
My point is for saveing more innocent victims. As I said earlier, what ever is ones priority I guess.
I've never seen the name of a single innocent person exocuted. Have there been any?
I can name you prisoners who have escaped and murdered while on the run from prison and life sentences.

 

[earlybird]

I'm glad I don't have to be the judge/jury that makes the decision. I'm against it but not to the point of picketing. I don't know the numbers but I do know that there have been more than a few that have been wrongfully convicted and "terminated." This is so wrong even if it was only one person, could you believe it? However, it's as old as history and I believe it will never go away. It's really an issue that won't lend itself to compromise.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Dogstar
Thank you.
As to your question, I dont know.
But for the sake of those that insist on haveing a DP. I hope its something else.
But do you see my problem with that argument? I really think people who do stuff like that, aren't all there upstairs, so it doesn't matter what the punishment is.
But as stated before I don't think the primary reason for the death penalty is to set an example for others to see. But to without a shadow of a doubt assure that this person cannot repeat his actions.

 

[dogstar]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
I've never seen the name of a single innocent person exocuted. Have there been any?
I can name you prisoners who have escaped and murdered while on the run from prison and life sentences.
I dont know....I would think so. I am intrested in how you know....though.
Unless you just simply mean convicted, that does not mean the same as is or not innocent.
Your other point only shows how ineffective we run the prisons in this country. The money spent on DP cases could easily be spent to secure the prisons much better and have plenty left over.

 

[salty blues]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonthefishguy
The only 2 that publically got away with murder and we all know they did it was OJ and Robert blake. .
What? I thought OJ was found not guilty on all counts. This is truly a bummer.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
oh snap OJ, that was so wierd, and why in the world was a multimillionaire driving an ugly blazer in LA? That always confounded me, sure in a rural area, or something, but in the middle of LA?
Cause blood is easily removed from the ******** of that particular model bronco

 

[reefkprz]

Originally Posted by Dogstar
True, if he/she did commit a crime. Life in prison also should acheive that as well..
should, but convicted murderers have killed others in jail. rapists have raped others in jail. heck murderers have raped people in jail, thus turning into rapists as well as murderers. I mean if you want solitary confinement at all times, thats pretty much equal to the death penalty in my mind a 10x6 foot cell where they cannot touch another human to cause harm. I would go for that. 1 meal a day consisting of 100% daily value of vitamins and nutrition to ration as they see fit.
but thats not the term they serve, they go to the gym (exersize yard with better exersize equipment than i can afford) eat 3 square meals a day, watch cable tv, sleep in a well heated environment and it costs them nothing.
the most honest man I know eats 2 meals a day because for his kids to eat three he cant. he doesnt have cable, his house temperature is set at 55 degrees because oil costs so much, and pays out the nose to live in a rotting trailer in a highcrime neighborhood because they keep releasing repeat offenders. where is the justification for letting them have cable? the justification for letting them have a blanket? where is the justification for letting them have the best exersize equipment out there.
if not death give them a little steel cage and one meal a day, heat optional.

 

[patandlace]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
I've never seen the name of a single innocent person exocuted. Have there been any?
I can name you prisoners who have escaped and murdered while on the run from prison and life sentences.
I can name a few myself. I work as a correction officer in the max unit of a prison. I've seen more officers assaulted than I can count with my fingers. I've seen inmates break down while admiting they've been raped. There is inmates living in the unit that 10 years ago killed 2 other inmates living in the same unit during tier time. I've heard "Jailhouse confessions" from some of the biggest scum walking the earth. Talking about how he stabbed his mom in through the eye with an icepick then "shot the B.... because she was still twitching". I've seen junkie's frivalously sue the department for millions then settle out of court for a few thousand because it's more cost effective for the state to pay out the settlement then it is to defend itself in a civil trial that involves half the department. His next heroin fix will be on the taxpayers. I could go on all day... So I'm definately in favor of the death penalty and am dissapointed my state hasn't used in since 1948.

 

[natemd]

Originally Posted by patandlace
I can name a few myself. I work as a correction officer in the max unit of a prison. I've seen more officers assaulted than I can count with my fingers. I've seen inmates break down while admiting they've been raped. There is inmates living in the unit that 10 years ago killed 2 other inmates living in the same unit during tier time. I've heard "Jailhouse confessions" from some of the biggest scum walking the earth. Talking about how he stabbed his mom in through the eye with an icepick then "shot the B.... because she was still twitching". I've seen junkie's frilalously sue the department for millions then settle out of court for a few thousand because it's more cost effective for the state to pay out the settlement then it is to defend itself in a civil trial that involves half the department. His next heroin fix will be on the taxpayers. I could go on all day... So I'm definately in favor of the death penalty and am dissapointed my state hasn't used in since 1948.
I guess that is probably why i'm in favor of the death penalty as well. Growing up my father worked as a corrections officer for around 20 years. At one point he and another man were actually taken to court by an imate who attacked them with a knife. His argument for suing them was that they were too rough when trying to disarm him. And this joker was already in for over 10 years for previous violent crimes.

 

[goober_hunter]

many different views on this subject, i think that if the evidence can Prove that someone is guilt and is one death rowe or doing life, in my OPINION, they should go straight to lethal injection.