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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3009924
As Mantisman stated, I know more about the Bible and religion than you think. My mother is a devout Catholic of 83 years, and I grew up respecting her religion. I went to Catholic school for 6 years. God and the Bible were drilled into my head on a daily basis. All the time I listened to this, I always thought to myself, "This 'person' that these people revere so much doesn't make sense to me. Where's the logic behind it?" I just didn't get 'it'. I think logically, not spiritually. I base my beliefs on the physical, not what I call The Supernatural. I'm a realist. You want me to believe in something? Show me physical proof. Writings in a book that's a couple thousand years old isn't PHYSICAL proof.
I honestly have no reason to hate or blame God. To me, he's just a figment of the imagination, drummed up by religious zealots to inspire their followers to follow and respect their principles.
If I were to put two and two together... does that mean you're calling your mom a religious zealot?
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3009924
Remember that movie back in the 70's or 80's where this member of an African tribe (or was it an Australian aborigne?) was walking along, and a Coke bottle fell out of the sky and hit him on the head? He and his entire tribe proclaimed this bottle to be their God. Is that how you portray this 'being'? What exactly is gained by believing in a Higher Being? Do you honestly feel there's this magical place somewhere in the universe you soul goes to when you die? Again, no physical proof this place exists. The only way you'll ever know is by dying. And so far, there's no scientific way to bring you back from the dead to find out if there is a Heaven or Hell. There have been people who claim they've come back from the dead, and saw this bright light. But who really knows what happens. No physical proof.
The Cycle Of Life - You're born, you get laid, you die, the worms eat you.
The movie is "The Gods Must Be Crazy" and they made a sequel. It was an african from the bushman tribe.
Why stop at the bible though? I want to see proof that Alexander the great existed. All we have are manuscripts. what about all the roman emperors? Sure, we have some coins with a face on them, but whose face? How do we know it's them. What about every other historical figure we have only written info on?
Seriously though man, I'm done. It wouldn't be faith if we had facts. That's what we're arguing here - the difference between faith and facts. I have faith and you don't like it.... you want facts and I can't give it... you consider written manuscripts unacceptable means of historical proof... and you're asking for friggin noah's ark.
http:///forum/post/3009924
As Mantisman stated, I know more about the Bible and religion than you think. My mother is a devout Catholic of 83 years, and I grew up respecting her religion. I went to Catholic school for 6 years. God and the Bible were drilled into my head on a daily basis. All the time I listened to this, I always thought to myself, "This 'person' that these people revere so much doesn't make sense to me. Where's the logic behind it?" I just didn't get 'it'. I think logically, not spiritually. I base my beliefs on the physical, not what I call The Supernatural. I'm a realist. You want me to believe in something? Show me physical proof. Writings in a book that's a couple thousand years old isn't PHYSICAL proof.
I honestly have no reason to hate or blame God. To me, he's just a figment of the imagination, drummed up by religious zealots to inspire their followers to follow and respect their principles.
If I were to put two and two together... does that mean you're calling your mom a religious zealot?
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3009924
Remember that movie back in the 70's or 80's where this member of an African tribe (or was it an Australian aborigne?) was walking along, and a Coke bottle fell out of the sky and hit him on the head? He and his entire tribe proclaimed this bottle to be their God. Is that how you portray this 'being'? What exactly is gained by believing in a Higher Being? Do you honestly feel there's this magical place somewhere in the universe you soul goes to when you die? Again, no physical proof this place exists. The only way you'll ever know is by dying. And so far, there's no scientific way to bring you back from the dead to find out if there is a Heaven or Hell. There have been people who claim they've come back from the dead, and saw this bright light. But who really knows what happens. No physical proof.
The Cycle Of Life - You're born, you get laid, you die, the worms eat you.
The movie is "The Gods Must Be Crazy" and they made a sequel. It was an african from the bushman tribe.
Why stop at the bible though? I want to see proof that Alexander the great existed. All we have are manuscripts. what about all the roman emperors? Sure, we have some coins with a face on them, but whose face? How do we know it's them. What about every other historical figure we have only written info on?
Seriously though man, I'm done. It wouldn't be faith if we had facts. That's what we're arguing here - the difference between faith and facts. I have faith and you don't like it.... you want facts and I can't give it... you consider written manuscripts unacceptable means of historical proof... and you're asking for friggin noah's ark.