This whole Trayvon Martin thing has me perplexed...
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darthtang aw
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Nadda. It just goes to show that as long as we have a mixed but goofy looking white/hispanic guy to make fun of that blacks and whites can get along just fine. What's wrong with that?
When my son grows up he will look like Zimmerman...........................
Darth (atleast he will be helpful within society) Tang
darthtang aw
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As apposed to?
I guess making fun of someone's doggie isn't quite the same huh?
2 (when did Darth turn into a saint?) Quills
Don't worry. There is no chance I will ever be confused as a saint.
Darth (Not catholic) tang
P.S. I am not into little boys either..............
2quills
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That's better. Just trying to find the light at the end of the tunnel here. For once folks in this thread were starting to laugh and smile again. Almost as though we were moving on from all of the pent up hostility that this situation has stirred up.
Now, onto the real problems facing this nations citizens...our government and corporate greed.
2 (moving on for the bagillionth time) Quills
Now, onto the real problems facing this nations citizens...our government and corporate greed.
2 (moving on for the bagillionth time) Quills
mohawkninja
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/395946/this-whole-trayvon-martin-thing-has-me-perplexed/80#post_3527225
No but it's hood was up
Thug Car.
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/395946/this-whole-trayvon-martin-thing-has-me-perplexed/80#post_3527225
No but it's hood was up
Thug Car.
bang guy
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Originally Posted by mohawkninja http:///t/395946/this-whole-trayvon-martin-thing-has-me-perplexed/100#post_3527255
Thug Car.
What were the toxicity results on the car?
Originally Posted by mohawkninja http:///t/395946/this-whole-trayvon-martin-thing-has-me-perplexed/100#post_3527255
Thug Car.
What were the toxicity results on the car?
deejeff442
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all i have to say is i volunteer at my local fire dept. for 6 years now. if we get on an mva or a structure fire. i have never even for a second noticed the color of peoples skin. this country is a mess right now. sickens me . the media and gov't just play us for votes thats is all.
darthtang aw
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IIn all honesty, I don't think it is skin color that separate us. Its cultural differences. The bigger those differences, the bigger the divide.
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I disagree. There are a slew of cultural differences within skin color. One only needs to look at history to see that. It isn't the cultural differences. It is the obvious differences that are always made a big deal about.
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I disagree. There are a slew of cultural differences within skin color. One only needs to look at history to see that. It isn't the cultural differences. It is the obvious differences that are always made a big deal about.
Those cultural differences divide us further, even within skin color, which is why we have nasty references such as trailer-trash , hicks, etc., within same-color. Many Af-Americans refer to blacks who seem to align themselves more with the Anglo culture as Oreros or Uncle Toms. It is not the skin color that people apply the name calling to, but the culture. It is based on not understanding or agreeing. Having an aversion for that culture on one or more levels.
darthtang aw
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I still don't see how cultural differences create the race baiting that goes on in this country.
mohawkninja
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/395946/this-whole-trayvon-martin-thing-has-me-perplexed/100#post_3527347
I still don't see how cultural differences create the race baiting that goes on in this country.
People associate skin color with a culture. I am black, but I am not a criminal, or a thug, or whatever you call it. People think I am though. I was searched 2 days ago while walking from the library because the cop thought I had drugs. There was no reason, but WWB (Walking While Black) is apparently a crime lol.
I still don't see how cultural differences create the race baiting that goes on in this country.
People associate skin color with a culture. I am black, but I am not a criminal, or a thug, or whatever you call it. People think I am though. I was searched 2 days ago while walking from the library because the cop thought I had drugs. There was no reason, but WWB (Walking While Black) is apparently a crime lol.
reefraff
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My Aunt was a prim and proper church going lady. Some years ago at Thanksgiving she was telling me how much she enjoyed meeting this friend of my brothers at the lake were her and my Uncle and my parents had their trailers set up. She just kept going on about what a nice young man he was. She couldn't think of his name but keep guessing unconventional names starting with an S. Spiny, Scooter, Sunny etc. I finally ask "was it Spider?" She says "Yes, Spider. Such a nice young man. Spider was a tatted up, long haired greasy biker who really was a nice guy.
I was with my stepdad at the bar he and my mom used to hang out at when Spider and my brother came in. The owner of the bar told Spider to leave until me and my stepdad started to leave with him
The moral of the story is people get misjudged based on a lot more than the color of their skin.
I was with my stepdad at the bar he and my mom used to hang out at when Spider and my brother came in. The owner of the bar told Spider to leave until me and my stepdad started to leave with him
The moral of the story is people get misjudged based on a lot more than the color of their skin.
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/395946/this-whole-trayvon-martin-thing-has-me-perplexed/100#post_3527347
I still don't see how cultural differences create the race baiting that goes on in this country.
People associate skin color with a culture. I am black, but I am not a criminal, or a thug, or whatever you call it. People think I am though. I was searched 2 days ago while walking from the library because the cop thought I had drugs. There was no reason, but WWB (Walking While Black) is apparently a crime lol.
That is what I think. The color of skin is associated with the culture (which is terribly generalized). If black men acted just like white men, and visa versa, then there would be little conflicts. Skin color is mostly associated with the culture. The race issues in this country are highly conflicting because there are so many cultures in this country.
mohawk, can I ask were there any "triggers" aside from race that may acct for being searched? Such as clothes, neighborhood, etc? You can't just search someone in this country wo cause. Did you file a complaint?
Originally Posted by mohawkninja http:///t/395946/this-whole-trayvon-martin-thing-has-me-perplexed/100#post_3527348
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/395946/this-whole-trayvon-martin-thing-has-me-perplexed/100#post_3527347
I still don't see how cultural differences create the race baiting that goes on in this country.
People associate skin color with a culture. I am black, but I am not a criminal, or a thug, or whatever you call it. People think I am though. I was searched 2 days ago while walking from the library because the cop thought I had drugs. There was no reason, but WWB (Walking While Black) is apparently a crime lol.
That is what I think. The color of skin is associated with the culture (which is terribly generalized). If black men acted just like white men, and visa versa, then there would be little conflicts. Skin color is mostly associated with the culture. The race issues in this country are highly conflicting because there are so many cultures in this country.
mohawk, can I ask were there any "triggers" aside from race that may acct for being searched? Such as clothes, neighborhood, etc? You can't just search someone in this country wo cause. Did you file a complaint?
reefraff
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So one of the jurors is speaking publicly. She says she thinks Zimmerman got away with murder but after seeing the evidence found him not guilty. The most telling part of this is she said she didn't think this case should have been brought to trial. So now you have someone who saw all the evidence and despite being anti Zimmerman found him to be innocent and says she saw nothing to suggest this was anything to do with race. Meanwhile the 0bama regime justice department is investigating the matter further. That same justice department announced today they are challenging the Supreme Court ruling on the voting rights act. By challenge they mean ignore because you cannot challenge a Supreme Court ruling.
I wonder if the 0bama supporters feel foolish yet....
I wonder if the 0bama supporters feel foolish yet....
2quills
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Originally Posted by Beth http:///t/395946/this-whole-trayvon-martin-thing-has-me-perplexed/100#post_3527360
You can't just search someone in this country wo cause. Did you file a complaint?
Happens all of the time and practically nothing is done about it. Nobody is immune to random drug searching now a days. I've personally been pulled over and searched twice in the past for no real apparent reason what so ever and was never ticketed for anything.
Down here, the Hispanic culture catches probably the majority of it. If you're Hispanic and driving a van or something of that nature, don't be surprised if you're followed and or pulled over and searched by border patrol officers looking for drugs or illegals.
I will say that back home in Michigan, there is some serious racial profiling going on. It's so prominent that police and municipalities really don't even try to be discrete about it anymore. If cops run your tags and find out that you live in the city of Detroit but you cross that city limit, guess what? Search, search, search. And it's not just the black folk. The drug epidemic is so bad back there that if you're white and in the city of Detroit then they presume you're there to buy drugs. If you're black and outside of the city limit then you're presumably heading to the suburbs to sell them. Good luck trying to file a complaint, nobody cares.
Guilty until proven innocent. That is the actuality of it. But black people are not necessarily alone in that regard and I think that's what people need to understand.
Originally Posted by Beth http:///t/395946/this-whole-trayvon-martin-thing-has-me-perplexed/100#post_3527360
You can't just search someone in this country wo cause. Did you file a complaint?
Happens all of the time and practically nothing is done about it. Nobody is immune to random drug searching now a days. I've personally been pulled over and searched twice in the past for no real apparent reason what so ever and was never ticketed for anything.
Down here, the Hispanic culture catches probably the majority of it. If you're Hispanic and driving a van or something of that nature, don't be surprised if you're followed and or pulled over and searched by border patrol officers looking for drugs or illegals.
I will say that back home in Michigan, there is some serious racial profiling going on. It's so prominent that police and municipalities really don't even try to be discrete about it anymore. If cops run your tags and find out that you live in the city of Detroit but you cross that city limit, guess what? Search, search, search. And it's not just the black folk. The drug epidemic is so bad back there that if you're white and in the city of Detroit then they presume you're there to buy drugs. If you're black and outside of the city limit then you're presumably heading to the suburbs to sell them. Good luck trying to file a complaint, nobody cares.
Guilty until proven innocent. That is the actuality of it. But black people are not necessarily alone in that regard and I think that's what people need to understand.
mohawkninja
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Quote:Originally Posted by Beth http:///t/395946/this-whole-trayvon-martin-thing-has-me-perplexed/100#post_3527360
That is what I think. The color of skin is associated with the culture (which is terribly generalized). If black men acted just like white men, and visa versa, then there would be little conflicts. Skin color is mostly associated with the culture. The race issues in this country are highly conflicting because there are so many cultures in this country.
mohawk, can I ask were there any "triggers" aside from race that may acct for being searched? Such as clothes, neighborhood, etc? You can't just search someone in this country wo cause. Did you file a complaint?
I didn't file anything, I'm used to it. I was wearing a pair of cargo shorts with a bunch of stuff in the pockets, so it might have looked like I stole something, especially coming out of a shopping plaza (our library is right next to the mall). The policeman was nice about it too, he just asked me to empty my pockets. It wasn't like- Throw me against a wall and pat me down or anything like that.
That is what I think. The color of skin is associated with the culture (which is terribly generalized). If black men acted just like white men, and visa versa, then there would be little conflicts. Skin color is mostly associated with the culture. The race issues in this country are highly conflicting because there are so many cultures in this country.
mohawk, can I ask were there any "triggers" aside from race that may acct for being searched? Such as clothes, neighborhood, etc? You can't just search someone in this country wo cause. Did you file a complaint?
I didn't file anything, I'm used to it. I was wearing a pair of cargo shorts with a bunch of stuff in the pockets, so it might have looked like I stole something, especially coming out of a shopping plaza (our library is right next to the mall). The policeman was nice about it too, he just asked me to empty my pockets. It wasn't like- Throw me against a wall and pat me down or anything like that.
2quills
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Originally Posted by mohawkninja http:///t/395946/this-whole-trayvon-martin-thing-has-me-perplexed/100#post_3527363
I didn't file anything, I'm used to it. I was wearing a pair of cargo shorts with a bunch of stuff in the pockets, so it might have looked like I stole something, especially coming out of a shopping plaza (our library is right next to the mall). The policeman was nice about it too, he just asked me to empty my pockets. It wasn't like- Throw me against a wall and pat me down or anything like that.
Perhaps all of this talk about racial profiling is really just a smaller part of what I believe to be an even bigger problem. And that is what I'd call criminal profiling. We have become a nation of so many laws that anybody can be criminalized at any time. A place where you can be considered a law breaker from anything as simple as forgetting to renew the tags on your car all the way to down right pre meditated murder. Anybody could be guilty, anytime or anywhere. This is the mentality of those who are put in charge of protecting us have.
If we all lived in China or Africa, Mexico or wherever and were all the same color we would still see the same injustices just as we do here. The difference here is that we are a nation that has prided ourselves on our differences. And typically it's those differences that are the easiest to point fingers at.
Originally Posted by mohawkninja http:///t/395946/this-whole-trayvon-martin-thing-has-me-perplexed/100#post_3527363
I didn't file anything, I'm used to it. I was wearing a pair of cargo shorts with a bunch of stuff in the pockets, so it might have looked like I stole something, especially coming out of a shopping plaza (our library is right next to the mall). The policeman was nice about it too, he just asked me to empty my pockets. It wasn't like- Throw me against a wall and pat me down or anything like that.
Perhaps all of this talk about racial profiling is really just a smaller part of what I believe to be an even bigger problem. And that is what I'd call criminal profiling. We have become a nation of so many laws that anybody can be criminalized at any time. A place where you can be considered a law breaker from anything as simple as forgetting to renew the tags on your car all the way to down right pre meditated murder. Anybody could be guilty, anytime or anywhere. This is the mentality of those who are put in charge of protecting us have.
If we all lived in China or Africa, Mexico or wherever and were all the same color we would still see the same injustices just as we do here. The difference here is that we are a nation that has prided ourselves on our differences. And typically it's those differences that are the easiest to point fingers at.