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reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393310/trump/60#post_3499170
No, he left the church after the Republican's started posting his sermons on YouTube...
Yet again you don't know what you are talking about, and you voted for the clown.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24908975/ns/politics-decision_08/t/obama-quits-church-after-long-controversy/#.UJF9FoYrMsw
For months, Obama has been hamstrung by the rhetoric of Wright, whose sermons blaming U.S. policies for the Sept. 11 attacks and calls of "God damn America" for its racism became fixtures on the Internet and cable news networks.
Initially, Obama said he disagreed with Wright but portrayed him as a family member he couldn't disown. The preacher had officiated at Obama's wedding, baptized his two daughters and been his spiritual mentor for some 20 years.
But six weeks after Obama's well-received speech on race, Wright claimed at the Press Club appearance that the U.S. government was capable of planting AIDS in the black community, praised Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and suggested that Obama was acting like a politician by putting his pastor at arm's length while privately agreeing with him.
The next day, Obama denounced Wright's comments as "divisive and destructive."
Remarks by Wright inflamed racial tensions and posed an unwanted problem for Obama, front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, as he seeks to wrap up the party's nod.
More recently, racially charged remarks from the same pulpit by another pastor, the Rev. Michael Pfleger, kept the controversy alive and proved the latest thorn in Obama's side. As a guest speaker at Obama's church, Pfleger mocked Obama rival Hillary Rodham Clinton.
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393310/trump/60#post_3499173
Yet again you don't know what you are talking about, and you voted for the clown.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24908975/ns/politics-decision_08/t/obama-quits-church-after-long-controversy/#.UJF9FoYrMsw
For months, Obama has been hamstrung by the rhetoric of Wright, whose sermons blaming U.S. policies for the Sept. 11 attacks and calls of "God damn America" for its racism became fixtures on the Internet and cable news networks.
Initially, Obama said he disagreed with Wright but portrayed him as a family member he couldn't disown. The preacher had officiated at Obama's wedding, baptized his two daughters and been his spiritual mentor for some 20 years.
But six weeks after Obama's well-received speech on race, Wright claimed at the Press Club appearance that the U.S. government was capable of planting AIDS in the black community, praised Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and suggested that Obama was acting like a politician by putting his pastor at arm's length while privately agreeing with him.
The next day, Obama denounced Wright's comments as "divisive and destructive."
Remarks by Wright inflamed racial tensions and posed an unwanted problem for Obama, front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, as he seeks to wrap up the party's nod.
More recently, racially charged remarks from the same pulpit by another pastor, the Rev. Michael Pfleger, kept the controversy alive and proved the latest thorn in Obama's side. As a guest speaker at Obama's church, Pfleger mocked Obama rival Hillary Rodham Clinton.
That's from 2008. Try something in the last 4 years.
Again, do a little research on these preacher/pastor nutjobs these Tea Party/Conservatives listen to every Sunday. They'd make Wright look like a saint.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393310/trump/80#post_3499202
That's from 2008. Try something in the last 4 years.
Again, do a little research on these preacher/pastor nutjobs these Tea Party/Conservatives listen to every Sunday. They'd make Wright look like a saint.
Of course it's from 2008. That is when 0bama left his church. Wright shot his mouth off at the national press club and somewhere else and 0bama had no choice.
I don't know what preacher or pastor Tea Party people listen too. They few people I know in the movement aren't religious so you tell me.
 
darthtang aw

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That's from 2008.  Try something in the last 4 years.
Again, do a little research on these preacher/pastor nutjobs these Tea Party/Conservatives listen to every Sunday.  They'd make Wright look like a saint.
Proof positive you have no clue what you are talking about now. I didn't know there was a tea party pastor.
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/393310/trump/80#post_3499215
Proof positive you have no clue what you are talking about now. I didn't know there was a tea party pastor.
You can't be that obtuse. The Tea Baggers and Conservatives reek of Southern Baptist/Evangelical values. You're telling me you've never listened to some of these preacher's? Where do you think morons like Akin and Mourdock get these idiotic ideas from?
 
darthtang aw

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You can't be that obtuse.  The Tea Baggers and Conservatives reek of Southern Baptist/Evangelical values.  You're telling me you've never listened to some of these preacher's?  Where do you think morons like Akin and Mourdock get these idiotic ideas from?
Got a link? I know several tea party members last I checked the Catholic Church didn't sound like southern baptists. Especially the ones with old Mexico roots. But then again, your the expert on religious preachings. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
 
darthtang aw

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Yes, but they are white so it is okay.
Maybe in your state. Half the tea party membership here is brown. Most of the " preachers" are as well.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by Jerthunter http:///t/393310/trump/80#post_3499216
Yes, but they are white so it is okay.
Maybe if 90 percent of blacks weren't supporting the black president who opposes fiscally responsible principles the Tea Party supports there would be more blacks in the Tea Party.
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/393310/trump/80#post_3499236
Got a link? I know several tea party members last I checked the Catholic Church didn't sound like southern baptists. Especially the ones with old Mexico roots. But then again, your the expert on religious preachings. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
Guess you've never perused Texas, Alabama, Misssissippi, South Carolina, Kentucky, and Virginia. There's more Bible Thumpin' Baptist's and Evangelical's in Texas than there are Catholics, even with our heavy Hispanic population. Why do you think we've been a Red State since Nixon? Why do you think there are dry counties surrounding the Dallas area? Oh yeah, Catholics would definity support banning alcohol within ther townships.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393310/trump/80#post_3499246
Guess you've never perused Texas, Alabama, Misssissippi, South Carolina, Kentucky, and Virginia. There's more Bible Thumpin' Baptist's and Evangelical's in Texas than there are Catholics, even with our heavy Hispanic population. Why do you think we've been a Red State since Nixon? Why do you think there are dry counties surrounding the Dallas area? Oh yeah, Catholics would definity support banning alcohol within ther townships.

Catholic is still the largest denomination.
 
bionicarm

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Texas is a part of the strongly socially conservative, pastored by T.D Jakes and Prestonwood Baptist pastored by Jack Graham. Houston is home to the largest church in the nation, Lakewood Church, pastored by Joel Osteen. Lubbock, Texas has the most churches per capita in the nation.[sup][11][/sup]
In 2000, the religious demographics of Texas were:[12][/sup]
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393310/trump/80#post_3499249
Catholic is still the largest denomination.
 
reefraff

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Read it and weep


Texas Largest Religious Bodies




Religious Body



Adherents



Percent ot Population







2010







2000







1. Catholic Church



4,673,500



18.59







20.95







2. Southern Baptist Convention



3,722,194



14.80







16.88







3. Non-Denominational Christian



1,546,542



6.15







—







4. United Methodist Church



1,122,736



4.46







4.90







5. Muslim estimate



421,972



1.68







0.55





6. Church of Christ



351,129

width="47">
1.40






1.81





7. LDS (Mormons)



296,141



1.18







0.75







8. Assembly of God



275,565



1.10







1.09







9. Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)



155,046



0.62







0.86







10. Episcopal Church



148,439



0.59







0.85







11. Lutheran–Missouri Synod



132,508



0.53







0.67







12. Lutheran–E.L.C.A.



111,647



0.44







0.74





























Unclaimed by any faith



10,103,455



40.18

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38.25

http://www.texasalmanac.com/topics/religion/religious-affiliation-texas
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Read it and weep
 
                                                                                           Texas Largest Religious Bodies

Religious Body


Adherents


Percent ot Population


2010


 


2000


1. Catholic Church


4,673,500


18.59


 


20.95


2. Southern Baptist Convention


3,722,194


14.80


 


16.88


3. Non-Denominational Christian


1,546,542


6.15


 


—


4. United Methodist Church


1,122,736


4.46


 


4.90


5. Muslim estimate


421,972


1.68


 


0.55


6. Church of Christ


351,129


1.40

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1.81


7. LDS (Mormons)


296,141


1.18


 


0.75


8. Assembly of God


275,565


1.10


 


1.09


9. Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)


155,046


0.62


 


0.86


10. Episcopal Church


148,439


0.59


 


0.85


11. Lutheran–Missouri Synod


132,508


0.53


 


0.67


12. Lutheran–E.L.C.A.


111,647


0.44


 


0.74


 


 


 


 


 


Unclaimed by any faith


10,103,455


40.18


 


38.25

http://www.texasalmanac.com/topics/religion/religious-affiliation-texas
That is what happens when one uses just wikipedia to back up their claim. especially a wikipedia article with no source backing up their claim.
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/393310/trump/80#post_3499282
That is what happens when one uses just wikipedia to back up their claim. especially a wikipedia article with no source backing up their claim.
That's what the footnotes are for. Most ignornat people don't understand what those are.
The fallacy behind those numbers is that many of the other "religions" besides Catholic cross over and essentially follow the same principles. Non-Denomination simply means they don't know who they are, and exactly which "major" religion to follow. You can lump them in with the Baptist's, the Episcopalian's, and even the Church Of Christ bunch.
The Lutherans are actually a somewhat off-shoot of the Catholic's. I've been to quite a few Lutheran weddings, and many of their teachings followed what I learned growing up Catholic. Some say Methodist are very similar to Lutheran, and Southern Baptist somewhat follow Presbyterian tenets. That's what so screwed up with religion in the first place. You have all these tangents and variants of religious sects, when in the long-run they base their beliefs on the same book. Here's you a interesting comparison chart you can reference (amazing it's not from Wiki).
http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/charts/denominations_beliefs.htm
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393310/trump/80#post_3499284
That's what the footnotes are for. Most ignornat people don't understand what those are.
The fallacy behind those numbers is that many of the other "religions" besides Catholic cross over and essentially follow the same principles. Non-Denomination simply means they don't know who they are, and exactly which "major" religion to follow. You can lump them in with the Baptist's, the Episcopalian's, and even the Church Of Christ bunch.
The Lutherans are actually a somewhat off-shoot of the Catholic's. I've been to quite a few Lutheran weddings, and many of their teachings followed what I learned growing up Catholic. Some say Methodist are very similar to Lutheran, and Southern Baptist somewhat follow Presbyterian tenets. That's what so screwed up with religion in the first place. You have all these tangents and variants of religious sects, when in the long-run they base their beliefs on the same book. Here's you a interesting comparison chart you can reference (amazing it's not from Wiki).
http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/charts/denominations_beliefs.htm
Which is the biggest denomination again? Repeat after me CATHOLIC LOL! I've known several Church of Christ folk and they were nothing like Southern Baptist which all my Mom's Democrat family members belong to. Assemblies of God and some Episcopalians I can buy. My wife was Raised Lutheran and yes, kind of the redheaded step child of the Catholics.
 
darthtang aw

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My parents are non-denominational. They are nothing like Baptist's, the Episcopalian's, and Church Of Christ. Have you ever sat in a Non denominational?
 
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