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nemo_66
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dont flame me on this, or take it the wrong way BUT, if you've been feeding it for 10 months, and your rays have tripled in size, then way in any way are you worried that it might be bad?
meowzer
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Originally Posted by Nemo_66
http:///forum/post/3110703
dont flame me on this, or take it the wrong way BUT, if you've been feeding it for 10 months, and your rays have tripled in size, then way in any way are you worried that it might be bad?
I wasn't.....until it was brought up that it can be.....so I would like to be 100% sure that what I am feeding her is good....I know the silversides and scallops have NO additives at all....
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3110710
That's not really the only indication of health... looking good. What if it were damaging kidneys from the extra processing etc etc and you were shortening the actually total years you would have gotten with him?
IDK can it be....
...I am hoping not, and I am waiting for your research
http:///forum/post/3110703
dont flame me on this, or take it the wrong way BUT, if you've been feeding it for 10 months, and your rays have tripled in size, then way in any way are you worried that it might be bad?
I wasn't.....until it was brought up that it can be.....so I would like to be 100% sure that what I am feeding her is good....I know the silversides and scallops have NO additives at all....
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3110710
That's not really the only indication of health... looking good. What if it were damaging kidneys from the extra processing etc etc and you were shortening the actually total years you would have gotten with him?
IDK can it be....
cranberry
Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3110715
I wasn't.....until it was brought up that it can be.....so I would like to be 100% sure that what I am feeding her is good....I know the silversides and scallops have NO additives at all....
IDK can it be....
...I am hoping not, and I am waiting for your research
I have zero idea... still looking and waiting for some feedback.
http:///forum/post/3110715
I wasn't.....until it was brought up that it can be.....so I would like to be 100% sure that what I am feeding her is good....I know the silversides and scallops have NO additives at all....
IDK can it be....
I have zero idea... still looking and waiting for some feedback.
meowzer
Moderator
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3110718
I have zero idea... still looking and waiting for some feedback.
Thanks
http:///forum/post/3110718
I have zero idea... still looking and waiting for some feedback.
Thanks
tank a holic
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Originally Posted by Nemo_66
http:///forum/post/3110703
dont flame me on this, or take it the wrong way BUT, if you've been feeding it for 10 months, and your rays have tripled in size, then way in any way are you worried that it might be bad?
its like feeding goldfish to a lionfish
you can do it, and they'll grow but its not healthy for them
by the time you find out there's damage its too late, thats why she's worried
http:///forum/post/3110703
dont flame me on this, or take it the wrong way BUT, if you've been feeding it for 10 months, and your rays have tripled in size, then way in any way are you worried that it might be bad?
its like feeding goldfish to a lionfish
you can do it, and they'll grow but its not healthy for them
by the time you find out there's damage its too late, thats why she's worried
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nemo_66
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ok, gotcha. good luck finding the answer.
cranberry
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K, my Nutrition Nazi got back to me and said this....
"Renee,
Tell them to get rid of it, never use it.
Salt will act as a preservative, and a good one, sort of, but, it dehydrates the food.
Fish have a hard time with this, and it will affect the kidneys, they drink salt water, and excrete it thru the gills and urine, adding more salt is bad.
The lovely long chain fatty acids will still break down at the same speed, but the water reduction will hold the fish from smelling for a long period, but its nutritionally unsound.
All in all, give it the flick."
Now, that's enough for me because I trust his expertise in this area, but I will continue to look into some studies to come of with more info for y'all.
If anyone else comes across some interesting reading, post it up!
"Renee,
Tell them to get rid of it, never use it.
Salt will act as a preservative, and a good one, sort of, but, it dehydrates the food.
Fish have a hard time with this, and it will affect the kidneys, they drink salt water, and excrete it thru the gills and urine, adding more salt is bad.
The lovely long chain fatty acids will still break down at the same speed, but the water reduction will hold the fish from smelling for a long period, but its nutritionally unsound.
All in all, give it the flick."
Now, that's enough for me because I trust his expertise in this area, but I will continue to look into some studies to come of with more info for y'all.
If anyone else comes across some interesting reading, post it up!
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shrimpy brains
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Love your avatar btw!
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nihoa
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a note on the scallops, they dont freeze well and are coated with freeze guard (sodium tripolyphosphate) prior to bagging and freezing. i dont know what freeze guard may do to livestock but i havent taken the chance either.
i guess i should be considering myself lucky that scallop, shrimp, clam, quahog, mussels and squid are all available at our market year round.
i guess i should be considering myself lucky that scallop, shrimp, clam, quahog, mussels and squid are all available at our market year round.
meowzer
Moderator
Originally Posted by Nihoa
http:///forum/post/3112348
a note on the scallops, they dont freeze well and are coated with freeze guard (sodium tripolyphosphate) prior to bagging and freezing. i dont know what freeze guard may do to livestock but i havent taken the chance either.
i guess i should be considering myself lucky that scallop, shrimp, clam, quahog, mussels and squid are all available at our market year round.
Wouldn't they have to list that in the ingredients????
http:///forum/post/3112348
a note on the scallops, they dont freeze well and are coated with freeze guard (sodium tripolyphosphate) prior to bagging and freezing. i dont know what freeze guard may do to livestock but i havent taken the chance either.
i guess i should be considering myself lucky that scallop, shrimp, clam, quahog, mussels and squid are all available at our market year round.
Wouldn't they have to list that in the ingredients????
cranberry
Active Member
Originally Posted by outsdr2
http:///forum/post/3112309
Hi everyone. I go to the bait shop and buy live shrimp. I bring this up because someone had mentioned shelling. I add the whole shrimp to the tank. Is this an ok method? thanks and sorry for the hijack in advance.
Most definitely. I add the shell to every feed. I'm taking a bunch of them, grinding them up and putting them in my getalin vitamin.
The problem with freezing these things are the amount and type of fat in them. Fat doesn't freeze at the same temperatures as the flesh itself.... it doesn't freeze at the temperatures our deep freezers get.... that's why it's important to know how long these things have been frozen for and why it is best to toss them after they have been in that state for awhile. Covering them with water and flash freezing them as shown to be beneficial at extending their shelp/freezer life.
The preservatives should be listed on the bag itself.
http:///forum/post/3112309
Hi everyone. I go to the bait shop and buy live shrimp. I bring this up because someone had mentioned shelling. I add the whole shrimp to the tank. Is this an ok method? thanks and sorry for the hijack in advance.
Most definitely. I add the shell to every feed. I'm taking a bunch of them, grinding them up and putting them in my getalin vitamin.
The problem with freezing these things are the amount and type of fat in them. Fat doesn't freeze at the same temperatures as the flesh itself.... it doesn't freeze at the temperatures our deep freezers get.... that's why it's important to know how long these things have been frozen for and why it is best to toss them after they have been in that state for awhile. Covering them with water and flash freezing them as shown to be beneficial at extending their shelp/freezer life.
The preservatives should be listed on the bag itself.
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nihoa
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i dont really know what they have to list and what they dont but i certainly know the fish plant here in town will process for diff companies and put freze guard on them all. scallops dont last as long frozen as other shellfish and are treated with phosphates to trap in moisture and freeze better. i have seen frozen scallop with chemical free written on the bag and assume they are talking about this freeze guard.
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3112353
Wouldn't they have to list that in the ingredients????
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3112353
Wouldn't they have to list that in the ingredients????
meowzer
Moderator
Originally Posted by Nihoa
http:///forum/post/3112371
i dont really know what they have to list and what they dont but i certainly know the fish plant here in town will process for diff companies and put freze guard on them all. scallops dont last as long frozen as other shellfish and are treated with phosphates to trap in moisture and freeze better. i have seen frozen scallop with chemical free written on the bag and assume they are talking about this freeze guard.
IDK...it says....ingredients: Scallops
nothing else at all
http:///forum/post/3112371
i dont really know what they have to list and what they dont but i certainly know the fish plant here in town will process for diff companies and put freze guard on them all. scallops dont last as long frozen as other shellfish and are treated with phosphates to trap in moisture and freeze better. i have seen frozen scallop with chemical free written on the bag and assume they are talking about this freeze guard.
IDK...it says....ingredients: Scallops
nothing else at all
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nihoa
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i feed fresh so it really doesnt matter to me. call it bs or look into it, theyre your fish.