Upgrading my 65 gallon Reef - Sump/fuge
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al&burke
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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/383256/upgrading-my-65-gallon-reef-sump-fuge/20#post_3352617
It looks good Al....and your fish will be back before you know it....LOL....healthier too
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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///forum/thread/383256/upgrading-my-65-gallon-reef-sump-fuge/40#post_3352625
Looks good Al.....
I think the problem with the aquascape is the leather - I wish i could get it up in the rocks somehow, just thinking a little a head - maybe i need to just get rid of it although I like it. How would it do if it were up midway on the live rocks. With the new aquascale I am going to try to pin the live rock with acrylic rod, maybe I could make a flat spot somewhere - I am beginning to think these leathers are too large for this smaller tank. Thanks for the replies
Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/383256/upgrading-my-65-gallon-reef-sump-fuge/20#post_3352617
It looks good Al....and your fish will be back before you know it....LOL....healthier too
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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///forum/thread/383256/upgrading-my-65-gallon-reef-sump-fuge/40#post_3352625
Looks good Al.....
I think the problem with the aquascape is the leather - I wish i could get it up in the rocks somehow, just thinking a little a head - maybe i need to just get rid of it although I like it. How would it do if it were up midway on the live rocks. With the new aquascale I am going to try to pin the live rock with acrylic rod, maybe I could make a flat spot somewhere - I am beginning to think these leathers are too large for this smaller tank. Thanks for the replies
scott t
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I think the problem with the aquascape is the leather - I wish i could get it up in the rocks somehow, just thinking a little a head - maybe i need to just get rid of it although I like it. How would it do if it were up midway on the live rocks. With the new aquascale I am going to try to pin the live rock with acrylic rod, maybe I could make a flat spot somewhere - I am beginning to think these leathers are too large for this smaller tank. Thanks for the replies
Al maybe the leather is telling you that you need to get a bigger tank.. LOl.. It is a very nice leather, I dont think you should get rid of it maybe rework the aquascape as you have said and see if there is a nice place you can put it...
I think the problem with the aquascape is the leather - I wish i could get it up in the rocks somehow, just thinking a little a head - maybe i need to just get rid of it although I like it. How would it do if it were up midway on the live rocks. With the new aquascale I am going to try to pin the live rock with acrylic rod, maybe I could make a flat spot somewhere - I am beginning to think these leathers are too large for this smaller tank. Thanks for the replies
Al maybe the leather is telling you that you need to get a bigger tank.. LOl.. It is a very nice leather, I dont think you should get rid of it maybe rework the aquascape as you have said and see if there is a nice place you can put it...
al&burke
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Originally Posted by Scott T http:///forum/thread/383256/upgrading-my-65-gallon-reef-sump-fuge/40#post_3352745
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I think the problem with the aquascape is the leather - I wish i could get it up in the rocks somehow, just thinking a little a head - maybe i need to just get rid of it although I like it. How would it do if it were up midway on the live rocks. With the new aquascale I am going to try to pin the live rock with acrylic rod, maybe I could make a flat spot somewhere - I am beginning to think these leathers are too large for this smaller tank. Thanks for the replies
Al maybe the leather is telling you that you need to get a bigger tank.. LOl.. It is a very nice leather, I dont think you should get rid of it maybe rework the aquascape as you have said and see if there is a nice place you can put it...
I know - I almost want to go and buy a 120 - you read my mind my friend, if i go to the LFS today might be trouble
Originally Posted by Scott T http:///forum/thread/383256/upgrading-my-65-gallon-reef-sump-fuge/40#post_3352745
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I think the problem with the aquascape is the leather - I wish i could get it up in the rocks somehow, just thinking a little a head - maybe i need to just get rid of it although I like it. How would it do if it were up midway on the live rocks. With the new aquascale I am going to try to pin the live rock with acrylic rod, maybe I could make a flat spot somewhere - I am beginning to think these leathers are too large for this smaller tank. Thanks for the replies
Al maybe the leather is telling you that you need to get a bigger tank.. LOl.. It is a very nice leather, I dont think you should get rid of it maybe rework the aquascape as you have said and see if there is a nice place you can put it...
I know - I almost want to go and buy a 120 - you read my mind my friend, if i go to the LFS today might be trouble
scott t
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Originally Posted by Al&Burke http:///forum/thread/383256/upgrading-my-65-gallon-reef-sump-fuge/40#post_3352760
TANGS
Thats what I am talking about.. Tangs are such beautiful fish.. I cant wait to get this tank up and running so I can get my tang after all the other fish are added..
Originally Posted by Al&Burke http:///forum/thread/383256/upgrading-my-65-gallon-reef-sump-fuge/40#post_3352760
TANGS
scott t
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Originally Posted by Al&Burke http:///forum/thread/383256/upgrading-my-65-gallon-reef-sump-fuge/40#post_3352763
I would love to do a 3' x 3' x 2' tank I could still use my 36" T5HO lights, but 1 problem - I might be moving in the next 6 months - do I want to set something up like that just to take it down.
that would be an awesome tank, but yeah if you are moving then maybe you should wait until the move to do a bigger tank so you wont have to move it
Originally Posted by Al&Burke http:///forum/thread/383256/upgrading-my-65-gallon-reef-sump-fuge/40#post_3352763
I would love to do a 3' x 3' x 2' tank I could still use my 36" T5HO lights, but 1 problem - I might be moving in the next 6 months - do I want to set something up like that just to take it down.
that would be an awesome tank, but yeah if you are moving then maybe you should wait until the move to do a bigger tank so you wont have to move it
al&burke
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Thanks Scott, I ordered my glass for the fuge I am building for the 65 upgrade, this afternoon i am going to get some lumber and build the additional stand I need next to my 65. The way the stand sits now I don't have enough height below it (newbie mistake when I was building it) so I am going to build next to it with enough height. So the fuge will be a display and the sump/return will be below - complete with an ATS.
al&burke
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Well I have been busy with other stuff but I have been thinking about the whole system - the part that has me worried is the drains from the DT to the fuge and the sump. I am going to run 1" pvc to the sump - I was thinking of teeing off the fuge feed to 3/4" or 1/2" to lower the flow (what do you all think of this). I was hoping not to put any valves in the drain lines, to prevent anything blocking it. I am planning on a backup from the DT - I have learned from my FW planted set-up and has saved me a couple of times.
Now my next concern is the line feeding the fuge - I was planning on building a spray bar - but I am woried if anything comes down the drain from the DT it will get stuck here - maybe I could put a tee at the end the the supply to the fuge.
And finally the ATS - I am thinking of using a separate pump for this - it will be taking water from the sump. Again I don't want anything that may plug the main drain from the DT.
The fuge is going to be made from glass 18.5 x 18.5 x 20 high.
Any comments would be greatly appreciated - thanks for looking.
Now my next concern is the line feeding the fuge - I was planning on building a spray bar - but I am woried if anything comes down the drain from the DT it will get stuck here - maybe I could put a tee at the end the the supply to the fuge.
And finally the ATS - I am thinking of using a separate pump for this - it will be taking water from the sump. Again I don't want anything that may plug the main drain from the DT.
The fuge is going to be made from glass 18.5 x 18.5 x 20 high.
Any comments would be greatly appreciated - thanks for looking.
acrylic51
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Al is it to late to bump the bulhead size to 1 1/4" or 1 1/2"? I wouldn't be super concerned with blockages and with the backup in place I think your safe. You could use suction screens to prevent anything from actually getting inside the bulkhead and wedged into pipe work IMO.
As far as reducing the pipe size to the Fuge, not to keen on that. By reducing flow that way you would be increasing the velocity of the water exiting the smaller diameter pipe, and think it would create issues.
As far as reducing the pipe size to the Fuge, not to keen on that. By reducing flow that way you would be increasing the velocity of the water exiting the smaller diameter pipe, and think it would create issues.
al&burke
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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///forum/thread/383256/upgrading-my-65-gallon-reef-sump-fuge/40#post_3354233
Al is it to late to bump the bulhead size to 1 1/4" or 1 1/2"? I wouldn't be super concerned with blockages and with the backup in place I think your safe. You could use suction screens to prevent anything from actually getting inside the bulkhead and wedged into pipe work IMO.
As far as reducing the pipe size to the Fuge, not to keen on that. By reducing flow that way you would be increasing the velocity of the water exiting the smaller diameter pipe, and think it would create issues.
I haven't drilled it yet - still in the planning stage - how would I control the amount of flow to the fuge without a valve on the line - or am I being over protective.
Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///forum/thread/383256/upgrading-my-65-gallon-reef-sump-fuge/40#post_3354233
Al is it to late to bump the bulhead size to 1 1/4" or 1 1/2"? I wouldn't be super concerned with blockages and with the backup in place I think your safe. You could use suction screens to prevent anything from actually getting inside the bulkhead and wedged into pipe work IMO.
As far as reducing the pipe size to the Fuge, not to keen on that. By reducing flow that way you would be increasing the velocity of the water exiting the smaller diameter pipe, and think it would create issues.
I haven't drilled it yet - still in the planning stage - how would I control the amount of flow to the fuge without a valve on the line - or am I being over protective.
acrylic51
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I think your worrying a not much. There are ways you can prevent things from entering your lines..... Plus you have the backup line in place. I would drill the primary bulkhead bigger than the backup. JMHO!!!
As far as putting a valve on the drain line, I think we are over complicating things. This method is done all the time will no bad affects. Again there is a backup in place, an theoretically your not restricting the drain line; you are merely altering the flow pattern. That is why I suggest with you concern to drill bigger than 1". Worse case scenario why couldn't you drill 2 drains and a backup?? You could leave 1 line straight to the sump, the other to the sump and "valve it", and the 3rd as your backup???!
As far as putting a valve on the drain line, I think we are over complicating things. This method is done all the time will no bad affects. Again there is a backup in place, an theoretically your not restricting the drain line; you are merely altering the flow pattern. That is why I suggest with you concern to drill bigger than 1". Worse case scenario why couldn't you drill 2 drains and a backup?? You could leave 1 line straight to the sump, the other to the sump and "valve it", and the 3rd as your backup???!
al&burke
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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///forum/thread/383256/upgrading-my-65-gallon-reef-sump-fuge/40#post_3354267
I think your worrying a not much. There are ways you can prevent things from entering your lines..... Plus you have the backup line in place. I would drill the primary bulkhead bigger than the backup. JMHO!!!
As far as putting a valve on the drain line, I think we are over complicating things. This method is done all the time will no bad affects. Again there is a backup in place, an theoretically your not restricting the drain line; you are merely altering the flow pattern. That is why I suggest with you concern to drill bigger than 1". Worse case scenario why couldn't you drill 2 drains and a backup?? You could leave 1 line straight to the sump, the other to the sump and "valve it", and the 3rd as your backup???!
Shawn, why 1-1/4" or 1-1/2" if I only have max flow 500 GPH - just currious.
Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///forum/thread/383256/upgrading-my-65-gallon-reef-sump-fuge/40#post_3354267
I think your worrying a not much. There are ways you can prevent things from entering your lines..... Plus you have the backup line in place. I would drill the primary bulkhead bigger than the backup. JMHO!!!
As far as putting a valve on the drain line, I think we are over complicating things. This method is done all the time will no bad affects. Again there is a backup in place, an theoretically your not restricting the drain line; you are merely altering the flow pattern. That is why I suggest with you concern to drill bigger than 1". Worse case scenario why couldn't you drill 2 drains and a backup?? You could leave 1 line straight to the sump, the other to the sump and "valve it", and the 3rd as your backup???!
Shawn, why 1-1/4" or 1-1/2" if I only have max flow 500 GPH - just currious.
