US Navy Directive 16134
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veni vidi vici
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Originally Posted by Jerthunter
We are talking about a small level respect that requires no effort that will prevent damage to ones co-workers and friends.
And i would leave that up to the ones who are affected to decide.
We are talking about a small level respect that requires no effort that will prevent damage to ones co-workers and friends.
And i would leave that up to the ones who are affected to decide.
veni vidi vici
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Originally Posted by Jerthunter
I sure hope you do not believe this. Genocide is a truely awful thing...
This isn't genocide its war with insurgents and or terrorists
I sure hope you do not believe this. Genocide is a truely awful thing...
This isn't genocide its war with insurgents and or terrorists
jerthunter
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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
And i would leave that up to the ones who are affected to decide.
I have found myself affected by many things during my time in service to the country, from awful things like war, to the unnecessary pain caused by a fellow American behaving in a disgusting manner that resulted in restrictions being placed on my life. War is awful, it truely is, but it can be argued to be necessary. Pointless rudeness is never necessary and it only ends up hurting oneself and ones friends and co-workers.
And i would leave that up to the ones who are affected to decide.
I have found myself affected by many things during my time in service to the country, from awful things like war, to the unnecessary pain caused by a fellow American behaving in a disgusting manner that resulted in restrictions being placed on my life. War is awful, it truely is, but it can be argued to be necessary. Pointless rudeness is never necessary and it only ends up hurting oneself and ones friends and co-workers.
jerthunter
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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
Sniff,Sniff it smells like victory as soon as we wipe out the Irainians,Syrians,and all the rest of the arabs and persians who have infiltrated iraq to fight "THE GREAT SATAN."
You are talking about wiping out whole countries, entire populations of people. That sure sounds like genocide to me.
Sniff,Sniff it smells like victory as soon as we wipe out the Irainians,Syrians,and all the rest of the arabs and persians who have infiltrated iraq to fight "THE GREAT SATAN."
You are talking about wiping out whole countries, entire populations of people. That sure sounds like genocide to me.
veni vidi vici
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Originally Posted by Jmick
Agreed, just ask the Jews, Native Americans and the Irish...thankfully 2 of the 3 have bounced back.
Don't change the subject.Thats a different post and ill be happy to go back there with you and discuss it if you like.
Agreed, just ask the Jews, Native Americans and the Irish...thankfully 2 of the 3 have bounced back.
Don't change the subject.Thats a different post and ill be happy to go back there with you and discuss it if you like.
veni vidi vici
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Originally Posted by Jmick
I thought you were of the opinion that they were all terrorists and insurgents and needed to be dealt with accordingly?
I guess you thought wrong again.Hurting ones feelings and ending a life are two different things.
I thought you were of the opinion that they were all terrorists and insurgents and needed to be dealt with accordingly?
I guess you thought wrong again.Hurting ones feelings and ending a life are two different things.
veni vidi vici
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Originally Posted by Jerthunter
You are talking about wiping out whole countries, entire populations of people. That sure sounds like genocide to me.
The key word was "INFILTRARORS"
You are talking about wiping out whole countries, entire populations of people. That sure sounds like genocide to me.
The key word was "INFILTRARORS"
veni vidi vici
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Jmick said:Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
I have never stated everyone in the Middle East is our enemy,i would say a majority of the Middle East is.QUOTE]
Thanks!
Your welcome
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by Jerthunter
I sure hope you do not believe this. Genocide is a truely awful thing...
Someone needs to remind Iran's President of this; Seeing as how again today he called for the destruction of Israel.
That said, I agree with some of the folks normally I do not. Wearing shirts, with messages in arabic, with insulting messages while in their country, is goofy.
I sure hope you do not believe this. Genocide is a truely awful thing...
Someone needs to remind Iran's President of this; Seeing as how again today he called for the destruction of Israel.
That said, I agree with some of the folks normally I do not. Wearing shirts, with messages in arabic, with insulting messages while in their country, is goofy.
jerthunter
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I will make one final response here. I cannot continue in a conversation where people are going to say one thing and then argue semantics when confronted with their own statements.
Sure there are bad people out there, that does not justify acting in a manner that hurts someone needlessly. You can have your debates about if war is needed, who should we fight against. I will not take part in that conversation. However there is a huge difference in saying, "we should fight because ______ (you fill it in)" and "We should let the people who are representing us in foreign countries to behave in a way that undermines our strategy."
That is all for me here, have fun calling me a left-wing crybaby.
Sure there are bad people out there, that does not justify acting in a manner that hurts someone needlessly. You can have your debates about if war is needed, who should we fight against. I will not take part in that conversation. However there is a huge difference in saying, "we should fight because ______ (you fill it in)" and "We should let the people who are representing us in foreign countries to behave in a way that undermines our strategy."
That is all for me here, have fun calling me a left-wing crybaby.
veni vidi vici
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Jmick said:
veni vidi vici
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Originally Posted by Jerthunter
I will make one final response here. I cannot continue in a conversation where people are going to say one thing and then argue semantics when confronted with their own statements.
Sure there are bad people out there, that does not justify acting in a manner that hurts someone needlessly. You can have your debates about if war is needed, who should we fight against. I will not take part in that conversation. However there is a huge difference in saying, "we should fight because ______ (you fill it in)" and "We should let the people who are representing us in foreign countries to behave in a way that undermines our strategy."
That is all for me here, have fun calling me a left-wing crybaby.
In a nut shell we are arguing War and the way it is waged ,we have different opinions on what it is and how it should be fought .Thanks for the interesting debate.
Oh and don't forget your pin.
I will make one final response here. I cannot continue in a conversation where people are going to say one thing and then argue semantics when confronted with their own statements.
Sure there are bad people out there, that does not justify acting in a manner that hurts someone needlessly. You can have your debates about if war is needed, who should we fight against. I will not take part in that conversation. However there is a huge difference in saying, "we should fight because ______ (you fill it in)" and "We should let the people who are representing us in foreign countries to behave in a way that undermines our strategy."
That is all for me here, have fun calling me a left-wing crybaby.
In a nut shell we are arguing War and the way it is waged ,we have different opinions on what it is and how it should be fought .Thanks for the interesting debate.
Oh and don't forget your pin.
jmick
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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
In a nut shell we are arguing War and the way it is waged ,we have different opinions on what it is and how it should be fought .Thanks for the interesting debate.
Oh and don't forget your pin.
This has nothing to do with the way war is waged! It's about offensive shirts and if you think they need these shirts for motivation of some sort then we have the wrong people over there or you think very little of them, not sure which? Also, I don't understand why you are bringing politics into this? This has nothing to do with Republican or Democrats, it's about common sense and reigning in the dopes who make our troops look like a bunch of eejits.
In a nut shell we are arguing War and the way it is waged ,we have different opinions on what it is and how it should be fought .Thanks for the interesting debate.
Oh and don't forget your pin.
This has nothing to do with the way war is waged! It's about offensive shirts and if you think they need these shirts for motivation of some sort then we have the wrong people over there or you think very little of them, not sure which? Also, I don't understand why you are bringing politics into this? This has nothing to do with Republican or Democrats, it's about common sense and reigning in the dopes who make our troops look like a bunch of eejits.
jerthunter
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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
In a nut shell we are arguing War and the way it is waged ,we have different opinions on what it is and how it should be fought .Thanks for the interesting debate.
Oh and don't forget your pin.
I was not planning on responding anymore but I figure I should try to clear up a misunderstanding. I am NOT arguing War or the wat it is waged, in a nutshell or out of a nutshell. I am saying that there are two seperate things, there is war, which I choose to not discuss, and there are stupid people who do not know how to behave and hurt themselves, their co-workers, and their country as a whole. I know of no war that is waged by wearing offensive t-shirts so I do not understand how you can claim that I am arguing about war and the way it is waged.
And sure, I'm a crybaby left winger, but I am in no way a democrat.
In a nut shell we are arguing War and the way it is waged ,we have different opinions on what it is and how it should be fought .Thanks for the interesting debate.
Oh and don't forget your pin.
I was not planning on responding anymore but I figure I should try to clear up a misunderstanding. I am NOT arguing War or the wat it is waged, in a nutshell or out of a nutshell. I am saying that there are two seperate things, there is war, which I choose to not discuss, and there are stupid people who do not know how to behave and hurt themselves, their co-workers, and their country as a whole. I know of no war that is waged by wearing offensive t-shirts so I do not understand how you can claim that I am arguing about war and the way it is waged.
And sure, I'm a crybaby left winger, but I am in no way a democrat.